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Perhaps. Occupying even relatively primitive populations is not free. In the case of southern Russia, what is in this ISOT controlled by the Mongol Empire, occupiers would have to develop virgin lands.



I just took the eighteen largest states by land area, then placed them on the map according to which year they reached their height. It wasn't obviously an Axis wank from the rules alone, but once it was mapped out it was apparent. In fact the idea was to make things fairer for the older ISOTs, they would have more of their territory intact (theoretically).

If they just lost armies in China and Russia, that could even things out a little.



Could be that India develops that first nuke. Germany and Japan will probably regress technologically in their attempts to lord over their now relatively primitive neighbors. India is the one place where the population and distance makes it unlikely for either Axis power to defeat it before it gains some footing.

edit: IIRC, I picked the 18 largest empires because at that point I started getting a lot of overlap in China and Central Asia


But really, the Nazis, and Japanese are going to steamroll over most everyone over rather quickly. Best to replace Germany with 1914, and Japan with 1905.

Wait....your right in Germany and Japan has just lost millions of soldiers. Germany lost, at least, over 3 million in Russia by itself and much of it's industrial base. Japan also just lost a untold number of forces in China, Indochina, and Philippines.

Still, might be far less blood if Pre-Nazi/Pre-Militaristic Japan.
 
I actually quite want to try mapping this out for a like 50 or 100 years later scenario.

Feel free!

Still, might be far less blood if Pre-Nazi/Pre-Militaristic Japan.

They would at least engage in c. 1900 colonialism rather than c. 1940 industrial genocide.


I'm curious about what the Caucasus might look like +100 years. A lot of different empires had their edges there in the initial rules for the ISOT.
 
That would be none of them. Romance languages are spoken as lingua francas in the former colonies of Romance-speaking countries, but they're virtually always spoken as second (or third) languages.
In Angola, 39% of people speak Portuguese as a mother tongue. 71% of Angolans overall can speak Portuguese as a first or second language.

Those statistics are as of 2012, so the numbers are probably even higher now.

It's not a majority speaking a Romance language, but it's pretty close to getting there.
 
In Angola, 39% of people speak Portuguese as a mother tongue. 71% of Angolans overall can speak Portuguese as a first or second language.

Those statistics are as of 2012, so the numbers are probably even higher now.

It's not a majority speaking a Romance language, but it's pretty close to getting there.
On the one hand, that's horrifying linguistic imperialism.
On the other hand, I'm sorry to have gotten the facts wrong there, and thank you for the correction.
 
On the one hand, that's horrifying linguistic imperialism.
On the other hand, I'm sorry to have gotten the facts wrong there, and thank you for the correction.
To be fair, Angola is the exception. I understand that the current situation emerged due to a combination of the Estado Novo government of Portugal encouraging "assimilation" in the 1960s and early 1970s, and internal displacement during the Angolan Civil War (1975-1990) leading to lots of Angolans living outside the regions where their mother tongue is spoken, and thus having to use Portuguese instead. In fact, a distinct "Angolan Portuguese" dialect has developed, different to both European and Brazilian Portuguese.

In most African countries, you're right, the colonial language indeed tends to be spoken as a second language. There are two exceptions: firstly, across much of Africa, people with parents of different ethnic backgrounds often speak the colonial language natively (for example, my sister's boyfriend, who grew up in Cameroon as a native speaker of French and speaking very little of the indigenous languages, as his parents speak different languages natively and have only French in common). Secondly, there are some major African cities where there is no dominant indigenous language, and the colonial language has ended up becoming predominant and spoken natively by lots of people. Example: Libreville, Gabon (where French is dominant).

And yeah, it's sad that so many native African languages are dying out, but what can realistically be done about it?
 
