'Bout time someone made a decent map of FAT. The last one was by Bruce like 10 years ago.
Is this an alternate timeline? If I get my dates right, China really shouldn't be in one piece in the 80s.
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Is this an alternate timeline? If I get my dates right, China really shouldn't be in one piece in the 80s.
KapiTod
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Ah, sorry to disappoint. This is an alternate timeline.
With France, it's that after Bokassa gets offed the military installs a "Liberal Democratic Republic" in the line of Belgium and Portugal. It seemed to make sense since a lot of the dissatisfied French army were on the border with Belgium and without much oversight from Paris, giving opportunities for officers to learn what their Belgian opposite numbers are getting up to. Also the Second French Civil War doesn't do much but pave the way for the Germans to start rising up, this way it puts a whole new angle onto things which I shall elaborate on.
Ya noticed China. Little thing I learnt, Lin Biao in FaT is inaccurate. I assume that Chester A. Arthur had much more limited resources and information than I do now, cause looking into Lin Biao he seems more like a military man that Mao liked and started giving jobs, like being put in charge of the Cultural Revolution, and when he started to push back (like criticising Jiang Qing) he got knocked off by one of his rivals. The TLs image of a man spreading nuclear terrorism and doing [REDACTED] to his people doesn't fit with what I've found. Hell one study claims he was in contact with Taiwan about launching a coup.
So I've reinterpreted. Lin and Zhou Enlai knock off Mao after Argentina goes spicy since they're worried he's going to try and start something with the Russians again, or worse, the Americans (so later than the canon). Whilst you'd be right in thinking this is actually pretty good for the Chinese people their reforms aren't going to do so well in the long-term. For now though they keep China as the main supporter of left-wing uprisings like in canon, with the goal of forming an alliance of anti-Soviet communist (preferably Maoist but what can ya do?) nations to topple the USSRs monoply of power. So one thing they end up doing is reaching out to the "Euro-communists" of Western Europe, providing themselves with independently powerful, nuclear armed allies on the Soviets western flank, even if France and Spain are rather beaten up.
These two decisions mean that the 1970s doesn't see the random nuclear destruction and fuckery of the canon timeline, but instead a sharp heating up of tensions between the Soviets and the Chinese across Africa and Eurasia. The American people wake up to see that half the gosh-darn map is red, and the socialist cabals of Moscow and Peking are dividing up what's left/getting ready to destroy the world (depends who you ask). By golly they just can't just sit back and let Wang and Ivan have their way, they need to elect a President who can get things DONE!
And thus we see the dawning of the Cold War under President Charles Manson!
What's happening to the Netherlands, Scandinavia, Oman, Thailand, and the Philippians?
The Hungarians, the closest to the rogue Balkan power marched to cut them down to size, only for its main army to be crushed on the field. The deaths of King Andrew II and the titular Bela IV of Hungary caused a massive power vaccum in the already disorganized and unstable Kingdom. With its army destroyed, Tsar Kaloyan was free to march in and annex Transylvania reclaiming much of the land held by his predecessors who ruled the First Bulgarian Empire. The shock of this defeat at the hands of Kaloyan collectively stunned Europe. With Tsar Kaloyan riding high after defeating his enemies on all sides Bulgaria sits at its zenith in what looks like the start of a Golden Age for Bulgaria. But across the Hellespont the Komnenians lie in waiting, preparing for a strike when the right opportunity presents itself. Though word from the Far East speak of a Massive Pagan horde conquering its way across Central Asia and the Eurasian Steppe.
This is a proof of concept for my timeline The House of Komenos, Like a Phoenix From the Ashes: An Eastern Roman Timeline. I highly recommend checking it out. While I haven't got this far in terms of updates. Once of finish my exams after this week, I'll start churning out updates for this and my Napoleon II timeline: Imperator Francorum. I decided to make this map because I'm in such a good mood after passing the first of my exams.
Anyway, stay safe and stay healthy everyone!
