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It would go down to field guns rather quickly, possibly before it even gets the opportunity to attack the enemy. It might give rise to smaller forms of legged locomotion; steampunk AT-STs?
Perhaps. Though they'd still be spider-like in design; better mobility and balance (both for recoil from its own guns and for withstanding artillery fire).

There was a book series that featured this, actually. Leviathan by Scott Westerfeld.
 
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  1. Venezuela from Call of Duty: Ghosts (the founder of the Federation of the Americas, still maintains their Space Assets.)
  2. Brazil from Boys of Brazil (it's Mengele and the Hitler Clones that justify this nation's presence... and Mengele will probably quickly leave.)
  3. Paraguay, Uruguay, and the American Union's Canadian territories from the Black Tide Map Game.

I can't think of any more villainous nations for South America or the rest of Canada. Maybe some sort of generic Nazi-run Argentina. If I can't think of anything else I'd probably just toss the rest of the Americas in with 1984's Oceania.
 
Added in
  1. Venezuela from Call of Duty: Ghosts (the founder of the Federation of the Americas, still maintains their Space Assets.)
  2. Brazil from Boys of Brazil (it's Mengele and the Hitler Clones that justify this nation's presence... and Mengele will probably quickly leave.)
  3. Paraguay, Uruguay, and the American Union's Canadian territories from the Black Tide Map Game.

I can't think of any more villainous nations for South America or the rest of Canada. Maybe some sort of generic Nazi-run Argentina. If I can't think of anything else I'd probably just toss the rest of the Americas in with 1984's Oceania.

I know it's not an ATL, but Spanish Peru wasn't the most fun place with their treatment of the natives.
 
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Added in
  1. Venezuela from Call of Duty: Ghosts (the founder of the Federation of the Americas, still maintains their Space Assets.)
  2. Brazil from Boys of Brazil (it's Mengele and the Hitler Clones that justify this nation's presence... and Mengele will probably quickly leave.)
  3. Paraguay, Uruguay, and the American Union's Canadian territories from the Black Tide Map Game.

I can't think of any more villainous nations for South America or the rest of Canada. Maybe some sort of generic Nazi-run Argentina. If I can't think of anything else I'd probably just toss the rest of the Americas in with 1984's Oceania.
Ahhh, the Black Tide. I had great fun with doing Norway, Yunnan, and Portugal for that. And helping out with one of the countries that became the Wild West showground for the Germans and Japanese. Anyways, you could consider having the rest as members of the Condor Pact. Either the real one or the one from... What was it? Icarus Falls, that's right. Though that would be pretty interchangeable with the real one. Maybe you throw in one of the bloodthirsty regimes of the Inca when they were on a war footing and have parts of Bolivia be when the Soanish were depopulating the land for slave labor for their silver mines. Probably can put the Mounties from the recently completely timeliness loving the United States of Kansas. Really wish I remembered the names of these things better.
 
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Russo-American Alliance vs Anglo-Japanese Alliance
I originally was going to make a world based around War Plan Red, America's military contingency plan for war with Canada and the UK in the 1920s/30s, but as I expanded outwards things got more and more complicated, expanding to the Red-Orange Plan (so including Japan), and eventually allying a Kadet-controlled Russia with the US. As I got to Europe I realised I had no idea what to do with France, as they were allies with Russia and the UK. I eventually spun it so they were a third faction, who tries to keep themselves out of the tension whilst reaping the rewards of playing off two blocs desperately wanting them on their side. I was also keen to do a alternate-WW2 scenario that was a lot less ideological. Fascism and Communism either don't exist or are a small majority in this TL. The current time is about 1929. It's about five years off the start of the ATL WW2. The Great Depression is avoided in this TL, but WW1 went about the same (with an alternate Russian Civil War, of course).

If I had the patience and the time I would've loved to turn this into a timeline. At some point I might make 'victory' maps for each of the opposing sides.

Blue countries (Mexico/Argentina etc.) are pro-RAA.
Pink countries (Germany/Portugal etc.) are pro-AJA.
Green countries (Italy/Poland etc.) are neutral but French-leaning.


why do I do this

why do I make maps when I should be focusing

maps are my procrastination

I need help

Questions, suggestions and general feedback all welcome, as usual.
 
