Map Thread XV
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Wow very good work, but is there a version of this in a traditional projection?
One of the states in a fictional world I've been working on for a while. Full description is on DeviantArt.
It is not exactly an AH map, but I hope nobody will be angry if I post it here.
It is not exactly an AH map, but I hope nobody will be angry if I post it here.
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With the fall of Italian Libya in July 1941, the British were able to redeploy many forces to Singapore, which held until April 1942, allowing for the reinforcement of Burma. Italy was knocked out the war in September 1942 with a mainly British invasion of Scilly, though mainland landings only took place in June 1943, and encountering heavy German resistance turned into a long trek up through Italy.
The U-boat threat is largely neutralised by the start of 1944, due to the transfer of Short Stirling bombers to coastal command, and the convoy system.
Northern Europe was more successful, with a British Armoured division meeting up with the Soviets north of Berlin in March 1945. The honour of capturing the beast responsible for the deaths of millions fell to a small group of British commandos designated “Berlinforce” who caught him hidden in the generator room of his Berlin bunker. As recounted in the book “The Devils lair” written by David Jones
“Me, Yacht and Boney got told to guard the generator room, and make sure that no one attempted to take it out. Well, Boney said, “Go and check Jonesy, make sure no fritz is in there.” Well, I looked inside, rifle drawn, bayonet fixed. Told this engineer to get down, and saw another figure in the corner. I tell him to get out, and he shouts something in German. By now, I’m walking over, and I notice he has a handgun. I shout at him to put it down, and run at him. He drops the gun, but I still knock him over the head with the butt of my rifle. It is then that I realise this is Adolf Hitler”
The Germans unconditionally surrendered on April 12th, 1945, though a group of mainly French SS troops continued to hold out until 20th April, repelling one assault and destroying 4 Sherman tanks on the 18th, until they were completely destroyed.
In the East Asia theatre, despite the loss of Singapore, the Japanese were repelled with heavy fighting around Rangoon, Thailand was forced to withdraw from the war in August 1944, while British troops landed on Sumatra, in October 1944, in Borneo in February 1945, and Malaya and Singapore in July 1945. After nuclear bombs were dropped on the cities of Kokura, and Hiroshima, and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria, Japan surrendered on August 27th, 1945.
Domestically, Churchill was knocked out of power by Clement Atlee, who swept to power with a 75 seat majority. His key priorities are nationalisation, getting out India and restoring Britain to peacetime prosperity.
· Kyushu is under joint British/American administration. Most of the forces on the ground are American, and half the British forces are Australians and are American equipped, but who cares?
· Poland has been taken over by Communists. It has got a nice chunk of Germany, including East Prussia.
· The Soviets aren’t happy about the Americans in Czechoslovakia
· The British have a Berlin corridor.
The U-boat threat is largely neutralised by the start of 1944, due to the transfer of Short Stirling bombers to coastal command, and the convoy system.
Northern Europe was more successful, with a British Armoured division meeting up with the Soviets north of Berlin in March 1945. The honour of capturing the beast responsible for the deaths of millions fell to a small group of British commandos designated “Berlinforce” who caught him hidden in the generator room of his Berlin bunker. As recounted in the book “The Devils lair” written by David Jones
“Me, Yacht and Boney got told to guard the generator room, and make sure that no one attempted to take it out. Well, Boney said, “Go and check Jonesy, make sure no fritz is in there.” Well, I looked inside, rifle drawn, bayonet fixed. Told this engineer to get down, and saw another figure in the corner. I tell him to get out, and he shouts something in German. By now, I’m walking over, and I notice he has a handgun. I shout at him to put it down, and run at him. He drops the gun, but I still knock him over the head with the butt of my rifle. It is then that I realise this is Adolf Hitler”
The Germans unconditionally surrendered on April 12th, 1945, though a group of mainly French SS troops continued to hold out until 20th April, repelling one assault and destroying 4 Sherman tanks on the 18th, until they were completely destroyed.
