Map Thread XV

[B_Munro]

Development levels, but as of 1890-1900, blended with geography. Australia in 1900 was pretty developed outside of the deep bush.

So you could substitute advanced local civilizations for recent immigrants from halfway around the planet?

 

[Deleted member 94708]

003. The Conclusion of Geopolitics
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This map is based on a Russian book titled “Foundations of Geopolitics.” I have yet to find a copy in a language I understand, so my interpretation is based on the Wikipedia entry and the English translation of its table of contents. I’m not saying I understand the project at all, but when I visited Seoul and stumbled on a unification fair, there was a tent that was displaying children’s school books smuggled out of the North. One English language book (why North Korean children are learning English is already puzzling) was very interesting in its first lesson vocabulary: Revolution, glorious, patriot, etc.

When taking notes on this project, I felt a bit of deja vu.

“Foundations of Geopolitics” is a nearly 600 page book written/compiled by one Mr. Aleksandr Dugin. The book is, if reports are believed, popular among Russian military, elites, and even the Top Dog himself, President Putin. Does that mean that Dugin is making policy decisions and is the shadow master behind the Eurasian project?

No. Obviously not. I say “obviously” because there’s already political happenings and decisions taking place that go against Dugin’s strategy. At least as many (like China) that act counter to actions where his strategy is clearly being implemented (Ukraine). If I were to make a serious conclusion about the influence of Dugin’s book, it is more like a strategy guide than an ideological purity test of international focus. Were the goals Dugin lays out to actually be achieved, they will most likely take a different course of actions than what we see in the book. Think of the Bible, if all Christians listened and followed every word it said exactly, we’d still have slavery and no banking industry (story for another time).

This map (with no year decided but I had imagined it being 7 October 2052, Putin’s 100th Birthday) takes Dugin at his word and portrays the world as he would like to play Russia if he was suddenly given the keys.

I won’t rehash the English sources on the book (they’re either quoted directly above or portrayed directly on the map) but I will need to explain the parts of the map that are extensions of Dugin’s logic but not explicitly described.

The two areas he doesn’t seem to touch are Africa and South America. Reasonable since access to them precludes unrestricted naval access, Russia’s perennial problem (outlined by Admiral McMahon and portrayed often by Tom Clancy). While they’ve been gunning for access to the sea at least since St. Petersburg was built, and arguably was a motivation behind the First World War, domination of the sea trade and market access still eludes Russia in the ways that other countries (like the dual ocean United States) has just fine. Dugin’s main idea tries to turn this naval strategy (called by the euphemism “Atlanticism”) on its head, and make a united Eurasia to combat the influence from oceanic power. Dugin insists that conventional military strategies haven’t really worked for Russia in the past, so expansive espionage, subterfuge, and propaganda campaigns should be favored instead.

The German sphere of influence (with France as junior partner) is “all of Catholic and Protestant Europe.” This basically summarizes most of the EU today, which Russia would certainly want to keep for shopping vacations and a market place to sell all of that Natural Gas. The ultimate goal is “Finlandization,” keeping Europe weak and out of “Atlanticist” hands. This means that, like in the world before 1500, the Atlantic Ocean will become a relative backwater. Russia knows what pirates did in the Aden Gulf, and the ultimate victory here would be to make America and her allies uncomfortable in to sail here. In this world, there’s a rise in old, rogue, Soviet-era captains with aging, retired, or stolen ships that prowl the general lawlessness of the Atlantic.

This Russia would need to do with China what it did to Europe. In this world, (colored purple because they’re neither an ally nor enemy of Russia… picture Austria’s relationship with Germany 1850-1900), Russia made sure to dismantle the least Chinese parts of China and absorb them into “the Eurasian Project.” She now has access to the Sea via Manchuria but it’s a shaky position at best. While Russia will insist that the American settlers of Alaska and Hawaii were Russian, and seek to annex them, she’ll also want to encourage China to be their proxy power in the Pacific, encouraging and helping them get that pipeline in Burma, in securing the Spratly Isles, and in gaining exclusive mining rights in Australia.

Iran “as a key ally” and Islam in general as allied to anti-Atlanticist ideology, is another key here. Russia will draw lines of battle not against Christian civilization and Islamic civilization, but as the mystical, romantic east (of which they are a part) versus the rational, overly logical west (there’s a lot to say here, but this is not the place for that…). These two prongs – a naval China, and an Islamic bloc – is how Russia, now the master of Eurasia, will expand into Africa and South America, serving as the endgame of their world strategy: the conclusion of geopolitics.

