Map Thread XV

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TheScottishMongol

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"We may never know why, on June 1st, 2017, these sixteen nations - eleven US states, two Australian states and one territory, the Mexican state of Sonora, and the Commonwealth of the Bahamas - were grouped together without rhyme or reason and cast adrift in time and space. What we do know is that we represent the only humans on this green Earth, and I assure you that in the coming days I and my fellow leaders will work together to adjust to our new world and cooperate to ensure our future security and prosperity. God bless you, and God bless all of mankind." - Newly sworn-in President Mattis, speaking from the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia.

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This is actually an ISOT map based only on places I've been to. I'll probably do a sequel in the next couple of days.
 

Ephraim Ben Raphael

TheScottishMongol said:
"We may never know why, on June 1st, 2017, these sixteen nations - eleven US states, two Australian states and one territory, the Mexican state of Sonora, and the Commonwealth of the Bahamas - were grouped together without rhyme or reason and cast adrift in time and space. What we do know is that we represent the only humans on this green Earth, and I assure you that in the coming days I and my fellow leaders will work together to adjust to our new world and cooperate to ensure our future security and prosperity. God bless you, and God bless all of mankind." - Newly sworn-in President Mattis, speaking from the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia.

This is actually an ISOT map based only on places I've been to. I'll probably do a sequel in the next couple of days.
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I like ISOT series, but isn't that only four nations not sixteen?
 

B_Munro

Faeelin said:
These aren't Mormons. They were in Missouri and were never populous enough to seize huge territories. Mormonism also didn't emerge until the 1830s, by which point these were both states.
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Well, Brasband13 does term himself "Emperor of Deseret": what's an emperor without some subjects? :biggrin:

And to be fair, what's a Napoleon-wank without some American territories? :winkytongue:

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Bleh

Ephraim Ben Raphael said:
I like ISOT series, but isn't that only four nations not sixteen?
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TheScottishMongol said:
I wasn't sure what word to use - polities? Maybe I should have gone with states?
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Here's one possible fix; have President Mattis' speech be during June 1, 2021 after having just won reelection. With the central governments gone for all country remnants (sans the Bahamas) the Union survived the event, but as actual government function largely fell to state and local governments, a type of state-based nationalism gained rapidly in popularity, particularly in California and Texas. As the Union becomes more HRE-like in structure, Mattis looks to reverse this but also doesn't want to rankle any feathers. As an olive branch to the ill-prepared and impromptu opposition party, which favors decentralization, Mattis refers to the ISOTed territories as 'nations' in his inaugural address.
 

TheScottishMongol

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Bleh said:
Here's one possible fix; have President Mattis' speech be during June 1, 2021 after having just won reelection. With the central governments gone for all country remnants (sans the Bahamas) the Union survived the event, but as actual government function largely fell to state and local governments, a type of state-based nationalism gained rapidly in popularity, particularly in California and Texas. As the Union becomes more HRE-like in structure, Mattis looks to reverse this but also doesn't want to rankle any feathers. As an olive branch to the ill-prepared and impromptu opposition party, which favors decentralization, Mattis refers to the ISOTed territories as 'nations' in his inaugural address.
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Mayybe, but my idea was that Mattis was the only member of the line of succession to be ISOTed, being in the Pentagon at the time while the rest where in D.C. or Mar-a-Lago. This was basically supposed to be his address to the nation on the evening of Day 1, after they'd figured out what was going on.
 

Bleh

TheScottishMongol said:
Mayybe, but my idea was that Mattis was the only member of the line of succession to be ISOTed, being in the Pentagon at the time while the rest where in D.C. or Mar-a-Lago. This was basically supposed to be his address to the nation on the evening of Day 1, after they'd figured out what was going on.
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Of course, it's your project. In that case 'polities' might not be a bad idea, or perhaps the more general 'lands', i.e. 'disparate lands' as opposed to 'sixteen nations', or something like that.
 

Chairwoman Roxelana

124 State US, based off that one map with all of the breakaways.
Dark Blue: Democratic Hold.
Dark Red: Republican Hold.
Bright Blue: Democratic Gain.
Bright Red: Republican Gain.

(I messed up during apportionment (My excel formulas missed the 1st row, so Coastal California wasn't included), which is why there is an extra 25 seats in the House.)
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Interesting Notes:

1. Most of the gains come from new states in safe areas
2. Other Democratic gains come from new states in previous non-American areas and bifurcated purple states.
3. Other Republican gains come from disassembled Blue States.
3. Smallest States are North Slope (9,687) and Huerfano (6,711)
4. Largest States are Coastal California (18,669,074) and Eastern Texas (15,042,689)
5. 74 Red States to 50 Blue States
 
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Iserlohn

metalinvader665 said:
Why would they let blacks have the Mississippi Delta when that was one of the most prosperous regions in the South (in terms of cotton production)? Even as a bantustan sort of thing, you want whites to be in charge of that. Plus, it needs more attachment to the government for flood protection and land improvement in order to make use of most of the land. Unless the Negro AR for there came later, like century-plus later.

And some of those Indian ARs are really small. Like a fraction the size of one modern Florida county small.
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Slavery was abolished in the CRA in 1901, more than a decade after the decline of the plantation economy. The Negro AR system was only established in the late 1910s. Oh and the Mississippi River is internationalized, being the border of three different nations and all, so the CRA federal government is bound to take care of it even though they honestly don't care much about what happens to the people inside their ARs.

And yeah, the Indian ARs often are small. I based most of them on a map of reservations I found, and those just are quite small in the area. Also a country which idolizes Andrew Jackson isn't going to be nice to its natives...
 
