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Excellent! Imaginative, tons of detail - I am quite flattered that my crappy old map inspired all this. (It does do a little violence to the original story, in that Mohammed was well remembered as a writer of hymns - not as a religious heretic!)
Hey Bruce did this get triggered by the map I made not too long ago.
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Oh wow, I'm glad such an old map was able to inspire you! That's great!
(Plus, keep your eye out, one day there shall be a redux... perhaps)


Didn't know either of those at the time and barely know about that now so... happy coincidence

@Bennett They are well informed modifications (WITH TONS OF ACTUAL HISTORICAL FIGURES I AND OTHERS NEVER KNEW EXISTED!) for Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Games. Both are highly detailed mods, the first is already out but soon (maybe IDK) India patch (meaning new lore, new countries excetera) and THE NEW ORDER is coming 21st this month after 2/3 "demos".

Also, with this post, I will shamelessly use it to re-put and an updated (but still amateurish) version of my Canada map.

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The Penisula Ablaze!

Year is 1982. Here's my take on a more "influential" Italy during the Cold War (after a 2nd Civil War).

The Italians (Christian Democracy) helped Somalia against the attempted 1969 coup by Siad Barre and even during TTL Ogaden War (Italian Social Movement) helping also the Eritrean Independence Movements , also the "unification" of "Greater" Syrian Arab Republic might had some help from a certain "prince". The Italians also help the Kingdom of Greece in Exile (TTL Kuomintang China/ Taiwan) ; the USSR meanwhile is slightly more involved in the MENA region thanks to the Beria Plan so you have an Armenia SSR that nearly has all of its historical territory but has to bear the border with those who partecipated in their slaughter just more than half a century ago, then a victorious South Yemen. So far no one has bothered either Afghanistan or Iran.
So far the Federation of Arab Republics (Sudan, Lybia and Egypt) are now more leaning towars the USA while going on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge since Sadat barely survived the attempted assassination by the (Egyptian) Muslim Brotherhood, who are also trying to overthrow Hafez Al Assad but will suffer the same fate of their bretheren in the F.A.R. ; Kurdistan meanwhile is struggling so far because of its size and the recent expulsion of Syrian Kurds, not to mention that both their neighbors don't enjoy having a border with them, with Turkey having to deal with a Grey Wolf insurgency.
The USSR meanwhile is fine and stable, not good but could be worse, after having only 2 premiers in 29 years, with their successor (?) seemingly interested into continuing Krhuschevism and Kosyginism apparently good track record, with Armenians having recoreved miracolously above their Medz Yeghern and now number above 3,500,000 , maybe caused by the avengement of their genocide and the more availabity of land and space, maybe even the Khruschev and Kosygin thaws are responsable and the oil demand boom might be responsable, there are talks of even European businesses (Italian, Spanish and Portuguese) opening up, after Kosygin sucessor is talking about a new wave of thaws, aready being called Gorbachevism, a new brand of Communism perhaps?

FAR LEFT AUTHORITARIAN IDEOLOGIES IN "THE PENISULA ABLAZE"
  1. Marxism-Leninsm
  2. Stalinist "Marxism-Leninsm"
  3. Khruschevism
  4. Kosyginism
  5. Castrism
  6. (Romanian) National Communism
  7. Democratic Socialist Syndicalist (aka Berlinguerism)
OTHER IDEOLOGIES :

  1. Social Nationalism (Italian Social Movement)
  2. Italian Third Positionism (New Order maybe?)
  3. Lopesismo ( Portugal accepted the Marshall money, Salazar kicked the bucket in 1951)
  4. Thai Third Positionism (long story short : Thailand greatly won in the 1940s Franco-Thai War taking away Laos and Cambodia and Phibun wasn't overthrown, governing until his death)
  5. Canada in general (the British West Indies plus the Falklands were handed over to them nearly 60 years ago)
  6. Falangism
  7. Francoism
  8. Monarchism is still more than a thing