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A1: United Scandinavian Kingdoms (est. 1848, current year 1920)
The United Scandinavian Kingdoms, self-styling itself as a successor to the Kalmar Union, were formed by the rise of Scandinavian nationalism in the middle of the 19th century as a reform of the Kingdom of Denmark-Norway-Götaland, which was created when the Kingdom of Sweden was partitioned between Denmark and Russia after the French Revolutionary Wars. Since its founding Iceland has become its own kingdom after having been part of Norway, while the Faroe Islands and Schleswig-Holstein have become semi-automous duchies distinct from the four kingdoms. Sweden, for the record, has recently gained independence from Russia as an independent republic.
A2: Kingdom of the Danes (est. 1780, current year 1900)
The result of the liberalisation of Denmark in the Constitutional Age, the Kingdom of the Danes is a prosperous state with some colonies in the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Its German possessions are autonomous but unrest there is growing, calling now for unification with the German Free State to the south, which has recently shaken off the yoke of the petty kings who ruled Germany during the Holy Roman Empire days. While Copenhagen has a sizable military, its southern neighbor has a bigger base population and enjoys good relations with Sweden, which has long since desired the island of Gotland and access to the North Sea...
A3: Danish Realm (est. 1955, current year 2019)
After losing Norway, including its historic colonies of Iceland, Greenland, and the Faroe Islands, at the end of the Napoleonic Wars, Copenhagen had gained the formerly Swedish portion of Pommerania. Due to a continueing instability in the German lands down south, Denmark was able to keep its German possessions, especially after granting them greater autonomy in the 1860s. After decolonization in the mid-20th century, the Kingdom of Denmark reformed itself into the Danish Realm, giving essentially co-equal status with autonomy for not only its German possessions of Holstein, Vorpommern, and Schleswig, but also its two remaining colonies: the Nicobar Islands and the Danish Virgin Islands. The Danish Realm is a member of the Central European Trade and Travel Agreement (CETTA), which also includes most of the German states, Belgium and the Netherlands.
The United Scandinavian Kingdoms, self-styling itself as a successor to the Kalmar Union, were formed by the rise of Scandinavian nationalism in the middle of the 19th century as a reform of the Kingdom of Denmark-Norway-Götaland, which was created when the Kingdom of Sweden was partitioned between Denmark and Russia after the French Revolutionary Wars. Since its founding Iceland has become its own kingdom after having been part of Norway, while the Faroe Islands and Schleswig-Holstein have become semi-automous duchies distinct from the four kingdoms. Sweden, for the record, has recently gained independence from Russia as an independent republic.
A2: Kingdom of the Danes (est. 1780, current year 1900)
The result of the liberalisation of Denmark in the Constitutional Age, the Kingdom of the Danes is a prosperous state with some colonies in the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Its German possessions are autonomous but unrest there is growing, calling now for unification with the German Free State to the south, which has recently shaken off the yoke of the petty kings who ruled Germany during the Holy Roman Empire days. While Copenhagen has a sizable military, its southern neighbor has a bigger base population and enjoys good relations with Sweden, which has long since desired the island of Gotland and access to the North Sea...
A3: Danish Realm (est. 1955, current year 2019)
After losing Norway, including its historic colonies of Iceland, Greenland, and the Faroe Islands, at the end of the Napoleonic Wars, Copenhagen had gained the formerly Swedish portion of Pommerania. Due to a continueing instability in the German lands down south, Denmark was able to keep its German possessions, especially after granting them greater autonomy in the 1860s. After decolonization in the mid-20th century, the Kingdom of Denmark reformed itself into the Danish Realm, giving essentially co-equal status with autonomy for not only its German possessions of Holstein, Vorpommern, and Schleswig, but also its two remaining colonies: the Nicobar Islands and the Danish Virgin Islands. The Danish Realm is a member of the Central European Trade and Travel Agreement (CETTA), which also includes most of the German states, Belgium and the Netherlands.
