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Thank you - that was the effect I hoped to produce! :closedeyesmile:

Very cool indeed. Possible addition:

"after their term in office, the dead men would gain new names and were considered "reborn." They would be granted enough land for a new start, from lands set aside by the state for this purpose, and while not held responsible for their actions while dead, were forbidden to speak of or boast of said actions. The only acceptable answer to any questions about their term of office was "I was a dead man then.""
 
@Zurirach Adankar I believe the Danes would not go along with this arrangement. Partially because they theoretically cannot give up Bornholm(though only if people regard the islanders giving the island back to Denmark so long as they were never ceded away binding, versus the treaty the Swedes with the Danes afterwards.), especially for land they didn’t much want that was filled with Germans. But yah, unrealistic map as you said. A colorful one with borders we don’t see on these maps though, and thus a fun one. I zoomed in and so some blue and red on islands off Germany in the Atlantic. Those directly under the British and Americans or are they officially part of Hamburg and Bremen?

Probably, I should create a somewhat more realistic variant in the future (any suggestions for more realism?). Especially the Baaker-Schut plan is in its most radical form insane.
Would it be realistic, that Denmark has to accept a Soviet Naval base on Bornholm while the Island remains Danish territory?

I decided to draw a new Danish border directly south of the Kiel Canal. This gives Denmark control over the access to the Baltic Sea, and the ability to control all sea traffic towards Hamburg. But maybe establishing an autonomous Republic of Schleswig under Danish protection would be a better alternative compared to directly annexing the region.

The Eastern Frisian Islands are largely part of the Netherlands.
The Island of Mellum is now part of the Free City of Bremen (under American Protection/Occupation), while Neuwerk and Nigehörn are part of the Free City of Hamburg (under British Protection/Occupation). Since I have to use an outer layer of American blue and British red, there was no space left for the colors of Bremen and Hamburg.
Mellum is uninhabited, while Neuwerk is traditionally part of Hamburg and has today in OTL a population of 30.

I like the level of detail possible with VT-BAM basemaps.
 
The Caribbeans/ West Indies

History
Alexander Hamilton from The Lesser Antilles was a prominent figure working for the unity of The Caribbeans but the actual process of unification started in his later years. He is remembered as the Father of The Caribbeans. The procedure that led to the unification of the country started in 1792. A few years later, the expansion of the US, the independence of Mexico and Columbia prompted the union of the First Nations and the Europeans of The Caribbeans.

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Economy
Her natural resources and great artisan products defined the base of the economy and the age of tourism added a strong arm to it. Since the XXth century the country is home to several luxory product producing companies; foreign investment is significant due to the relatively low taxes and banking also is an important area of business for the economy.
The country has a vibrant carnival culture and one of the largest casinos in the Americas. The Caribbeans serves as a holiday/ retirement retreat for politicians and celebrities from across the globe.

Democracy
Today The Caribbeans is a first world, stable country and enjoys full democracy.

Political parties of The Caribbeans
Conservative Party: Its origins go back to 1678 and apart from being socially and culturally conservative, it is the most important environmental party today.
Liberal Party: Its origins go back to 1678; the Liberal governments in the XIXth and early XXth century established the political, social and economic liberties of the country.
Democratic Party: Founded in 1942, today the party is mainly focused on discrimination and inclusivity.
Socialist Party: Founded in 1899, Socialist governments managed to tighten the gap between the regional economies and infrastructures and helped strengthen the poorer areas and social groups.
 
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Here are more VT-Bam maps

OTL - occupation zones in Germany and Austria (map lacks the internal divisions of the Soviet Zone in Germany)
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ATL - Polish-Lithuanian Kingdom (After the Central Powers win World War 1, a German puppet monarch manages to become king over both countries, inspired by the HOI4 mod Kaiserreich)
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Kaiserreich - A Pacific Centered World Map
This map was made in Japan in 1936 and translated into English the same year with no further edits.

The most eye-catching distinction between this and typical western maps is that this map is centred on the pacific ocean instead of western Europe.

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Kaiserreich - A Pacific Centered World Map
This map was made in Japan in 1936 and translated into English the same year with no further edits.

The most eye-catching distinction between this and typical western maps is that this map is centred on the pacific ocean instead of western Europe.

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DeviantArt | Tumblr | Twitter

Huh did Kaiserreich have a major update in India?
 
Cross-posting my Map of the Fortnight entry:
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Ruled By The Dead - The Mysterious Thanatocracy of Nelos

“There is an island in the west known as Nelos, whose inhabitants have a most peculiar method of choosing their rulers. It is said that in ancient times, the Nelogians received an oracle which told them their land would remain rich and prosperous as long as none among the living were to rule it. After much thought, their priests gathered all the people of the island together and chose six men by lot. It was declared that these men were now dead - their property was given to their heirs, and their wives were free to remarry. The men were then swathed in gray robes, given masks to hide their faces, and shoes with very thick soles, the purpose of this being to completely disguise their identity. Then they were led away. Three of the six were chosen to be rulers of the island for the next three years, serving as judges and generals, and deciding all laws between them, while the other three were hidden away, only to be brought forth if one of the ruling three were to truly die and need replacement. For if any of the dead men were to reveal his face in public, he would be put to death at once. At the end of the three years, the six men were released, and could not be held to account for anything they had done while dead. Then a new lot of six were chosen to rule for the next three years. This is why Nelos is known as the thanatocracy, for it is ruled by the dead.”