Now hold off on that polonium. I didn’t make this map out of some commentary on Putin’s politics, or to serve as a warning of the dystopian future that awaits if Russia becomes the sole world power. Actually, I would expect stability, high market access, increased consumer goods, higher standards of living, and a Eurasia of many cultures to be one that is generally prosperous and beneficial for its denizens, regardless of the political structure that got it there. Imperial China wasn’t always bad, and neither was the century of Pax Americana. While Dugin is an honest-to-God Fascist, he’s only human, and plans, even if they succeed, have a way of getting out of hand. This time line sees a world where Russia, and by extension Russians themselves, rise exponentially on the world stage. Some places may be falling by the way side, some old infrastructure will crumble, some politicians bought off, but I guess what I’m getting at is that this version of earth (taken as a whole) isn’t a dystopia. No more than ours is.

Artistic notes: The flag of Eurasia is a “North Koreanized” version of the current Russian flag. No, it’s not a political choice. They come from this thread (www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/c…) by u/Driver3 and only because I love most of those flags. My personal favorites are Bhutan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, and… well, frankly, I prefer most of them to most of the maps we have in the world currently.

I would love to see Russia implement this given that the bits of China it's chopped off have MORE PEOPLE THAN IT.

Kinda would make the "managed democracy" facade untenable, assuming that they succeeded without a Sino-Russian nuclear exchange...

 

[Mr. Orwell]

A Map of 2017 for a scenario I'm planning out called Bellum Aeturnus

The Great War has lasted for 103 years so far. At least 700 million have died from the war itself combined with the Spanish Flu. Once Brazil joined the Central Powers it was confirmed that the war would carry on. The Germans had saved most of their strength by not launching major suicide offensives in the west and had invaded Scandinavia in the 30s. The Germans are ruled by Wilhelm V who controls all with the military that are under the control of officers and generals who served very well in Italy, Russia, and France. The Central Powers in Europe have resorted to a system of Penal Battalions to make up for loss in manpower. Many men and boys from towns in Poland and Slavic rejoins would be given guns and uniforms and forced to fight at gunpoint. The Germans nearly ended the war in the west twice but after the 2nd Battle of the Marne, have resorted to pure defensive conflict in France and Belgium.

America was dragged into the war in 1917 yet was mainly forever delayed mainly from entering Europe thanks to Brazil's declaration on the US after the Americans had fully invaded Mexico in 1916. The Colombians joined Brazil after being promised to reform Gran Colombia and regain Panama. The US has forever stopped that it seems. The hawkish Rosseveltite Republicans have dominated the White House for decades. Despite the Democrats reigning in the 30s and 60s they were replaced by the Socialists who have been elected since the fall of the Democrats and the Ku Klux Klan. The Republicans passed civil rights in 1970, now everyone is conscripted equally. Thanks to Brazilian-Chilean-Colombian-Paraguayan entry, the Mexican Revolution carries on. The constant flow of guns to the Revolutionaries and Villaists makes Mexico in a Perkins to state of anarchy and US occupation. Ecuador meanwhile is the only neutral country on the continent, yet has failed constantly to spark peace between both sides. The Third Allied country to fall, Argentina joined the allied side as sein as Brazil did for Germany, it was conquered by 1924 with the Brazilians getting lots of help from Chile. Canada is probably the greatest of all Dominions. The CEF served across the Western Front with courage, now Canada supplies the best agents and commandos the Entente needs.

Africa has been drained of men and resources. The massive rubber plantations of the Congo are consistently drained for demand. Congo is what is left of the Belgian government. At least 8,000 white settlers gathered around Leopoldville and Stanleyville to rule over 7 million Africans. The Europeans drained Africa of its population and effectively slaughtered them on mass suicide charges in Western Europe and Southern Asia. The Indian was more respected than the African. There are by the year of our lord 2017 three main revolting areas. The first is a large group of Herero hiding in the sands of Southwest Africa. Besides the occasional raid by South Africa or Portugal. In northern Transvaal, a group of Afrikaners mount a continuos rebellion inspired by the Maritz Rebellion. The Boers are doing what they do best, and that's guerrilla warfare. The Boers revolted after the 1994 abolition of African supervisional rule effectively allowing blacks to become police officers to fighter pilots. The Third is in East Africa. Though von Lettow-Vorbeck has been dead since 1925, the local Africans have been inspired by his Guerilla tactics. To combat this, Portuguese soldiers and British Kikuyu soldiers fight a war of tagging killed. The war in Africa is who killed more wins.