B1: North Sea Empire (est. 1013, current year 1120)
This thalassocratic state dominates Northern Europe thanks to its access to the strategic English Channel and the three gates to the Baltic Sea: the Skagerrak, Kattegat, and the Danish Straits. This Norse-led state has been busy Christianizing, but its future remains uncertain due to local forces in Norway and southern England threatening the splintering of the empire. But even if the state would shrink into Denmark and northern England, it'd still be a formidable force in European trade and an important ally in the task of converting the heathen peoples of the Baltic Sea into Christians.
B2: Dano-Wendish Kingdom (est. 1802, current year 1920)
Denmark and the Slavic peoples of the Baltic south coast, often referred to as the Wendland, were in frequent contact during the 10th to 12th century, and ultimately the Danish would conquer the region in the middle of the 12th century in order to ensure Christianity's expansion into the region and to secure Denmark proper from Slavic raiders. Over time these Slavic people would become somewhat assimilated into Danish culture, but keeping certain elements of their culture alive. In the 18th century the Wends experienced a cultural revival, just like the Czechs did in German-controlled Bohemia, and Denmark, in an effort to keep control over the area, actually agreed to give the Wendish lands free rule in a perpetual personal and political union with Denmark proper, instead of being under central rule.
The Dano-Wendish Kingdom is a significant player in Northern European politics and is the smallest European state to have successfully established colonies in the New World.
B3: Kingdom of (West) Denmark (est. 1945, current year 1988)
While of course a continuation of the Kingdom of Denmark, one of the oldest states of Europe, West Denmark is commonly used to refer to the period of history between 1945 and 1988, during which Denmark first sold Greenland to the United States and the island of Bornholm was first occupied by the Soviet Union and then spun off as the Democratic Republic of Bornholm, a communist client state serving predominantly as a Soviet naval base. West Denmark was a period of a rightward shift in Danish politics, of close cooperation between Copenhagen & NATO, and of massive investment by allied nations like the US and the UK. It was the period which saw the rise of the LEGO Group as an international powerhouse of toys and entertainment, but it also saw Denmark as an international embarassment for its frequent crackdowns on left-wing and immigrant-led groups. In 1988, as one of the earliest parts of the Soviet collapse, Bornholm's regime lost power and its replacement government launched a successful plebiscite on reunification with Denmark, ending the West Denmark period.
This thalassocratic state dominates Northern Europe thanks to its access to the strategic English Channel and the three gates to the Baltic Sea: the Skagerrak, Kattegat, and the Danish Straits. This Norse-led state has been busy Christianizing, but its future remains uncertain due to local forces in Norway and southern England threatening the splintering of the empire. But even if the state would shrink into Denmark and northern England, it'd still be a formidable force in European trade and an important ally in the task of converting the heathen peoples of the Baltic Sea into Christians.
B2: Dano-Wendish Kingdom (est. 1802, current year 1920)
Denmark and the Slavic peoples of the Baltic south coast, often referred to as the Wendland, were in frequent contact during the 10th to 12th century, and ultimately the Danish would conquer the region in the middle of the 12th century in order to ensure Christianity's expansion into the region and to secure Denmark proper from Slavic raiders. Over time these Slavic people would become somewhat assimilated into Danish culture, but keeping certain elements of their culture alive. In the 18th century the Wends experienced a cultural revival, just like the Czechs did in German-controlled Bohemia, and Denmark, in an effort to keep control over the area, actually agreed to give the Wendish lands free rule in a perpetual personal and political union with Denmark proper, instead of being under central rule.
The Dano-Wendish Kingdom is a significant player in Northern European politics and is the smallest European state to have successfully established colonies in the New World.
