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They'd have to be, Europe isn't that rich in easily accessible oil - how come? Are we talking some sort of technological retrogression/stasis, with everything still running on coal?
There is indeed regression on many fronts, and just government control obsessions means automobiles and such are very rare (no more autobahns). Romania and scattered North Sea Oil is enough.
 
There is indeed regression on many fronts, and just government control obsessions means automobiles and such are very rare (no more autobahns). Romania and scattered North Sea Oil is enough.

Man, the Indians are going to eat them alive.
 
Man, the Indians are going to eat them alive.
It's like a giant North Korea, but with clear racially divided slavery going on. India meanwhile is kind of like OTL, only slower to progress, with more Muslims, and no Pakistan or other nearby real threats.
 
So, this is the world _after_ the invasion?

Yes. I probably should have posted it earlier, but the darker the color, the more intensive the occupation. The lightest is practical self rule, while the darkest is martial law/practical colonization.
 
Is Japan actively hostile, or just a cold rival?

EDIT: It's my understanding that India and Pakistan genuinely hate each other.

India is the Great Enemy to Pakistan, but on the Indian side my impression is it's more "dislike" than outright hate, outside Hindu nationalist groups who make a living off Muslims-as-the-Boogeyman: and Pakistan is no match for India militarily, so there's not that much of a menace, unless nukes get involved (in which case Pakistan probably ceases to exist).
 
...Japan?
Literally thousands of kilometres between the two heartlands. Japan's out limits of interest basically end at India's borders. So a reason to remain alert and invest in R&D, but not a pressing threat.

India is the Great Enemy to Pakistan, but on the Indian side my impression is it's more "dislike" than outright hate, outside Hindu nationalist groups who make a living off Muslims-as-the-Boogeyman: and Pakistan is no match for India militarily, so there's not that much of a menace, unless nukes get involved (in which case Pakistan probably ceases to exist).
I always got the impression that it was a more recent event, they used to be more equal, but India outgrew Pakistan.
 
Literally thousands of kilometres between the two heartlands. Japan's out limits of interest basically end at India's borders. So a reason to remain alert and invest in R&D, but not a pressing threat.

They were planning to invade OTL, India was supposed to be part of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity sphere eventually...unreasonable perhaps, but reasonable is not something I'd call the Japanese of 1942. Indian support for the rump Chinese empire if nothing else is likely to make relations bad.


I always got the impression that it was a more recent event, they used to be more equal, but India outgrew Pakistan.

Well, Pakistan was probably relatively better off economically at partition, but has fallen behind substantially over the years, and lost Bangladesh and therefore half their population in 1971 (not coincidentally, the last major conflict between the two powers.)
 

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Post-industrial Runescape, I like it!
 
They were planning to invade OTL, India was supposed to be part of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity sphere eventually...unreasonable perhaps, but reasonable is not something I'd call the Japanese of 1942. Indian support for the rump Chinese empire if nothing else is likely to make relations bad.
Japan here did just have well over a million troops and the resources of Manchuria + Korea in a flash, lost all the roads in Thailand and had to retake Malaysia + Indochina, and lost the need to invade India as a way to remove the threat of the British Empire. (They did initially end up sending support for Indian guerrillas before the rump British Empire pulled out, but decided to focus on the conquest of more primitive neighbours first and deal with Brits in a later than they never got around it.)
 
Post-industrial Runescape, I like it!


Not quite post, early at most. Yes I know, but the airfield symbols could not be resisted. But it was more to illustrate the two major sea trade and transit 'nodes' in the game as well as the distribution of resources.
The little green men would be the new flax kings should they instigate banking location reforms, is what I'm saying.
 
Japan here did just have well over a million troops and the resources of Manchuria + Korea in a flash, lost all the roads in Thailand and had to retake Malaysia + Indochina, and lost the need to invade India as a way to remove the threat of the British Empire. (They did initially end up sending support for Indian guerrillas before the rump British Empire pulled out, but decided to focus on the conquest of more primitive neighbours first and deal with Brits in a later than they never got around it.)