This is what Herodotus wrote, but it is not the only reference to Nelos among the Greeks. Many have drawn a connection between the strange customs of the Nelogians and Odysseus’s visit to the Land of the Dead, also said to lie in the west. There is also a play by Aristophanes, The Nelogians, of which unfortunately only a few fragments survive - it seems to involve a Greek visiting the island who is chosen as one of the thanatocrats, and the absurd schemes he concocts in his efforts to escape Nelos. The Roman writer Cicero of the late Republican period seems to have been familiar with the story told by Herodotus - in one of his speeches, he mentions the “Nelossians” who “being averse to the accumulation of power by any one man, and thus choosing their rulers for a term of service accord them no honors while they reign, nor recognition for their deeds afterwards.” Nor were the ancients the only ones to take the Nelogians as an example - in one of his letters, expressing frustration about the inaction of the Continental Congress, John Adams wrote “I cannot help but be reminded of the Inhabitants of ancient Nelos, who went to such Great Lengths to avoid being placed in Positions of Responsibility that they were ruled by a Jury of Dead Men.”

But despite the many references to its peculiar government, there has been much scholarly debate over where Nelos was located, or if it even existed. Some have proposed Sardinia or Corsica, one or more of the Balearic Isles, the Canaries, or even Britain, West Africa, or the Americas. However, in recent years, attention has been focused on Malta. Between the fourth and the first millennium BC, the island was home to a unique megalith-building culture, and at some of the later megalith sites, archeologists have discovered depictions of robed and veiled figures that call to mind Herodotus’s descriptions. The culture seems to have been on the decline when the Phoenicians arrived around 700 BC, possibly due to an extended period of drought. Any survivors may have been assimilated by the newcomers. Phoenician records are sparse, but a recent discovery at an excavation in Tyre appears to describe a ship having reached “MLTH in NLJ.” This suggests a possible link between Nelos and the island that would one day be called Malta, whose name comes from the Phoenician word meleth, meaning “safe haven.”

Did a few traces of the lost megalithic culture survive to inspire Herodotus and Aristophanes? Or were they drawing on tales passed down from Homeric-era contacts with the island that remain unsubstantiated by the archeological record? Or was Nelos as fictional as Plato’s Atlantis? No one can say for sure, but perhaps future discoveries will shed more light on this enigmatic civilization.

I echo what others say, and this is really interesting, from Nelos to the idea of an thanatocracy and it backstory and whatever, or not it existed to modern peoples and proof being discoverer to support Nelos.
 
The Caribbeans/ West Indies

I like this a lot! The only issue I have is I don’t see why English would seem be the primary language of administration, to the point where Cuba, Hispaniola and Puerto Rico adopt it as co-official while having a negligible Anglophone population, when both Spanish and French would probably have more speakers in this Federation.
 
I like this a lot! The only issue I have is I don’t see why English would seem be the primary language of administration, to the point where Cuba, Hispaniola and Puerto Rico adopt it as co-official while having a negligible Anglophone population, when both Spanish and French would probably have more speakers in this Federation.
English and Spanish run head to head more or less I would think but I understand the problem. Cuba was under US protection for a couple of years, English is still a lingua franca and the US would have just as much influence on the country as mainland Spanish-speaking countries.

Very lovely map and interesting scenario, but I think that Cuba's Executive and Head Executive positions are supposed to be "of Cuba" and not "of the Caribbeans"
The common parliament is located in Cuba so they don't need autonomy.
 
Probably, I should create a somewhat more realistic variant in the future (any suggestions for more realism?). Especially the Baaker-Schut plan is in its most radical form insane.
Would it be realistic, that Denmark has to accept a Soviet Naval base on Bornholm while the Island remains Danish territory?

I decided to draw a new Danish border directly south of the Kiel Canal. This gives Denmark control over the access to the Baltic Sea, and the ability to control all sea traffic towards Hamburg. But maybe establishing an autonomous Republic of Schleswig under Danish protection would be a better alternative compared to directly annexing the region.

The Eastern Frisian Islands are largely part of the Netherlands.
The Island of Mellum is now part of the Free City of Bremen (under American Protection/Occupation), while Neuwerk and Nigehörn are part of the Free City of Hamburg (under British Protection/Occupation). Since I have to use an outer layer of American blue and British red, there was no space left for the colors of Bremen and Hamburg.
Mellum is uninhabited, while Neuwerk is traditionally part of Hamburg and has today in OTL a population of 30.

I like the level of detail possible with VT-BAM basemaps.
Soviet base on Bornholm? If they have the other islands directly a part of Soviet territory, they may not even need that island. Doing what they did IOTL where they got it agreed that Danes would be the only troops on the island worked quite well for them. Evacuating Bornholm might be part of the reason the Soviets would be allowed to annex some of the German islands here, as they are too far from the border for them to have realistically occupied themselves. I think Belgium realistically should be able to claim more land, though as they would have wanted stuff the Dutch had before the war, or at least the areas of Germany Belgium occupied after WWI, it wouldn’t be the most practical. Apparently the Dutch claimed all that land because they would not get monetary compensation, but expelling so many people would still be an issue. I can see them maybe trying to get the former Julich-Cleves-Berg-Mark and Cologne area independent and moving suck to their old, very Dutch languages. Having the Rhur independent but very much in the Benelux orbit would be in their favor, and could be used as a counterweight against French dominance further south. Hmmm, how do you think you will go with reparations in this world though? Soviets still snagging a huge chunk of the industrial goods due to treaties? And what borders do you see East Germany claiming?
 
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