B3: Kingdom of (West) Denmark (est. 1945, current year 1988)
While of course a continuation of the Kingdom of Denmark, one of the oldest states of Europe, West Denmark is commonly used to refer to the period of history between 1945 and 1988, during which Denmark first sold Greenland to the United States and the island of Bornholm was first occupied by the Soviet Union and then spun off as the Democratic Republic of Bornholm, a communist client state serving predominantly as a Soviet naval base. West Denmark was a period of a rightward shift in Danish politics, of close cooperation between Copenhagen & NATO, and of massive investment by allied nations like the US and the UK. It was the period which saw the rise of the LEGO Group as an international powerhouse of toys and entertainment, but it also saw Denmark as an international embarassment for its frequent crackdowns on left-wing and immigrant-led groups. In 1988, as one of the earliest parts of the Soviet collapse, Bornholm's regime lost power and its replacement government launched a successful plebiscite on reunification with Denmark, ending the West Denmark period.
C1: Kingdom of Denmark-Norway (est. 1523, current year 1973)
Denmark-Norway is a maritime powerhouse which, despite the occasional setbacks, has managed to be an important force in European politics and international trade for more than 400 years. It is a vast constitutional monarchy with a centralized system of government, despite how distant cities like Reykjavik, Hammerfest, Trondheim and Torshaven are from its national capital in Copenhagen. However Denmark-Norway does make it easy for its minority languages to be taught in schools, however Danish serves as the country's lingua franca. Denmark-Norway also maintained a few colonies outside of its integrated ones throughout the years. Of them only Greenland and the Virgin Islands remain, which today have limited self-government abilities.
C2: Duchy of Jutland (est. ~6th century, current year 1001)
The exact origins of the Duchy of Jutland have been lost to time, but it is known that Jutish and Anglish tribesmen lived in the area before a sizable number of them left to invade southern Britannia with the Saxons, forming what would later become known as England. Through migration Danes also settled in the area but were eventually assimilated by the Jutes, just as the Danish Islands would eventually become a backwater of Gotland when the Gotes conquered that region in the early 9th century. The Duchy of Jutland ceased to be an independent entity in 1002, when it was conquered annexed by the Holy Roman Empire after the duke, Cenfus II, was excommunicated by the Pope. After that Jutland would end up becoming culturally assimiliated into the more Saxon-influenced culture common within the north of the Holy Roman Empire.
C3: Danish Republic (est. 1871, current year 2011)
The rise of the labor movement in Denmark would end up spelling the end of the Danish monarchy. While limited constitutionalism was practiced in the country since 1848, the short-lived Paris Commune actually inspired socialists and republicans in Denmark to rise up and eventually remove the crown of the House of Glücksburg, with the royal family going into exile in East Anglia. The young republic would end up selling most of Greenland to the UK in 1910 (after ceding parts of the island to Norway a few years prior to celebrate Norway freeing itself from Swedish rule) and exchange the Danish Virgin Islands with Germany in exchange for bits of northern Schleswig in 1912. In 1921, to celebrate fifty years of Danish republicanism, the flag was changed into its modern form. The Danish Republic now is a prosperous state and it follows a federal model, which has made the government quite popular in far-flung Iceland and the Faroe Islands. It is politically dominated by left-wing politics, is very secular, and has good relations with all of its neighbors.
Denmark-Norway is a maritime powerhouse which, despite the occasional setbacks, has managed to be an important force in European politics and international trade for more than 400 years. It is a vast constitutional monarchy with a centralized system of government, despite how distant cities like Reykjavik, Hammerfest, Trondheim and Torshaven are from its national capital in Copenhagen. However Denmark-Norway does make it easy for its minority languages to be taught in schools, however Danish serves as the country's lingua franca. Denmark-Norway also maintained a few colonies outside of its integrated ones throughout the years. Of them only Greenland and the Virgin Islands remain, which today have limited self-government abilities.
C2: Duchy of Jutland (est. ~6th century, current year 1001)
The exact origins of the Duchy of Jutland have been lost to time, but it is known that Jutish and Anglish tribesmen lived in the area before a sizable number of them left to invade southern Britannia with the Saxons, forming what would later become known as England. Through migration Danes also settled in the area but were eventually assimilated by the Jutes, just as the Danish Islands would eventually become a backwater of Gotland when the Gotes conquered that region in the early 9th century. The Duchy of Jutland ceased to be an independent entity in 1002, when it was conquered annexed by the Holy Roman Empire after the duke, Cenfus II, was excommunicated by the Pope. After that Jutland would end up becoming culturally assimiliated into the more Saxon-influenced culture common within the north of the Holy Roman Empire.