In the East Asia theatre, despite the loss of Singapore, the Japanese were repelled with heavy fighting around Rangoon, Thailand was forced to withdraw from the war in August 1944, while British troops landed on Sumatra, in October 1944, in Borneo in February 1945, and Malaya and Singapore in July 1945. After nuclear bombs were dropped on the cities of Kokura, and Hiroshima, and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria, Japan surrendered on August 27th, 1945.
Domestically, Churchill was knocked out of power by Clement Atlee, who swept to power with a 75 seat majority. His key priorities are nationalisation, getting out India and restoring Britain to peacetime prosperity.
· Kyushu is under joint British/American administration. Most of the forces on the ground are American, and half the British forces are Australians and are American equipped, but who cares?
· Poland has been taken over by Communists. It has got a nice chunk of Germany, including East Prussia.
· The Soviets aren’t happy about the Americans in Czechoslovakia
· The British have a Berlin corridor.
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An alternate cold war scenario between Trumpism and Chinese Corporatism
So basically Capitalism vs. Capitalism
Ryan
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they lost it before they were even at war with Japan? i know the British have a reputation for incompetence in the pacific theatre but that's just silly.
Okay, so I had this idea, but I didn't have it very fleshed out in my mind, so I tried to build the scenario from the bottom up. It turns out, keeping track of 700 years of history in your head is just about as hard, so I've decided to do it in installments. Whenever the next part comes out is pending (like, seriously, it could be a year or something).
The Caesar* and the Khan: Part 1
*It sounds best when you pronounce it authentically, like "Kaiser"
In the year 1206, the ruthless ruler Genghis Khan united the Mongols and began a series of brutal conquests across Eurasia. When Genghis Khan died in 1227, his empire was inherited by his son Ögedei. Genghis Khan's descendants continued what he had started, forging an empire that stretched from Eastern Europe in the west to the Sea of Japan in the east, from India in the south to Siberia in the north. It was the largest land empire the world had seen up to that point. However, disputes over succession cause the First Khanate to splinter, creating the Golden Horde, the White Horde, the Ilkhanate, the Chagatai Khanate, and the Yuan Dynasty as successors.
As one might guess, this wasn't the end of the Mongols' story. Of all the successor states, Yuan China was by far the most powerful, but for decades it was not interested in war. This changed when Naranbaatar Khan ascended to the throne in 1346, shortly thereafter invading the Chagatai Khanate while it was being torn between Muslims in the west and Buddhist and shamanist Mongols in the east. Naranbaatar began a trend of centralization and military brutality, treating outlaws and rebels with no mercy and using religious minorities as scapegoats for any natural disasters that might have befallen the peasantry.
The Yuan armies also adopted gunpowder, which proved wildly successful against the Persian remnants of the Ilkhanate. By 1444, the Yuan Khanate stretched all the way into Iraq, but they were later pushed out of western Persia by the Turkomans. The entire region was devastated, and the Yuan began to assimilate what they were able to hold on to. Meanwhile, the Khanate would occasionally come into conflict with the Uzbek tribes in the northwest.
Aside from that, the 15th century was a relatively peaceful one for the Khanate, which was becoming monstrously large. This would differ from the 16th century, which began with China being plagued by Japanese piracy. In order to prevent the Khanate's economy and security from collapsing, Ganzorig Toghon Khan ordered the navy be expanded to deal with the seaborne threat. Then, one day in 1509, the Khanate's navy came across a strange vessel from a far away land -- Portugal.
While the Yuan Khanate was spending centuries trying to quench its insatiable hunger for land, Europe was lifting itself out of the Dark Ages, beginning an era of discovery, culture, and wealth in what the French would eventually call the "Rebirth" or "Renaissance". Throughout Europe, starting in Italy, artisans began emulating the style of the old Roman Empire, and European rulers started comparing themselves to Julius Caesar with titles like "Cesar", "Kaiser", and "Czar". Now, the nations of Europe were eager to trade with the Orient, and the Yuan became fascinated.