Russia has gone through hell, the first real people's attempt to end the war was here, and forever it will live in infamy. The Russian Civil War lasted a decade and the Empire was united into a military dictatorship under Mongolian Khan, Baron Roman Nikolai Maximillian von Ungern-Sternberg. The "Mad Baron" centralized Russia while fighting a "fluide Guerilla war" on the front lines (The Russian tactics which are used on the Eastern and Siberian/Mongolian fronts are essentially that of Finish tactics in the Winter War and Communist Tactics in late 40s China). Russia uses its vast territory to its advantage, willing giving territory for time and for the enemy to be overstretched and destroy it.

The Ottomans were able to kill T.E. Lawrence in 1917 and managed to keep the Arab revolt isolated. The Armenian Genocide was ended once the German Penal System was introduced. They continue the war to grab their territories in Egypt and Libya and possibly more. They hold three fronts, the Sinai to keep up the pressure on the Suez Canal, the Arabian to finish off the British backed Wahhib Caliphate and take the British colonies of Oman and Aden.

In Asia the Japanese continue their endless conflict for domination of the Pacific. They fight a continuous war against Russia in the north since 1928. Japan also has been fighting the Europeans with their Siamese allies since about 1925. The Japanese have claimed to their people's that they are on a coarse to "liberate" the colonized areas. In China the situation stabilized because the country acts like a group of autonomous nations. However they do fight and nothing Chengdu can do. Japanese Korea since the 1950s has been a chaotic depopulated war zone. As inspired by that of Park Chung-Hee and Kim Il-Sung, Koreans have been in a state of constant war against the Japanese and their collaborators. 70% of the Korean population has been killed off.

Lying deep where the elite doesn't know, is a storm brewing, and once it hits it can't be stopped, for the workers will rise and end the retched war.

P.S: I'm not a communist

 

[Analytical Engine]

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A Map of 2017 for a scenario I'm planning out called Bellum Aeturnus

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Well, at least Russia hasn't been invaded by gene-modifying aliens.

 

[Cool-Eh]

A Map of 2017 for a scenario I'm planning out called Bellum Aeturnus

Interesting, if completely implausible.

 

[Dumanios]

Europe As It Should Be by Louis P. Bénézet (1918)

I saw this map and got inspired. Some of the borders could be better, but I guess I'm satisfied. Based off the UCS 1914 map.

 

[DPKdebator]

I saw this map and got inspired. Some of the borders could be better, but I guess I'm satisfied. Based off the UCS 1914 map.

Independent Uber-Wales but Ulster is still a part of England? Weird.

 

[3DBEANIE]

Spoiler: Big Map of England (Blank)

Quick question for big-map makers: How do you do it?

Just finished making this big blank map of England, and I used google maps to stitch together a map of it, before "lasso"-ing the outlines until I got to the end, where I used border select to make the border.

I'm just interested to learn how other map makers do it

Feel free to use this! (Don't worry, I'm going to cross-post this in the blank map thread, it's just my question is more related to this thread).

Spoiler: How I did it

 

[AK47Productions]

Part III of my Race Invasion of 1944 series. This is only a WIP because a writeup will come to describe the current world. Map date: June 2, 1963:

 

[Minnesota_Nationalist]

Snipple

Going to have to keep this tactic in mind. Might be a bit easier than trying to trace Google Earth every time I need a new base map!

 

[Isaac Beach]

I won't flood the map thread with WIPs, but just the one. Here's a little project I'm working on, using a template from the lovely MBAM creators. A future TL, hence the sunken Netherlands; trying to figure out how the provinces of this Carolingian 2.0 would merge over time, I want the borders from the modern day to be indistinguishable, though corners such as Bavaria and Occitania can remain distinct. Also Schweiß can into Voralberg .

 

[Minnesota_Nationalist]

For this very special day, I thought I'd share some of my best works, from me to you

Spoiler

April Fools! Have fun with your burning eyeballs!

Based on House of the Scorpion:

Based on Skyrim:

Idea for an "Inverted world," Where land is sea and sea is land:

Don't worry, my eyes are burning as much as yours. I'm sad that once upon a time I made these maps, but I'm so glad I have improved as much as I have. I'm sure you guys are just glad I've improved too and not chugging out this crap this bad nowadays. Happy April fools, and all that.