I wasn't saying that they were going to do it right away after the ISOT, just that "heartlands thousands of miles apart" wouldn't be a big issue to the Japanese.
 
I wasn't saying that they were going to do it right away after the ISOT, just that "heartlands thousands of miles apart" wouldn't be a big issue to the Japanese.
I'd say it would be. OTL they basically pushed to the edge of their supply lines in every direction, with all land based infrastructure in Thailand gone their ability to assault Burma is massively reduced, and India was no longer a vital supply link for the Chinese resistance that needed to be dealt with. Likewise why they didn't invade Canada or Australia even though those were both roughly as vulnerable, they weren't really threats in the eyes of Tokyo without London or Washington backing them.
 
I recently found a dusty corner of my dropbox account with a few ancient maps I made when I was 16-17. I'll share them here in the order that they were made in - I don't remember what program I used for them, I honestly had forgotten all about these, I'm mostly just posting them because that Africa map burnt me out from making new maps.

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This first map is pretty simple - a map of Indo-European languages in an alternate Europe. Blue is Latin languages, Gold-Yellow is Celtic languages, Red is Germanic languages, Green is Slavic languages, Orange-Yellow is Baltic languages, Purple is Greek languages, Brown is Iranian languages, Other Purple is Armenian. It's a bit of a Latin wank, I think I probably just looked up extinct Latin languages and whacked them on there. I can see I've always had a problem with older PODs still gravitating towards certain cliches in my head - the giant slavic not-Russia for example, as well as the mega-not-France.

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I now realise the French on this map is atrocious. I think it was meant to be a reverse 100 Years War, without realising that the feudal system of England was totally different to France. I didn't do much research back then. The francified county names are kind of ridiculous.

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I think this one was just inspired by dumb fonts. I do vaguely remember the backstory, though - an Atenist Egypt, and for some reason that results in a Western Mediterranean civilisation. The Indian civilisation is, I think, based on the Indus River Valley Civilisation, and that's why it looks completely different to OTL India. It looks like it's supposed to be around 1000 BC?

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I went WAY overboard with the border languages - they're definitely all google translated. The fonts are dumb too, as usual. I'm pretty sure this is meant to be a continuing Jacobin Republic, with a comfy ring of sister republics.

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This is pretty clear - a simple map of the ancient provinces of France as 'states' in a federalist France. This must have been my first inkscape map - I had completely forgotten about this one. There are some questionable choices here - united Switzerland as a single region, Rhineland plus Limburg as a single region. The key also doesn't match up with the region labels on the map... oh well. You could see this as a precursor to that other France map I posted a while back.
 
Here's this dumb little scenario I came up with.
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After being the start of two World Wars and attempting to takeover the world, the victorious nations agree that Switzerland was too much of an nuisance to keep independent. So it was decided to partition the nation based on ethnicity. Germany got the most out of it, getting the central and much of the north of the country. France got the western part while Italy took some land from the south. The Romansh Federation (the country in white) was created to give the Romansh people their own state.

With the Swiss menace gone, peace was restored to the world and continued for generations to come.

"the Swiss menace"

x'D
 
"the Swiss menace"

x'D

No idea so silly that someone hasn't treated it seriously. In David Brin's SF novel Earth, WWIII is fought against the Swiss, and only through a Swiss General's refusal to follow orders are the Swiss leadership prevented from contaminating all of the northern hemisphere with Dr. Strangelove-type doomsday weapons in a "from hell's heart I stab at thee" maneuver.
 
No idea so silly that someone hasn't treated it seriously. In David Brin's SF novel Earth, WWIII is fought against the Swiss, and only through a Swiss General's refusal to follow orders are the Swiss leadership prevented from contaminating all of the northern hemisphere with Dr. Strangelove-type doomsday weapons in a "from hell's heart I stab at thee" maneuver.
A Swiss general? Someone hasn't researched the Swiss Army, methinks.
 
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