The idea is that the North started the war and vastly underestimated the rebels. The CSA gained more support than OTL and many states willingly joined. So the USA got pushed back
Map Thread XV
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I'm not trying to promote anything, but this is the first map I have made with the standard base map and color scheme, so I decided to share it here (perhaps you'll give some feedback or advice):
It's a map of the world in my timeline in 1725. There's a lot to explain about everything here, but for a summary, it's about a Lithuania which defeated Moscow in the 1370s and grew to dominate Eastern Europe. I can answer questions if there are any.
Why Dutch America but not Dutch South Africa? How did Lithuania and Poland split?I'm not trying to promote anything, but this is the first map I have made with the standard base map and color scheme, so I decided to share it here (perhaps you'll give some feedback or advice):
It's a map of the world in my timeline in 1725. There's a lot to explain about everything here, but for a summary, it's about a Lithuania which defeated Moscow in the 1370s and grew to dominate Eastern Europe. I can answer questions if there are any.
Portugal took SA first, the Dutch attempted to conquer it in the 17th century, but failed. The Dutch don't have much competition in North Vespucia (NorthAmerica), however, as Britannia (England) is an extremely isolationist Puritan absolute monarchy.
Lithuania and Poland didn't split, the union just never happened.
MAP OF EARTH, 2136
From A Jovian Night's Dream
Special thanks to @Gryphon for his help with the map
Earth is the beating heart of modern civilization. It’s where humanity first evolved over a period of several million years and then proliferated throughout the Solar System--first, through unknown means around 10,000 to 15,000 years ago during the Quaternary extinction event, and second, on the backs of chemical (and later, nuclear) rockets during the past 200 years. Humanity is the only known extant intelligent species to have evolved on Earth, though modern archeological evidence and theories suggest there may have been intelligent lie far earlier than previously theorized.
The planet is currently relatively peaceful compared to its past. Three cataclysmic world wars were fought over a hundred year period, and it was followed by the Pabodie Caldera eruption in Antarctica that altered global climate, further upsetting the geopolitical system. Today, the world can be divided into three primary power blocs: the Pacific Rim Consensus, the Communist International and the Non-Aligned League.
The Pacific Rim Consensus is a group of allied states with similar economic models, found in East Asia and western North and South America (Trans Pacific Alliance) and western Africa (African Friendship Conference)--because TransPac nation are the largest and most powerful, this bloc of countries are often called TransPac nations. Nominally democracies, TransPac nations feature heavy, top down technocratic leadership and are traditionally dominant party or even one party states, either through natural democratic selection or a managed democratic system. Examples include the Kuomintang (KMT) in China, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) in Japan, Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) in Mexico and the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) in Nigeria. TransPac economies are characterized by the government having a guiding hand in the economy through public benefit corporations and national champions/flag carriers. Populations are highly urbanized, and extensive and often expensive infrastructure programs are the norm, such as a series of massive hydro-electro dams on the Yangtze and the North American Water and Power Alliance, which drains rivers in Alaska and the Canadian Arctic and sends them south into the United States and Mexico.
The United States is the leading nation in the Pacific Rim Consensus. The U.S. had previously reached a peak of hegemonic power in the late 20th century between the Second and Third World Wars, but its defeat in the latter saw the Soviet Union ascend to become the superpower. However, the U.S. regained its spot following the Deluge in the middle of the 21st century. The Republic of China had previously been a communist nation, but the regime began a transition to technocracy and guided democracy so subtly nobody noticed until it was too late. Likewise, Korea had a similar transition after the communist North united the peninsula following World War III.
The Communist International is an alliance of communist nations that had once been the largest and most powerful hegemonic force on Earth, but it has sense fallen on hard times. A wave of social protests and national reawakenings forced the Soviet Union to withdraw from most of Europe, leaving only a small ring of allies and satellite states. Today, the Soviet Union has begun to fall behind the People’s Republic of Brazil as the number one communist nation in terms of economic and military power. The Soviet Union no longer practices orthodox communism as its economic model more closely resembles a socialist market economy or even state capitalism. This contrasts sharply with the Christian communism of Brazil or the crypto-Posadist Trotskyism of the West African Worker’s State (the Soviet Union has pushed the UN for strict enforcement of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty because only they truly know what West Africa wants with nuclear weapons, while the American CIA only suspects).