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Political map of the Earth, January of 2045.
Just hours after US President Shawn Hall's inauguration to a second term, the Republic of China launched an offensive on the People's Republic, which would later include a land and naval blockade on the metropolis of Shanghai, 20 million people strong.
Both the United States and Union of Soviet Republics would quickly break through the ROC's naval blockade, while the People's Liberation Army would turn the tide on the ROC's land forces. USR President Zhirov would mediate a peace between the two Chinas, where the pro-PRC province of Sichuan was annexed by the PRC, while the island provinces of Taiwan and Hainan were also absorbed into the PRC to drastically limit the ROC's naval prowess.

(OOC: I usually only post in the alt-wikibox thread. My maps are usually just for reference while I do my writeups. Any comments/questions welcome.)
 
Isn't Mauritas also mostly French-speaking, or am I wrong about that?

Also make sure to include what few Romance colonies there are left! I do believe French Polynesia speaks French as their main language.

Also make sure you remove Malta
 
@Charlie950

Interesting map. How on Earth is Belarus of all places not part of the USSR?

The USR (Union of Soviet Republics) arose following the Governmental Crisis and attempted coup in the mid-1990s. The Soviet Communist Party knew it had to adapt to the times or falter; the answer they chose was reorganization and devolution.
In a compromise, referendums on independence for each republic were allowed. Belarus' was the only one to be approved by the people, in a 51.2% vote, as the Belarusians believed the new USR was succumbing to capitalist and neoliberal influence.
Appropriately, Belarus is the only country in Europe with a Communist majority in its legislature, though the Belarusian President knows to play nice with the Soviet government.
 
Didn't they think nukes were Jewish science and ergo false?
At the Party level. Among actual sciebtists, the contention was that there simy wasn a bomb was possible, but re1uired vastly more fissile material than availiable on tbe earth. It was just a mathemathematical error.
 
So history diverges from ours in the 1990s with the survival of the USSR into the USR but the Warsaw Pact falls? Or is it earlier?

Either way, I'd love to make a worlda version of this.

The POD is a little earlier. The earliest difference between OTL and ITTL is that FDR serves a full fourth term as President. Butterflies, etc etc, yadda yadda, and the US culturally isn't as suspicious of socialism as a whole; no Red Scare. But it's Nixon's impeachment in the 70s that leads to a wave of leftism in the US, with a brief resurgence with President Quayle in 92-96, followed by President McGovern. And with no arms race to fund, the USSR still reaches its tipping point, though a few years later, and ends with a "rebirth" of the USSR.
As for writeups, the most I have is the expositions of two characters who both become President, in addition to the wikibox posts I have in the wikibox thread, as well as a list of President from FDR up to 2101.
 
Here's this dumb little scenario I came up with.
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After being the start of two World Wars and attempting to takeover the world, the victorious nations agree that Switzerland was too much of an nuisance to keep independent. So it was decided to partition the nation based on ethnicity. Germany got the most out of it, getting the central and much of the north of the country. France got the western part while Italy took some land from the south. The Romansh Federation (the country in white) was created to give the Romansh people their own state.

With the Swiss menace gone, peace was restored to the world and continued for generations to come.
 
Man, look at all these great maps. OK: I gotta move away from WorldA's, at least in MS Paint. No time this month, but next month? I shall once again try to tackle GIMP.
I really want to see you try GIMP. You're amazing at worldbuilding, and it seems like some people connect your worldbuilding to WorldA maps. However, I really don't think that skill would be compromised if you tried to make bigger and better things, especially because I believe that sometimes WorldA can feel like a medium hard to portray some scenarios on. Right now, I look at your maps because of the scenarios and worldbuilding around them, but I feel like if you moved to make more intricate and detailed maps, your story-building wouldn't get compromised.
 
I really want to see you try GIMP. You're amazing at worldbuilding, and it seems like some people connect your worldbuilding to WorldA maps. However, I really don't think that skill would be compromised if you tried to make bigger and better things, especially because I believe that sometimes WorldA can feel like a medium hard to portray some scenarios on. Right now, I look at your maps because of the scenarios and worldbuilding around them, but I feel like if you moved to make more intricate and detailed maps, your story-building wouldn't get compromised.

This is interesting. I'm looking for a program to where I can try to make my maps look more professional. Is GIMP a good program to use?
 
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