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deleonism

fluttersky said:
Regardless, Britain or the USA (not sure which is more plausible) had control of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern as part of their occupation zone in Germany, and then decided to let the Polish government-in-exile establish an independent Polish state there.
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But... there were no Poles there*. There had never been Poles there, and it had never been part of a Polish state. They would have had to kick out the entire population of Germans and completely repopulate with Polish exiles and refugees, with the Iron Curtain between them and Poland proper to boot. Sorry, I'm just having a really hard time stomaching that.

*in any significant number, other than as internal migrants, and especially not after the Nazis.
 

BryanIII

Quick teaser for my Map which has been delayed but is very imminent... Let the guessing begin!!
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fashbasher

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secondmoonofuranus said:
But... there were no Poles there*. There had never been Poles there, and it had never been part of a Polish state. They would have had to kick out the entire population of Germans and completely repopulate with Polish exiles and refugees, with the Iron Curtain between them and Poland proper to boot. Sorry, I'm just having a really hard time stomaching that.

*in any significant number, other than as internal migrants, and especially not after the Nazis.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polabian_Slavs

Poles, no, but in the Middle Ages there was a Slavic tribe there. Just a technical quibble.
 
fluttersky

fluttersky

secondmoonofuranus said:
But... there were no Poles there*. There had never been Poles there, and it had never been part of a Polish state. They would have had to kick out the entire population of Germans and completely repopulate with Polish exiles and refugees, with the Iron Curtain between them and Poland proper to boot. Sorry, I'm just having a really hard time stomaching that.
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Yeah, it's not a nice scenario. But you can't really avoid massive amounts of ethnic cleansing when it comes to World War 2 and its aftermath :(

As for the Iron Curtain, if I understand it correctly, it didn't fully emerge until around 1960 IOTL. In the mess of the post-war years, it's quite possible that millions of anti-Communist Poles could, and would, flock to this new state.

After all, a similar thing happened IOTL, with the Germans from east of the Oder-Neisse Line fleeing to West Germany.

secondmoonofuranus said:
Okay, but, like you said, still not Poles.
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There weren't any Poles in most of Silesia either. Didn't stop Poland annexing the area and expelling the Germans there IOTL.
 

CourageousLife

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Hey, I'm working on a new map and need some feedback. Basic premise that the San Andreas fault is more active in prehistory, resulting in the 'Isles of California'. They are claimed by Spain, then Mexico, then the United States after the Mexican-American War. The part I'm stuck on is if and how they would enter the Union - as one state, or several, or not at all? Comments and feedback would be greatly appreciated. Also, the names of the islands are either their OTL names or a temporary name I came up with on the spot. They are subject to heavy editing.
 

GeneralInTheShell

theman7777 said:
One more thing, and I'm not sure if this was intentional or not, but in 1878 coastal Gabon and Senegal were under French rule, and the British had a significant portion of the Ghanaian coast under their control. Here is a helpful map:
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Thanks for the map as it will prove helpful in the future, and I'll fix Gabon and Ghanna, but the absence of the French in Senegal and the British from Sierra Leon has to do with the massive Tsunami that in the original book was created by a large comet fragment striking the Atlantic.
 

GeneralInTheShell

HatKirby said:
What parts of the map are still incomplete?
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Bits of sub Saharan Africa like expanding on German Angola and creating a few other European exile states that aren't on the same level as France of Britian. Also adding more outposts of civilization in the lands where it isn't snowing year round but instead just snows most of the time. I'm thinking of adding a few Exodus Black Republics in the lands to the north of the United States. Then there is the matter of what Italy looks like after the communist revolution I have planned for it. I'm still unsure if I want just the edges of Italy to be consumed while a communist core survives or whether it will slightly more like the book where Italy is completely consumed, only in this case it wouldn't be by France and the Caliphate but by France and Austria.
 

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How does communism exist before the industrial revoltion? How did Spain survive, I think it should be gone along side Portugal. Good story though. Also how's central America and Chilea.
 
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