The Brazilian-back Bolivarian Revolutionary Front has spread revolution across South America. The Bolivarians have seized control in Uruguay, and there’s ongoing rebel activity in Paraguay, Bolivia and Peru. TransPac military forces are currently occupying Bolivia to suppress the rebels there, while the Non-Aligned League has deployed peacekeepers to Paraguay and Peru to keep the peace there. Things in South America are a little tense right now. It hasn’t even been 75 years since the Great South American War that followed the Deluge and the Brazilian Revolution, which saw Brazilian people’s legions cross the borders to seize territory in Colombia, Peru, Ecuador and Paraguay.
The third major power bloc is the Non-Aligned League. The League was first formed during the 20th century during the Cold War for third world nations to act as a third way against the capitalist west and communist east. Located primarily in the global south, the League lacks any coherent shared ideology or economic system aside from feel good social liberalism, even as inequality and political corruption is on the rise. Many League nations have consolidated into larger federal nations over the course of the 21st and 22nd century. It started with the United Arab Republic in the 20th century, but the Republic of India and the South Asian Economic Forum federalized in the beginning of the 22nd century. Likewise, East Africa and South Africa came to their current borders in the last decades of the 2000s. The major League powers continue to operate regional trade and currency blocs with smaller neighbors that have still refused to consolidate.
The last power bloc is the Commonwealth, which is the remnants of the British Empire and their erstwhile Scandinavian allies. The United Kingdom dissolved following World War III, and Britain’s island and off world empire was divided between her successors states and the victorious Communist Bloc. Scotland, Canada (which now includes several Caribbean provinces), Australia and New Zealand remain tightly bound, allied through free trade, the Commonwealth pound and Queen Victoria III. The Scandinavian nations were some of the few to escape the horrors of multiple world wars and resulting military occupations, and became closer and closer until unification was inevitable. A constitutional monarchy, Scandinavia took a look at the rest of the world and decided that the Commonwealth was the only sane, sensible allies to have.
While the world is largely at peace, not all is right. There’s ongoing communist revolutionary activity in central South America, funded by the priestly cadres being trained by seminaries in Rio de Janeiro. The Congo was divided into several occupation zones by the United Nations following the Fourth Congo War in the 2110s. Peace has finally been restored to the war-torn nation, and as its people are prepared to check off the final benchmarks for sovereignty, the occupying peacekeepers are preparing to wind down their missions. Europe remains a mess, but it’s not as much as a mess as it was at the beginning of the century. Armies of child soldiers no longer roam the countryside of central Europe, and national governments are finally able to exert control outside their capitals.
From A Jovian Night's Dream
Special thanks to @Gryphon for his help with the map
Earth is the beating heart of modern civilization. It’s where humanity first evolved over a period of several million years and then proliferated throughout the Solar System--first, through unknown means around 10,000 to 15,000 years ago during the Quaternary extinction event, and second, on the backs of chemical (and later, nuclear) rockets during the past 200 years. Humanity is the only known extant intelligent species to have evolved on Earth, though modern archeological evidence and theories suggest there may have been intelligent lie far earlier than previously theorized.
The planet is currently relatively peaceful compared to its past. Three cataclysmic world wars were fought over a hundred year period, and it was followed by the Pabodie Caldera eruption in Antarctica that altered global climate, further upsetting the geopolitical system. Today, the world can be divided into three primary power blocs: the Pacific Rim Consensus, the Communist International and the Non-Aligned League.
The Pacific Rim Consensus is a group of allied states with similar economic models, found in East Asia and western North and South America (Trans Pacific Alliance) and western Africa (African Friendship Conference)--because TransPac nation are the largest and most powerful, this bloc of countries are often called TransPac nations. Nominally democracies, TransPac nations feature heavy, top down technocratic leadership and are traditionally dominant party or even one party states, either through natural democratic selection or a managed democratic system. Examples include the Kuomintang (KMT) in China, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) in Japan, Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) in Mexico and the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) in Nigeria. TransPac economies are characterized by the government having a guiding hand in the economy through public benefit corporations and national champions/flag carriers. Populations are highly urbanized, and extensive and often expensive infrastructure programs are the norm, such as a series of massive hydro-electro dams on the Yangtze and the North American Water and Power Alliance, which drains rivers in Alaska and the Canadian Arctic and sends them south into the United States and Mexico.