The Khanate was rejuvenated by the introduction of food crops and massive amounts of silver from the New World, and Portugal even helped the Khanate take care of its piracy problem. After occupying Japan in the 1520's, the government felt invincible, and launched a series of military operations all over Asia. In Persia, they clashed with the rising Osman Empire, which threatened to expand into their realm. In Central Asia, they launched countless attacks on the native Kazakhs, who soon evacuated their homeland and helped destabilize the Golden Horde. In India, they plowed over the handfuls of smaller kingdoms around the Indus and Ganges rivers, causing even more chaos. By 1575, the Yuan Khanate had bit off more than it could chew, and overextension began tearing the empire apart. In 1591, the Yuan dynasty finally capsized like its predecessor centuries before.
At the time, many European scholars believed that the Khanate's story was finally over. However, it wasn't going to end just yet. In fact, the real story was only beginning...
The World in 1600:
Notes:
1. The Americas and Africa look basically the same, because 1) I'm not a strong believer in butterfly effect, and 2) I'm not going to spend two hours making changes that are going to be drawn over in the next part.
2. Thanks to two Mongol invasions and countless wars on its soil, Persia has, unfortunately, been reduced to a shell. The Persian culture is still managing to survive in the western parts.
3. The orange empire in northern India is known as the Yin Empire, and has an interesting Sino-Indian culture.
4. The Kazakhs have been pushed further west, and as a result, the Russians have lost interest in trying to get to the Caspian Sea. Instead, they will probably focus more on the Black Sea, which is going to give the Ottomans some headaches.
5. China is currently under the Manchu-led Kuai Dynasty.
6. Khanate rule in Japan meant the end of individual clans, and the country is now a highly centralized shogunate.
7. The Yuan Khanate did see a brief interest in exploration in the 1500s, exploring around the Indian Ocean. However, it didn't last very long, and there isn't a lot left of their influence except for a few Chinese artifacts.
The Caesar* and the Khan: Part 1
*It sounds best when you pronounce it authentically, like "Kaiser"
In the year 1206, the ruthless ruler Genghis Khan united the Mongols and began a series of brutal conquests across Eurasia. When Genghis Khan died in 1227, his empire was inherited by his son Ögedei. Genghis Khan's descendants continued what he had started, forging an empire that stretched from Eastern Europe in the west to the Sea of Japan in the east, from India in the south to Siberia in the north. It was the largest land empire the world had seen up to that point. However, disputes over succession cause the First Khanate to splinter, creating the Golden Horde, the White Horde, the Ilkhanate, the Chagatai Khanate, and the Yuan Dynasty as successors.
As one might guess, this wasn't the end of the Mongols' story. Of all the successor states, Yuan China was by far the most powerful, but for decades it was not interested in war. This changed when Naranbaatar Khan ascended to the throne in 1346, shortly thereafter invading the Chagatai Khanate while it was being torn between Muslims in the west and Buddhist and shamanist Mongols in the east. Naranbaatar began a trend of centralization and military brutality, treating outlaws and rebels with no mercy and using religious minorities as scapegoats for any natural disasters that might have befallen the peasantry.
The Yuan armies also adopted gunpowder, which proved wildly successful against the Persian remnants of the Ilkhanate. By 1444, the Yuan Khanate stretched all the way into Iraq, but they were later pushed out of western Persia by the Turkomans. The entire region was devastated, and the Yuan began to assimilate what they were able to hold on to. Meanwhile, the Khanate would occasionally come into conflict with the Uzbek tribes in the northwest.
Aside from that, the 15th century was a relatively peaceful one for the Khanate, which was becoming monstrously large. This would differ from the 16th century, which began with China being plagued by Japanese piracy. In order to prevent the Khanate's economy and security from collapsing, Ganzorig Toghon Khan ordered the navy be expanded to deal with the seaborne threat. Then, one day in 1509, the Khanate's navy came across a strange vessel from a far away land -- Portugal.
While the Yuan Khanate was spending centuries trying to quench its insatiable hunger for land, Europe was lifting itself out of the Dark Ages, beginning an era of discovery, culture, and wealth in what the French would eventually call the "Rebirth" or "Renaissance". Throughout Europe, starting in Italy, artisans began emulating the style of the old Roman Empire, and European rulers started comparing themselves to Julius Caesar with titles like "Cesar", "Kaiser", and "Czar". Now, the nations of Europe were eager to trade with the Orient, and the Yuan became fascinated.