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(I'm not proud of this write up, if this gets a lot of love, I will come back to it. Feel free to use any of my ideas, as long as you give a one line credit towards me)

Not great, but it has promise. It could be developed into a timeline (several actually) and even become the next AH cliché next to that Kazakh border
 
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Russo-American Alliance vs Anglo-Japanese Alliance
I originally was going to make a world based around War Plan Red, America's military contingency plan for war with Canada and the UK in the 1920s/30s, but as I expanded outwards things got more and more complicated, expanding to the Red-Orange Plan (so including Japan), and eventually allying a Kadet-controlled Russia with the US. As I got to Europe I realised I had no idea what to do with France, as they were allies with Russia and the UK. I eventually spun it so they were a third faction, who tries to keep themselves out of the tension whilst reaping the rewards of playing off two blocs desperately wanting them on their side. I was also keen to do a alternate-WW2 scenario that was a lot less ideological. Fascism and Communism either don't exist or are a small majority in this TL. The current time is about 1929. It's about five years off the start of the ATL WW2. The Great Depression is avoided in this TL, but WW1 went about the same (with an alternate Russian Civil War, of course).

If I had the patience and the time I would've loved to turn this into a timeline. At some point I might make 'victory' maps for each of the opposing sides.

Blue countries (Mexico/Argentina etc.) are pro-RAA.
Pink countries (Germany/Portugal etc.) are pro-AJA.
Green countries (Italy/Poland etc.) are neutral but French-leaning.


why do I do this

why do I make maps when I should be focusing

maps are my procrastination

I need help

Questions, suggestions and general feedback all welcome, as usual.
Finns in Russian influence? There's gonna be a mob mad at you after reading this TL... :openedeyewink:
 
Americans are too close to the French enemy. Better deny them the Pacific.
The Russians allied with the French and got Vancouver Island. But yes, my first thoughts upon seeing the map was how bizarre it was for the French to win in Europe and for the British to then somehow take the Oregon Country, portions of Northern Louisiana, all disputed lands in Maine, PLUS the area around the Lake of the Woods which was specifically given to the Americans during the Treaty of Paris. I can only imagine what we would see if we went further down. Perhaps France controlling all of Hispaniola?

And of course that issue with Mexico being allied to the British despite them taking a fifth of their land, having a satellite take a sixth, and supporting the Commonwealth to both join their group and take more land from Mexico. With friends like that...
 
The Russians allied with the French and got Vancouver Island. But yes, my first thoughts upon seeing the map was how bizarre it was for the French to win in Europe and for the British to then somehow take the Oregon Country, portions of Northern Louisiana, all disputed lands in Maine, PLUS the area around the Lake of the Woods which was specifically given to the Americans during the Treaty of Paris. I can only imagine what we would see if we went further down. Perhaps France controlling all of Hispaniola?

And of course that issue with Mexico being allied to the British despite them taking a fifth of their land, having a satellite take a sixth, and supporting the Commonwealth to both join their group and take more land from Mexico. With friends like that...

Classic Perfidious Albion
 
That actually reminds me of one Czech AH book (well, "one", it consists of three enormous books) called Frogs in Milk. Basically it considers under what circumstances Czechoslovakia could have held out against Germany and even successfully launched a counteroffensive.
Interesting scenario actually, though I doubt being surrounded from nearly 40% of the country would be feasible to defend... and it wasn't... but that's a different story. If there are english versions of this TL I'd be interested in reading it.
Guess you could say that their troops czeched out ;)
 
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This map is based of a alternate history documentary, when the nazi won the war, thanks to technological development. Third reich conquer Us and become a superpower. The actual year is 2011
 
View attachment 310980 This map is based of a alternate history documentary, when the nazi won the war, thanks to technological development. Third reich conquer Us and become a superpower. The actual year is 2011

I'm not sure about the British Falklands (or Malvinas, depending on your POV) and Belize. Also, independent Liberia? The Nazis would never tolerate an independent state governed by people they viewed as subhuman. Additionally, the Nazis had plans to invade and divide up South America, so the continued independence of all of those countries is fairly implausible, especially if German conquered America. Also, the Japanese conquest of Alaska, and only Alaska, in North America is really strange. Germany conquering India- a territory clearly coveted by the Japanese, who were allied with the Indian National Army- is also pretty off, especially considering the fact that Japan claimed Australia and New Zealand, both of which have significant populations of caucasians (a fact important to consider because the Germans were pretty eager to protect whites). There are several quality elements though- I like your inclusion of independent Portugal and Sweden, and also the Romanians, Hungarians, Fins, and Bulgarians. I would advise adding internal territorial divisions, particularly around the Greater German Reich, a region that was frequently considered separate from the rest of the Reich's territory.
 
Why there not be Greater Finland and why it has same border as on OTL 2011? And I think that intention of Japan was total balkanisation of China. It wouldn't allow unified China.
 
So how is the south supposed to have won? What was the impetus for the British being able to exert the influence required to take so much of the American north and all of Oregon?
The British sent more troops(they have nothing to do in Europe) to America during the war of 1812-16, and continued to support the Indians. Also, the British helped Mexico.

World powers intervened in the american war. France is on the north side, Russia and Britain are on the south side. Since the war was earlier than OTL, the economic position of the southerners was stronger.
 
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