The United States is the leading nation in the Pacific Rim Consensus. The U.S. had previously reached a peak of hegemonic power in the late 20th century between the Second and Third World Wars, but its defeat in the latter saw the Soviet Union ascend to become the superpower. However, the U.S. regained its spot following the Deluge in the middle of the 21st century. The Republic of China had previously been a communist nation, but the regime began a transition to technocracy and guided democracy so subtly nobody noticed until it was too late. Likewise, Korea had a similar transition after the communist North united the peninsula following World War III.
The Communist International is an alliance of communist nations that had once been the largest and most powerful hegemonic force on Earth, but it has sense fallen on hard times. A wave of social protests and national reawakenings forced the Soviet Union to withdraw from most of Europe, leaving only a small ring of allies and satellite states. Today, the Soviet Union has begun to fall behind the People’s Republic of Brazil as the number one communist nation in terms of economic and military power. The Soviet Union no longer practices orthodox communism as its economic model more closely resembles a socialist market economy or even state capitalism. This contrasts sharply with the Christian communism of Brazil or the crypto-Posadist Trotskyism of the West African Worker’s State (the Soviet Union has pushed the UN for strict enforcement of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty because only they truly know what West Africa wants with nuclear weapons, while the American CIA only suspects).
The Brazilian-back Bolivarian Revolutionary Front has spread revolution across South America. The Bolivarians have seized control in Uruguay, and there’s ongoing rebel activity in Paraguay, Bolivia and Peru. TransPac military forces are currently occupying Bolivia to suppress the rebels there, while the Non-Aligned League has deployed peacekeepers to Paraguay and Peru to keep the peace there. Things in South America are a little tense right now. It hasn’t even been 75 years since the Great South American War that followed the Deluge and the Brazilian Revolution, which saw Brazilian people’s legions cross the borders to seize territory in Colombia, Peru, Ecuador and Paraguay.
The third major power bloc is the Non-Aligned League. The League was first formed during the 20th century during the Cold War for third world nations to act as a third way against the capitalist west and communist east. Located primarily in the global south, the League lacks any coherent shared ideology or economic system aside from feel good social liberalism, even as inequality and political corruption is on the rise. Many League nations have consolidated into larger federal nations over the course of the 21st and 22nd century. It started with the United Arab Republic in the 20th century, but the Republic of India and the South Asian Economic Forum federalized in the beginning of the 22nd century. Likewise, East Africa and South Africa came to their current borders in the last decades of the 2000s. The major League powers continue to operate regional trade and currency blocs with smaller neighbors that have still refused to consolidate.
The last power bloc is the Commonwealth, which is the remnants of the British Empire and their erstwhile Scandinavian allies. The United Kingdom dissolved following World War III, and Britain’s island and off world empire was divided between her successors states and the victorious Communist Bloc. Scotland, Canada (which now includes several Caribbean provinces), Australia and New Zealand remain tightly bound, allied through free trade, the Commonwealth pound and Queen Victoria III. The Scandinavian nations were some of the few to escape the horrors of multiple world wars and resulting military occupations, and became closer and closer until unification was inevitable. A constitutional monarchy, Scandinavia took a look at the rest of the world and decided that the Commonwealth was the only sane, sensible allies to have.
While the world is largely at peace, not all is right. There’s ongoing communist revolutionary activity in central South America, funded by the priestly cadres being trained by seminaries in Rio de Janeiro. The Congo was divided into several occupation zones by the United Nations following the Fourth Congo War in the 2110s. Peace has finally been restored to the war-torn nation, and as its people are prepared to check off the final benchmarks for sovereignty, the occupying peacekeepers are preparing to wind down their missions. Europe remains a mess, but it’s not as much as a mess as it was at the beginning of the century. Armies of child soldiers no longer roam the countryside of central Europe, and national governments are finally able to exert control outside their capitals.
If not for how my chair is designed, I would say I fell backwards laughing.
Hrm. I suppose that Morocco/Algiers/Tunis are Ottoman vassals, same as inner Arabia? Might would help to use a different color for that. Try taking the Turkish shade and desaturating that some instead of being so bold.
Haven't seen that color for Sicily in a while. It's a nice one. Is it Peninsular Dominant, or is it just personal choice?
Also, Corsica and Elba seem to be using the same shade as Terra Nullis (same as Rhodes, Hormuz, etc). Unless the islands had a complete die off, they should just use a neutral white color if it's a neutral state.
Also, borders: borders should never have jagged edges like you have them, where they are all two pixels wide. Instead, try to have them where they only touch on the corners, not on the sides. (Not that it isn't allowed, but should only be used sparring, when there is no other option). That will allow your borders to look a bit more organic instead of suffering from straight line syndrome. (See, Hungarian-Ottoman border, which I imagine is a military frontier).