The Khanate was rejuvenated by the introduction of food crops and massive amounts of silver from the New World, and Portugal even helped the Khanate take care of its piracy problem. After occupying Japan in the 1520's, the government felt invincible, and launched a series of military operations all over Asia. In Persia, they clashed with the rising Osman Empire, which threatened to expand into their realm. In Central Asia, they launched countless attacks on the native Kazakhs, who soon evacuated their homeland and helped destabilize the Golden Horde. In India, they plowed over the handfuls of smaller kingdoms around the Indus and Ganges rivers, causing even more chaos. By 1575, the Yuan Khanate had bit off more than it could chew, and overextension began tearing the empire apart. In 1591, the Yuan dynasty finally capsized like its predecessor centuries before.
At the time, many European scholars believed that the Khanate's story was finally over. However, it wasn't going to end just yet. In fact, the real story was only beginning...
The World in 1600:
Notes:
1. The Americas and Africa look basically the same, because 1) I'm not a strong believer in butterfly effect, and 2) I'm not going to spend two hours making changes that are going to be drawn over in the next part.
2. Thanks to two Mongol invasions and countless wars on its soil, Persia has, unfortunately, been reduced to a shell. The Persian culture is still managing to survive in the western parts.
3. The orange empire in northern India is known as the Yin Empire, and has an interesting Sino-Indian culture.
4. The Kazakhs have been pushed further west, and as a result, the Russians have lost interest in trying to get to the Caspian Sea. Instead, they will probably focus more on the Black Sea, which is going to give the Ottomans some headaches.
5. China is currently under the Manchu-led Kuai Dynasty.
6. Khanate rule in Japan meant the end of individual clans, and the country is now a highly centralized shogunate.
7. The Yuan Khanate did see a brief interest in exploration in the 1500s, exploring around the Indian Ocean. However, it didn't last very long, and there isn't a lot left of their influence except for a few Chinese artifacts.
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Map of New Tuscany (Nuova Toscana), colony of Italy in South America.
Map made by me.
For description here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton_expedition
Map made by me.
For description here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton_expedition
Map of New Tuscany (Nuova Toscana), colony of Italy in South America.
Map made by me.
For description here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton_expedition
Well, I have learned something new today.
You never stop to learn
14 different countries transported into another world. 10 years after the event.
America (1865): Abraham Lincoln's assassination never occured. The Confederate territories are slowly coming back into the Union, while American settlers have slowly settled outside the Union. Sioux tribesmen have settled outside the ordinary boundaries as well. The general consensus among the Eurasian powers is that the Americas are the USA's sphere of influence.
Aztecs (1505): The Aztec Empire is still independent, but is very much a US protectorate. Christian missionaries have spread their influence here, and the US government has pressured Montezuma to relax some of the Aztecs more morbid customs.
Zulu Kingdom (1815): 10 years ago, the British disappeared. Since then, the Zulu have been alone. None of the other powers have stopped in South Africa extensively (though ships from India have passed by).
Egypt (1250 BC): Currently being invaded by the Ilkhanate. A poor day for Ramesses indeed.
Macedonian Empire (326 BC): Was fighting a war with the Roman Empire when they got invaded by Mongols as well. Life has not been fun for them.
Babylonia (1775 BC): Have wisely accepted their new Ilkhanate leaders.
British Raj/India (1946): The disappearance of the rest of the British Empire lead to a somewhat faster change in Indian status. Sri Lanka and the Indian Islands belong to a direct British Commonwealth nation, which has since laid claim to parts of Myanmar, Thailand, and Malaysia. India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan maintain an official alliance with the Commonwealth, though India and Pakistan have their own quarrels. Bangladesh and India have since expanded eastward. French and Portuguese India have aligned themselves with the Commonwealth, with the Eastern French Republic laying claim to Sumatra. Pakistani and Bangladeshi settlers have settled near Mecca.
