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No, both nations have more blood on their hands than not. Numerous cultures wiped out, slavery, support for imperialism, etc. Especially in the 1800s.
As well as millions saved by local innovations, foreign aid, and military interventions against Nazism.
 
Nations, shmations. It's people which are the problem. What do you say, Bender?

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Well said. No people, nobody doing anything bad.

(Let's get back to maps, meatbags.)
 
Map of the results of the Ukrainian presidential election in 1991.
A presidential election was held in Ukraine on 16 June 1991. Political processes in Ukraine proceeded in the same way as in Russia - the local national-democratic opposition of the CPSU won the election. Ihor Yukhnovskyi, the Chairman of the Supreme Council and de facto acting president, was elected with 51.3% of the vote. He was a compromise figure between different factions of the democratic movement. Ukraine achieved independence and carried out economic reforms that initiated the Ukrainian economic miracle, in the presidency of Yukhnovskyi.
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here's the fifth and probably final version of 1984+, completing it where i'd only been, like, 95% with the old version. while still hopeful for input on what Britain should look like on the map, i figured i may as well post it. the biggest part of the update is divvying out various islands. in particular, i decided to just make most of the Pacific islands into an actual disputed zone being fought over by Australia, Japan, and the NAU (except for Midway, where the Soviets replace Australia). this also makes it a bit of an experimental map because i'm using very different maritime borders--not only did i ramp up the use of circular borders for them such as with Hawaii, i've also implemented alot of diagonal ones to group certain islands together and link them to a particular power, but you could also consider this to mark an area where a particular country's navy is active for the larger, more arbitrary areas such as the NAU essentially claiming all of the West Indies--Cuba is probably still independent by virtue of the Soviets threatening war if they're invaded. this also allowed me to make an experimental conflicting maritime border between the Equatorials and Australia where they both claim some islands in the eastern Indian Ocean. i've also revised the Desolation Islands as being claimed by South Africa--it probably just amounts to a naval base on whichever island is least hostile and there's no permanent inhabitants. it makes more sense to me that the Soufricans would claim and hold it rather than Madagascar. i've also given the puppet-state overlays to Latin America that i was planning on, and there's fewer than i was expecting; i did default to Central America in its entirety being the NAU's stomping grounds, but decided to give the remaining states there (Costa Rica, El Salvador, and Guatemala) dominion overlays indicating that they are subject to American tyranny but are usually left alone--they've gotten off easy compared to the other parts of Central America and especially Mexico. Hawaii has a similar designation where, while they're a full state and subjected to the same injustices as others in the NAU's jurisdiction, they're usually left alone--all the Americans really want is to use the islands for bases so it's more like it is IOTL than other parts of the world. just like the rest of TTL, though, it's not exactly pleasant--no Hawaiian illusion at all, here. it's probably got a reputation more like alot of other tropical destinations where tourists only stick to the resorts walking barely ten feet out of them might result in you being mugged. there's also some claims to Antarctica, but like IOTL they don't really go anywhere, and Greenland now has conflicting claims of de facto control over Denmark's continuing de jure ownership between the Americans and the Soviets, basically a realization of the less-mentioned polar disputed zones from Orwell's novel. also, Japan has reclaimed full half of Sakhalin. in South America, Uruguay is under Argentina influence but is still functionally independent, and is probably the most-free country on the continent with a successful communist government (inspired by the current(?) President of Uruguay being perhaps one of the most humble world leaders out there, giving just about his entire salary back to the country and essentially living in a shack by his own choice). the last bit that i changed for South America is that Ecuador is puppetized by Colombia, but that's about all i have for it. i based Uruguay and Ecuador's situation on their history since the former used to be part of what became Argentina (after seceding from Brazil) and the latter was part of Gran Colombia, though i decided to just leave Venezuela as is

the other big change is cleaning up Manchuria and Central Asia. i simplified the Manchurian situation and have it that the Soviets just have de facto control of everything north of the Amur and Japan's not in the picture anymore (unless you count Sakhalin). what i finally decided on for Central Asia is to have it that they are still SSRs but there is/was an ongoing invasion of the region by China in an effort to get at Moscow and they swept through the steppes to an extent--they've formally claimed both the capital and largest city of Kazakhstan, so the Soviets have a provisional capital further east--but are limited in the south by the Equatorials and their ally Afghanistan and by rivers in both the north and south (hence why they have a tiny sliver of Turkmenistan and why the Soviets still have part of western Kazakhstan) before fighting to a stalemate and now there's a DMZ through central Kazakhstan. probably part of the reason for the invasion is because the Soviets themselves are pretty close to Beijing thanks to their position north of the Amur.

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i think that's about everything. all that remains is to formally decide on how big i want the Celtic Union to be. thoughts?
 
The 13 Commonwealths of the U.S.

No specific POD in mind. Inspired by Fallout, and I had some vague vague notion from Fo4 that it was done by Nixon.

My choice of capitals was arbitrarily, sometimes based on centrality, sometimes off of importance, sometimes as a cultural compromise.

Each Commonwealth has a population of around 25 million people to eliminate unequal senatorial representation.

>Ohio Commonwealth
>Capital in Fort Wayne
>Actually Hoosier Empire

I actually enjoy it, good map.
 
i think that's about everything. all that remains is to formally decide on how big i want the Celtic Union to be. thoughts?

Do the Scottish people actually think of themselves as Celtic? The majority of people in Scotland have spoken funny sounding English ("Scots") since before Columbus sailed the Ocean blue.
 
I'm currently rushing to get the first post on a couple different threads/forums since the site came back up. Quickly, have a map
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A sequel to the map I posted back on, what was it, page 200 I believe it was, the Missionary Cossack Army one (which inexplicably became popular, again. I need to study the formula that made that so popular.)

In this one, the Missionary Cossack Army centralized into the Sasaku Empire (Sasaku being a Bantu corruption of Cossack). I tried to the best of my ability to ukraino-fy some of the names, to some affect. Personally, I think this is one of my most aesthetically pleasing maps I've made

edit: goddamnit, 2 people posted ahead of me.
 
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Do the Scottish people actually think of themselves as Celtic? The majority of people in Scotland have spoken funny sounding English ("Scots") since before Columbus sailed the Ocean blue.
they're regarded as such for Pan-Celticism. the point here is less "we're with Ireland now" and more "we're not with England anymore" since the latter obviously went full-Ingsoc. could totally have 'em separate but allied if so desired.

at the moment i'm trying to compile info on this for an eventual munroist-style version of the map, but i'd still like input on what i should do with Britain in particular (it's also letting me clean up a few details that i accidentally overlooked, namely a small Pacific island that i forgot to color in)
 
Do the Scottish people actually think of themselves as Celtic? The majority of people in Scotland have spoken funny sounding English ("Scots") since before Columbus sailed the Ocean blue.

Having lived in Scotland, a ton of Scots are very proud of their history as Celtic peoples. Gaelic is making a deliberate comeback, too, so I would say yes, the Scots definitely identify with their Celtic ancestry.
 
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Apologies for the extra white space. This is from a potential timeline project, the map shows time zones adopted in 1883 in this alternate timeline. It's an interesting looking map, so here's a share!
 
I can't see alt-Utah wanting part of the state split from Salt Lake City, nor Dakota being split.
Salt Lake City was an important railroad hub. The railroad between SLC and Sacramento had to be a different time zone than the one from SLC to Topeka, so it made sense to make the time change official while you were changing trains in Salt Lake City itself. (the line being just west of the city)
 
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