Additional info :
  • Thanks to Leo Amery, UK's Carribean territories are handed over to Canada (plus Bahamas, Falklands but no Guyana), Rhodesia joins the Union of South Africa [AKA a joke taken seriously and accepted]
  • KMT victory in the Chinese Civil War, but the USSR keeps Manchuria, East Turkestan is a buffer/puppet state just as Mongolia, Tibet is free.
  • Korean War actually won by the south which unifies it
  • French Civil War , Italy keeps Corsica and the other lands conquered from France, still looses Istria and others
  • Palmiro Togliatti Assassinated, retaliation against other "Fathers of the (Italian) Republic!
  • Communist insurrection ➡ Second Italian Civil War ➡ Commies get annihilated
  • FDR partition of Germany
  • Thai victory in the Franco-Thai War , snatching Laos and Cambodia
  • Portugal accepts Marshall money, Salazar dies early and his successor keeps the colonies to this day
  • Eisenhower helps Katanga, Katanga Republic still present
  • Union of the two Congos into a Socialist republic
  • East African Federation Formed
  • 1964 US sponsored Italian invasion of Malta after they threatened to have a Soviet base
  • No Vietnam War
  • No Watergate scandal
  • Italian Yugoslav War in 1972 : partition of the country into the Republic of Slovenia-Croatia and Serbia (Italians take back the Terra Irridenta and Ljubiana)
  • USA elections : the White House belongs uninterruptedly to :
From 1933 to 1962 Democrats
From 1962 to 1990s Republicans
  • Italian elections : Rome belongs to :
From 1947 to 1972 Christian Democracy
From 1972 to 1987 (Death of Giorgio Almirante) Italian Social Movement - National Blocs Coalition governments
After 1987/1990s maybe Italian Socialist Party headed by Craxi (maybe)
 
A (somewhat) complete map of Westeros and western Essos from ASOIAF. Finding maps of anything below the 7 Kingdoms is somewhat annoying, especially considering how much warfare goes on within individual kingdoms, so I've been using this as a decent approximation:
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(Note: This doesn't really represent WHO holds the titles as much as the de jure titles themselves, otherwise, for example. King's Landing would be the same color as the Baratheon holdings)
 
It's 1:18 AM where I am. I don't have the will or the energy to make a writeup. Here is my cover of @B_Munro 's Agent Of Byzantium map (based on the book by the same name by the great and mighty Harry Turtledove).

Feel free to ask questions, though I can't guarantee that I'll be able to answer them. The flags on the sides were meant to be placeholders (note how the two Romes are just recolored versions of the same flag), but they stuck, so that's what you get now.


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It's 1:18 AM where I am. I don't have the will or the energy to make a writeup. Here is my cover of @B_Munro 's Agent Of Byzantium map (based on the book by the same name by the great and mighty Harry Turtledove).

Feel free to ask questions, though I can't guarantee that I'll be able to answer them. The flags on the sides were meant to be placeholders (note how the two Romes are just recolored versions of the same flag), but they stuck, so that's what you get now.


How the hell did you get this through ah.com? It's lagging my pc!
 
My only criticism of a lot of these maps is how heavy they are on the subdivisions. While I think they are aesthetically pleasing in some cases, I think going overboard with them hurts more than helps a map. A lot of places simply don't need them, after all.
 
Such a fine set of maps! Apologies if I haven't really commented on any of the covers after the first: I have to look at all the notes and details for each, and it's a touch overwhelming.
 
I think this is an interesting idea.

that said as someone who knows Indian states there are some issues with the names of the remaining native kingdoms. Mumbai I assume is named after the city, but is far inland away from where it is. The Maratha Confederacy owns almost no Marathi lands so wouldn’t be called that. you also already have a Maratha state in Maharashtra already. Sindhava I assume is named after Sindh but contains no part of the Sindh region (What is now Southern Pakistan ) It is more so located in the Punjab area.

As for the crusader states, Lands of St. Thomas is on the wrong coast for its namesake. St Thomas was active in the Kerala region (where you put Tyre). Though I can reasonably believe this was just Europeans not knowing or caring.
 
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Here is a little worlda I decided to make. There is not much lore to it; Imperial Japan's conquering spree in WW2 goes much further. Plenty of countries/regions do have an idea they are built around, though, if you want me to explain.
 
Such a fine set of maps! Apologies if I haven't really commented on any of the covers after the first: I have to look at all the notes and details for each, and it's a touch overwhelming.
I hope you're aware you might have started a new big thing all the mapping cool kids are doing- we’re already discussing s2.
 
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