People's Republic of China (1955): Have expanded into Indochina, Taiwan, and Korea. The Great Leap Forward has taken a somewhat different (and less deadly) turn.
Mongolia (1220): Split between the USSR, PRC, and Pakistan. The USSR and PRC are still arguing about how to divide it. Mongols who managed to flee from the invasion have invaded Macedonia and Egypt, establishing the Ilkhanate, though they've learned to not antagonize the USSR and Pakistan.
USSR (1945): Spent some time dividing up Mongolia with China. Also took over Prussia and has expanded in other areas.
Prussia (1770): Now enjoying its life as the Prussian Soviet Socialist Republic.
Roman Republic (44 BC): Julius Caesar died soon after the event, with his son Augustus taking over after a period of civil strife. Since then, he's been busy fighting against the Macedonians.
French Republic (1804): Took over the Roman territories in the Low Countries and Iberia and has since expanded eastward. Has had a small amount of Frenchmen arrive to assist from the East.
Kingdom of England (1600): Has since reclaimed the rest of the Isles. Has also gotten some people from abroad, and has decent relations with France at the moment.
It's the civs from Civ1 brought into a virgin earth. Mongolia's territory (and subsequent fate) is based off Tsochar's villain map.
I'd do this, but playing Paradox games means that it would just be a map of OTL minus some micronations...
I just realized something.
I have no idea how to map the the tectonic plates around the poles of my planet, if i post the plate boundaries so far is there someone here who could help me out?
I have no idea how to map the the tectonic plates around the poles of my planet, if i post the plate boundaries so far is there someone here who could help me out?
It does depend as to where the plates meet. Posting a map would help generally.
Here's a hastily made plate boundaries map, the colors should be self explanatory. My main problems are figuring out how to end the mid ocean ridge that goes up and down the center of the map, and the subduction zone on the east coast of the central continent.
fashbasher
Banned
Longer Wars of Religion? Balkanize Me!
POD: The UK and later the Commonwealth of North America controls settlement of North America to limit ideological "undesirables", instead resulting in most Pilgrims and Puritans either staying in the British Isles or moving to the continent. Mennonites, Amish, Hutterites, Lutheran evangelicals, Dutch conservatives, utopian socialists, agrarians, and all the other ideologically motivated settlers are kept out of the US, which develops very similarly to OTL Canada outside of the slave states ed: which are like OTL Barbados or the Bahamas (affluent, racially mixed, and very loyal to the crown). While *The USA is less right-leaning than in OTL, Europe is a mess as the large-scale Pilgrim and Puritan emigration to continental and Nordic Europe means that the wars of religion don't really end until the 1820s, and Europe is a patchwork of relatively poor and divided states:
The colors represent the political affiliation of the president or PM:
Light gray - Nonpartisan. Includes the Aegean League, Malta, the Principality of Rügen, and the Barbary Emirate.
Purple - Protestant theocracy. Includes Amish, Mennonite, Puritan, Conservative Lutheran, Calvinist, and *Mormon (the nutcases in North Jutland are the equivalent of the Danish Mormon colony in Utah) sects. Territory includes Waldensia, the Amish State, Gammelsvenskland, Hutterland, the Calvinist Republic, Northern Scotland, Eastern Ireland, the Russian Mennonite Commonwealth, and much of Northern Europe.
Dark blue - Protestant Christian Democrats. Includes the Cévennes, Friesland, East Prussia, Wales, Kernow, and parts of Germany and Transylvania.
Light blue - Catholic Christian Democrats. Includes Spain, Sardinia, Croatia, Istria, Moravia, Ruthenia, Slovakia, Wallonie, Free Eire, Poland, Latgale, and Lithuania.
Dark green - Muslim Democrats. Includes Bosnia, Sandzak, and the Ottoman Turkish Sultanate.
Brown - Orthodox Christian Democrats. Includes Greece Bulgaria, Ukraine, Byelorussia, and Pomoria.
Yellow - Conservative and centrist neoliberals. Includes Portugal, Latvia, Iceland, Albania, Corsica, Valdosta, Cechy, most of Switzerland and North Italy, Dobrogea, and numerous Baltic and German states.