KitFisto1997

KitFisto1997

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The Sino-Soviet Nuclear War

I normally don't put maps on the Map Thread... But when I do, I have write-ups... :D

Consider this to be a remake of one of my older maps Nixon's Legacy, featuring an earlier America-goes-World-Police by virtue of a nuclear war between the USSR and PRC. Also inspired by some of rvbomally's maps. Also has a lot of 70's-punk elements via Left/Right political violence in Europe, an ongoing Sino-Soviet split, a US/Soutj Nam victory and some weird cult-y shit.

  • The PoD is the late 1960's where negotiations between Brezhnev and Mao break down to the point where embassies are closed and the USSR and PRC engage in various border skirmishes that nearly lead to war on multiple occasions.
  • The US under Nixon tries to find a way to take advantage of the conflicts by trying to broker a peace between the two states in an attempt to avoid a nuclear conflict. The US-brokered negotiations eventually fail as the ideological differences and mutual hatred put the Cold War on hold for a while as the two Communist juggernauts gear up for war.
  • The Americans also end up forcing a ceasefire in Vietnam while nobody was looking via mass bombing and a successful shutting down of the Ho Chi Mihn Trail.
  • The Yom Kippur War is a much more bloodier affair that leads to Israel roundly defeating a longer-lasting United Arab Republic. A follow-up war in the 80's led to Jerusalem saying "Fuck this" and throwing nukes around the Middle East until the Arab forces stopped coming. They're now nothing but a phariah state in the international community. But at least there's a Jewish state, so that's one good thing... Right?
  • The Sino-Soviet Nuclear war breaks out on the 9th of May 1985 as nuclear missiles fly over the borders of the USSR and the PRC, laying waste to both nations that eventually survive the turmoil with a massive loss of population centres and territory.
  • The Russian Federation emerges from the ashes of the conflict as an overly nationalistic republic under the Liberal-Democrats (the name is very misleading) while the USSR took what remained of it's nuclear-armed navy and buggered off into the frozen north where they've set up numerous buffer states in the south to keep everyone away from them. The Chinese also fractured and are limited to what remains of the heavily nuked north.
  • Student protests continue in Europe as France cracks down quite heavily on them while the Germans are forced out of NATO and the WEU after the Greens complained about it. Greece suffers another Civil War and is Communist with a rump Kingdom in the Agean and Cyprus. Italy underwent a bloodier Years of Lead that ended in a neo-Nazi coup with a North/South dichotomy between them and the French-backed Padanians in the north.
  • Poland is a major power in Eastern Europe and has since underwent a huge Catholic revival movement with Pope John Paul II spearheading it from Rio after the Papacy fled the Vatican.
  • The UK falls apart after an aborted Communist Revolution with Thatcher shutting down the mines that led to a huge uprising from within the Labour Party. The IRA assassinate the Queen and the Americans are still occupying England to this day. But don't worry, Westminster is around... Albeit as a puppet of Washington.
 

DPKdebator

Chairwoman Roxelana said:
124 State US, based off that one map with all of the breakaways.
Dark Blue: Democratic Hold.
Dark Red: Republican Hold.
Bright Blue: Democratic Gain.
Bright Red: Republican Gain.

(I messed up during apportionment (My excel formulas missed the 1st row, so Coastal California wasn't included), which is why there is an extra 25 seats in the House.)
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Interesting Notes:

1. Most of the gains come from new states in safe areas
2. Other Democratic gains come from new states in previous non-American areas and bifurcated purple states.
3. Other Republican gains come from disassembled Blue States.
3. Smallest States are North Slope (9,687) and Huerfano (6,711)
4. Largest States are Coastal California (18,669,074) and Eastern Texas (15,042,689)
5. 74 Red States to 50 Blue States
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Virginia should be red, though NoVA stays blue.
 
Zrew33

Zrew33

A Quick WIP of my Caliverse World Map 1950 some 6 years following then of this universes answer to the Second World War.

Obviously anything and everything can be subject to changes

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Faeelin

B_Munro said:
Well, Brasband13 does term himself "Emperor of Deseret": what's an emperor without some subjects? :biggrin:

And to be fair, what's a Napoleon-wank without some American territories? :winkytongue:
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I actually love the idea of the Bonapartes playing the Byzantine Empire out from the New World.
 

Arkenfolm

Iserlohn said:
Slavery was abolished in the CRA in 1901, more than a decade after the decline of the plantation economy. The Negro AR system was only established in the late 1910s. Oh and the Mississippi River is internationalized, being the border of three different nations and all, so the CRA federal government is bound to take care of it even though they honestly don't care much about what happens to the people inside their ARs.

And yeah, the Indian ARs often are small. I based most of them on a map of reservations I found, and those just are quite small in the area. Also a country which idolizes Andrew Jackson isn't going to be nice to its natives...
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But are blacks in charge of the Delta? Because OTL that place was printing money for the planters in the late 19th/early 20th century. Bantustans deliberately didn't include the best land. The Delta would certainly qualify as "best land" if you're a planter.

Are there war scares/diplomatic issues when someone blows up a levee? Like if you're a planter on one side and want to screw your rival on the other side over, you send some guys to blow up a chunk of the levee during a flood to go destroy them while preventing your own destruction either by the flood or them doing the same to you? Internationalised Mississippi seems to open a whole can of worms.
 
The Plainsman

The Plainsman

KitFisto1997 said
  • Poland is a major power in Eastern Europe and has since underwent a huge Catholic revival movement with Pope John Paul II spearheading it from Rio after the Papacy fled the Vatican.
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Did Poland get so powerful due to the vacuum the Soviets left? Also, are the two Germanys neutral or are they apart of the free world?
 
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