(By the way, I haven't even subjected you to the worst map)

 

[Remitonov]

For this very special day, I thought I'd share some of my best works, from me to you

Spoiler

April Fools! Have fun with your burning eyeballs!

Based on House of the Scorpion:

Based on Skyrim:

Idea for an "Inverted world," Where land is sea and sea is land:

Don't worry, my eyes are burning as much as yours. I'm sad that once upon a time I made these maps, but I'm so glad I have improved as much as I have. I'm sure you guys are just glad I've improved too and not chugging out this crap this bad nowadays. Happy April fools, and all that.

(By the way, I haven't even subjected you to the worst map)

I've done worse.

Spoiler: Two Georges-esque North America

Spoiler: Reichzeit!

I was young. (And this aren't even my most shameful works.)

 

[Valdore Javorsky]

Spoiler: Big Map of England (Blank)

Quick question for big-map makers: How do you do it?

Just finished making this big blank map of England, and I used google maps to stitch together a map of it, before "lasso"-ing the outlines until I got to the end, where I used border select to make the border.

I'm just interested to learn how other map makers do it

Feel free to use this! (Don't worry, I'm going to cross-post this in the blank map thread, it's just my question is more related to this thread).

Spoiler: How I did it

Meh, look at this
(Jk, yours is quite well)


I myself use an upscaled map of any kind (example: VBAM is based on an upscaled Vic2 map) which I use as general orientation since I know most parts are horrifically incorrect.
The actual drawing comes from scratch.

But that might have to do that I use a graphic tablet

 

[Valdore Javorsky]

I won't flood the map thread with WIPs, but just the one. Here's a little project I'm working on, using a template from the lovely MBAM creators. A future TL, hence the sunken Netherlands; trying to figure out how the provinces of this Carolingian 2.0 would merge over time, I want the borders from the modern day to be indistinguishable, though corners such as Bavaria and Occitania can remain distinct. Also Schweiß can into Voralberg .

View attachment 314792

Now the internationalism has taken us Berlin and Usedom! ;-;
Make Germany great again, retake 1937 borders! Or even better - 1939!!!

 

[Isaac Beach]

Now the internationalism has taken us Berlin and Usedom! ;-;
Make Germany great again, retake 1937 borders! Or even better - 1939!!!

No, I was just too lazy to colour them in . I'll colour them in the finished product.

I don't think so, the Polish-lead Intermarium is the most powerful military force in Europe .

 

[B_Munro]

I would love to see Russia implement this given that the bits of China it's chopped off have MORE PEOPLE THAN IT.

Now don't exaggerate: only about 4/5 the population of Russia.

Kinda would make the "managed democracy" facade untenable, assuming that they succeeded without a Sino-Russian nuclear exchange...

Given their success in taking Alaska and Hawaii from the US, Russia clearly has that WORKING STAR WARS DEFENSE SYSTEM people used to scream about in all-caps on soc.history.what-if.

 

[Valdore Javorsky]

No, I was just too lazy to colour them in . I'll colour them in the finished product.

I don't think so, the Polish-lead Intermarium is the most powerful military force in Europe .

Why not make Berlin an Anarchist State?

(Black: anarchy, Yellow: Transnational Companies, grey: actual "city")

 

[Catalunya]

Part III of my Race Invasion of 1944 series. This is only a WIP because a writeup will come to describe the current world. Map date: June 2, 1963:

You forgot to put Turkey in rising- or notable powers.

 

[SilverPhantom2]

I would love to see Russia implement this given that the bits of China it's chopped off have MORE PEOPLE THAN IT.

Kinda would make the "managed democracy" facade untenable, assuming that they succeeded without a Sino-Russian nuclear exchange...

What? Glorious Manchurian electorate would happily vote for Moscow's premier candidate and liberator extraordinaire!

In all reality, I at first had Manchuria just listed as a CIS and Eurasian ally, but figured they'd probably like to annex them for warm water access as in the 1900s. ITTL my guess is that Manchuria would be a Eurasian Republic, and not be eligible to elect the Moscow-based President. They'd have their own who "works in tandem" with Moscow.

As for World War III, yea, I kind of pictured there being a last-ditch alliance between America and China with Eurasia being victorious and taking what they wanted. Though it's more of a map-making exercise than a serious scenario.