That's why your central asian borders look so thick compared to others.
Also, interesting China. Something happen over there?
WIP For Asia Uber Alles, taking place a decade after the ISOT. As you can see, borders shall be fixed soon. British India etc. has reformed into an emergency Commonwealth, loads of Armenians have migrated north to form their own state safe from the Ottomans, with Russians doing the same, and Japan and Turkey claiming incredibly huge areas of land, but only theoretically being able to take them.
Why is China moving north instead of pushing the British, French, and Germans out of their territory?
fashbasher
Banned
1913: The Year the Music Died
The so-called Riparian Fever first reared its head in February of 1913. A viral infection that might have had a 10 year or more incubation period before it reared its ugly head, the fever's symptoms varied in severity, with common ones ranging from occasional headaches and spells of hearing loss among the milder cases to parkinsonism, seizures, and even occasional deaths in rare instances. What was uniform, however, was a sudden loss of musical talent and an apathy to any form of music. Survivors of the fever were at best tone deaf and at worst suffered from "febrile rage", a condition in which sufferers were sent into a state of excited delirium by hearing music or even being around objects associated with it like instruments, phonographs, and books of sheet music. The vector was never fully determined; it may have been transmitted initially by mosquitoes in the Deep South and may have spread via contact with the Deep South and its residents, only becoming symptomatic after a lengthy incubation period. The effects, though, were noteworthy and were picked up heavily in the press. Scott Joplin, already riddled with syphilis and who'd lived for much of his early career on the edges of the endemic area while coming into contact with many blacks from the Mississippi River corridor, was sighted tossing his entire works into the East River. Similarly, observers of the time reported seeing bonfires throughout East Tennessee in which banjos, fiddles, and books and books of music and hymns were torched; thankfully, several travelers grabbed stashes of the so-called "hillbilly music" and were able to preserve at least some of it to this day.
The resulting map shows the depth of the epidemic:
Louisiana: 95% of blacks and 90% of whites affected
Mississippi Delta and West Tennessee: 90% of blacks and 85% of whites affected
Eastern Mississippi, Northern Alabama, and Middle Tennessee: 70% of blacks and 75% of whites affected
East Tennessee: 40% of whites (locally up to 80%, for instance in Bristol) and 40% of blacks affected
Eastern Arkansas: 50% of blacks and 45% of whites affected
Northwest Arkansas: 30% of whites affected (black population is too small for accurate data)
East Texas: 30% of blacks and 25% of whites affected (higher among those who had close contact with Louisianans)
Southeastern Missouri, Southern Kentucky, North Georgia, western NC: 20% of blacks and 25% of whites affected
Northern US cities as well as Los Angeles: 15% of blacks and <5% of whites affected
Cuba: 30% of blacks, 30% of whites, 5% of Chinese, and 5% of Arabs affected
Jamaica: 20% of blacks, 25% of whites, 5% each of Chinese, Indians, and Arabs affected
The so-called Riparian Fever first reared its head in February of 1913. A viral infection that might have had a 10 year or more incubation period before it reared its ugly head, the fever's symptoms varied in severity, with common ones ranging from occasional headaches and spells of hearing loss among the milder cases to parkinsonism, seizures, and even occasional deaths in rare instances. What was uniform, however, was a sudden loss of musical talent and an apathy to any form of music. Survivors of the fever were at best tone deaf and at worst suffered from "febrile rage", a condition in which sufferers were sent into a state of excited delirium by hearing music or even being around objects associated with it like instruments, phonographs, and books of sheet music. The vector was never fully determined; it may have been transmitted initially by mosquitoes in the Deep South and may have spread via contact with the Deep South and its residents, only becoming symptomatic after a lengthy incubation period. The effects, though, were noteworthy and were picked up heavily in the press. Scott Joplin, already riddled with syphilis and who'd lived for much of his early career on the edges of the endemic area while coming into contact with many blacks from the Mississippi River corridor, was sighted tossing his entire works into the East River. Similarly, observers of the time reported seeing bonfires throughout East Tennessee in which banjos, fiddles, and books and books of music and hymns were torched; thankfully, several travelers grabbed stashes of the so-called "hillbilly music" and were able to preserve at least some of it to this day.