Red - Social democrats (generally more libertarian leaning than in OTL). Includes Italy, Skopje, the French Republic, the Principality of Northumbria, and much of Scandinavia.
Pink - Utopian socialists. Most of these collapsed into other ideologies, making peace with either neoliberals, social democrats, or Christian Democrats; only the Pyrenean Association survives.
Light green - Green parties. Includes Tras-os-Montes, South Tyrol, Slovenia, and Scotland.
Dark Red - Revolutionary socialists. Currently only Crimea and Bavaria.
Olive - National conservatives (between the UK Tories and PiS) . Includes Hungary, Russia, England, and Monaco (which gobbled up much of southern France).
Dark gray - Fascists and other far-right parties. Includes Vendee, Austria, and Alsace.
POD: The UK and later the Commonwealth of North America controls settlement of North America to limit ideological "undesirables", instead resulting in most Pilgrims and Puritans either staying in the British Isles or moving to the continent. Mennonites, Amish, Hutterites, Lutheran evangelicals, Dutch conservatives, utopian socialists, agrarians, and all the other ideologically motivated settlers are kept out of the US, which develops very similarly to OTL Canada outside of the slave states ed: which are like OTL Barbados or the Bahamas (affluent, racially mixed, and very loyal to the crown). While *The USA is less right-leaning than in OTL, Europe is a mess as the large-scale Pilgrim and Puritan emigration to continental and Nordic Europe means that the wars of religion don't really end until the 1820s, and Europe is a patchwork of relatively poor and divided states:
The colors represent the political affiliation of the president or PM:
Light gray - Nonpartisan. Includes the Aegean League, Malta, the Principality of Rügen, and the Barbary Emirate.
Purple - Protestant theocracy. Includes Amish, Mennonite, Puritan, Conservative Lutheran, Calvinist, and *Mormon (the nutcases in North Jutland are the equivalent of the Danish Mormon colony in Utah) sects. Territory includes Waldensia, the Amish State, Gammelsvenskland, Hutterland, the Calvinist Republic, Northern Scotland, Eastern Ireland, the Russian Mennonite Commonwealth, and much of Northern Europe.
Dark blue - Protestant Christian Democrats. Includes the Cévennes, Friesland, East Prussia, Wales, Kernow, and parts of Germany and Transylvania.
Light blue - Catholic Christian Democrats. Includes Spain, Sardinia, Croatia, Istria, Moravia, Ruthenia, Slovakia, Wallonie, Free Eire, Poland, Latgale, and Lithuania.
Dark green - Muslim Democrats. Includes Bosnia, Sandzak, and the Ottoman Turkish Sultanate.
Brown - Orthodox Christian Democrats. Includes Greece Bulgaria, Ukraine, Byelorussia, and Pomoria.
Yellow - Conservative and centrist neoliberals. Includes Portugal, Latvia, Iceland, Albania, Corsica, Valdosta, Cechy, most of Switzerland and North Italy, Dobrogea, and numerous Baltic and German states.
Red - Social democrats (generally more libertarian leaning than in OTL). Includes Italy, Skopje, the French Republic, the Principality of Northumbria, and much of Scandinavia.
Pink - Utopian socialists. Most of these collapsed into other ideologies, making peace with either neoliberals, social democrats, or Christian Democrats; only the Pyrenean Association survives.
Light green - Green parties. Includes Tras-os-Montes, South Tyrol, Slovenia, and Scotland.
Dark Red - Revolutionary socialists. Currently only Crimea and Bavaria.
Olive - National conservatives (between the UK Tories and PiS) . Includes Hungary, Russia, England, and Monaco (which gobbled up much of southern France).
Dark gray - Fascists and other far-right parties. Includes Vendee, Austria, and Alsace.
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Eh? What are you talking about?
You do know that Genghis Khan's real name was Temujin, right? And that the title 'khan' predates the Mongol Empire by centuries? It's a word that means 'chieftain' or 'warlord' and has existed in Turkic languages since before Genghis united the tribes.
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