The resulting map shows the depth of the epidemic:
Louisiana: 95% of blacks and 90% of whites affected
Mississippi Delta and West Tennessee: 90% of blacks and 85% of whites affected
Eastern Mississippi, Northern Alabama, and Middle Tennessee: 70% of blacks and 75% of whites affected
East Tennessee: 40% of whites (locally up to 80%, for instance in Bristol) and 40% of blacks affected
Eastern Arkansas: 50% of blacks and 45% of whites affected
Northwest Arkansas: 30% of whites affected (black population is too small for accurate data)
East Texas: 30% of blacks and 25% of whites affected (higher among those who had close contact with Louisianans)
Southeastern Missouri, Southern Kentucky, North Georgia, western NC: 20% of blacks and 25% of whites affected
Northern US cities as well as Los Angeles: 15% of blacks and <5% of whites affected
Cuba: 30% of blacks, 30% of whites, 5% of Chinese, and 5% of Arabs affected
Jamaica: 20% of blacks, 25% of whites, 5% each of Chinese, Indians, and Arabs affected
It's still a WIP, mind you. Plus the colonial powers may try and secure their influence there. Northern expansion is easier for China too, though at the point of ISOT, China was on the brink of losing its monarchy, so it will likely need significant revisions before the final product. For example, without foreign aid from Europe and America, its easily possible places like China, Indonesia and even the Commonwealth may collapse, which Japan and Turkey would doubtlessly take advantage of.
One might think that I'm jumping on the ISOT bandwagon. Well not quite. This map was actually made for this thread.
fashbasher
Banned
A "Puritans (and other British conservatives and rebels) migrate to Northern Europe instead of the USA" scenario. The language shown is either a North Germanic language with as much Anglo-American influence as Italian has on Maltese or vice versa.
My turn to get on the ISOT hype train because why not. The premise here is that some states/nations from 2017 are ISOTed to a Virgin Earth. What they all share in common is that they're represented in various video games in my collection in some form.
The rule for inclusion is the nation/state must be where a majority of a game's plot takes place, where most of the lore is focused on, where significant plot points occur, the nation happens to be the antagonist, or has a close enough Expy or Fantasy Counterpart Culture.
I'll make this into a full scenario soon. Already got it about half done.
The rule for inclusion is the nation/state must be where a majority of a game's plot takes place, where most of the lore is focused on, where significant plot points occur, the nation happens to be the antagonist, or has a close enough Expy or Fantasy Counterpart Culture.
I'll make this into a full scenario soon. Already got it about half done.
What video games do you own to where there featured on this map?
- Massachusetts - Fallout 4, Assassins Creed 3, Murdered: Soul Suspect
- Rhode Island - Family Guy Video Game!
- New York - Grand Theft Auto IV
- Pennsylvania - Left 4 Dead
- New Jersey - Max Payne 3
- Maryland, DC, Virginia - Modern Warfare 2
- Gulf States + Georgia - Left 4 Dead 2
- Louisiana - Mafia 3
- Illinois - Hitman: Absolution
- Colorado - Dead Rising 1 & 4
- Arizona - Pokemon X-D: Gale of Darkness (Fantasy Counterpart Culture clause)
- Nevada - Dead Rising 2
- California - Grand Theft Auto V
- Hawaii - Pokemon Moon (Fantasy Counterpart Culture clause)
- Costa Rica - Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
- Panama - Call of Duty: Black Ops II
- Venezuela - Call of Duty: Ghost
- Sao Paulo - Max Payne 3
- UK - Overwatch
- France - Pokemon X/Y (Fantasy Counterpart Culture clause)
- Germany - World at War, Wolfenstien: The New Order, Sniper Elite V2 & 3
- Italy - Ryse: Son of Rome
- Hungary - Bayonetta (Fantasy Counterpart Culture clause. If memory serves, Vigrid was located on the Austro-Hungarian border)
- Russia - Modern Warfare series, Metro 2033, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
- Greece - God of War: Chains of Olympus/Ghost of Sparta
- Turkey - Dying Light
- Cyprus - Assassin's Creed: Bloodlines
- Iraq - Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
- UAE - Modern Warfare 3
- Egypt - Call of Duty: Black Ops III
- Chad - Far Cry 2
- Sri Lanka - Ghost Recon: Predator
- Vietnam - Call of Duty: Black Ops
- Hong Kong - Sleeping Dogs
- Japan - World at War/Pokemon Series
- Papua New Guinea - Dead Island series/Far Cry 3
The Krajs of Czechia, giving the historical border between Bohemia and Moravia more attention:
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