C3: Danish Republic (est. 1871, current year 2011)
The rise of the labor movement in Denmark would end up spelling the end of the Danish monarchy. While limited constitutionalism was practiced in the country since 1848, the short-lived Paris Commune actually inspired socialists and republicans in Denmark to rise up and eventually remove the crown of the House of Glücksburg, with the royal family going into exile in East Anglia. The young republic would end up selling most of Greenland to the UK in 1910 (after ceding parts of the island to Norway a few years prior to celebrate Norway freeing itself from Swedish rule) and exchange the Danish Virgin Islands with Germany in exchange for bits of northern Schleswig in 1912. In 1921, to celebrate fifty years of Danish republicanism, the flag was changed into its modern form. The Danish Republic now is a prosperous state and it follows a federal model, which has made the government quite popular in far-flung Iceland and the Faroe Islands. It is politically dominated by left-wing politics, is very secular, and has good relations with all of its neighbors.
Hey man thanks for the feedback, It was very educational for me
If you want to do something with this setting then GO! No one owns history
I'm just very happy that people found my work fun
KapiTod
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No, the Jerusalem League broke up after Nasser died in the mid-70s, splitting between the Gulf states and Med states. It was a very messy break up, leading to low yield nukes being used by the KSA on Amman to halt the Syria spearhead and by Iran on Baghdad in their limited intervention in Iraq.
The pink states in central Africa are Soviet backed regimes that haven't been brought into the CPSD yet. The Soviets and Maghrebi French split the Bokassa loyalists.
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Bit off with Palestine, though. I know both Syria and Egypt would have been happy for a bit of extra land, but not the entire country. Especially given they had hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to be taken care of.
800AD
I made some changes. Unspecified conditions in China drew much of the proto-Turkic peoples eastward instead of west, resulting in a quieter pontic steppe and a slavic ethnogenesis that saw far more input from increasingly sedentary Iranic tribes. Once in awhile a tribal confederation would smash into Central Asia and North India, but there was none of the massive migratory waves as seen IOTL. That changed ITTL with the recent movement of Yeniseian peoples, themselves driven by Tungusic harassment (Jurchens, maybe?).
Green (Europe) - Insular Celtic / North Celtic / South Celtic / Italo-Celtic
Grey - North Germanic / Central Germanic / East Germanic
Yellow - West Slovenin / East Slovenin / Sarmatian
Red (Europe) - Punic
Light Brown - Amazigh
Yellow (Africa) - West African / Central African / East African
Light Blue - Hellenic / Dacian
Green (Arabia) - Alexandrian / Arabian
Orange - Iranian
Blue - Indo-Aryan / Dravidian
Green (Asia) - Tibeto-Burman
Red (Asia)) - Yeniseian
Pink - Finnic / Ugric
Druwidos - Caste-based, ossified, and losing ground to the Hellenic religions that provide far easier paths to a favorable rebirth (or an escape from the cycle altogether).
Forn Si'r - Traditional Germanic faiths.
Suomenusko - Traditional Uralic faiths.
Starivery - Traditional Slavic faiths.
Hamuni - Once polytheistic, now entirely centered around the worship of Baal Hammon. It's the odd one out in a Mediterranean dominated by faiths that are both polytheistic and accepting of reincarnation.
Oikoumene Dharme - A wide swath of traditions that draw from local pantheons, traditional Dharmic religions, and Hellenic philosophy. The discriminating factor between this grouping and the other Dharmic traditions is their uniting belief that Alexander Megalos is a Buddha, a diety, or otherwise worthy of worship.
Sramana Dharma - Jainism, Buddhism, and Vedic traditions.
Bon - Traditional Tibetan faiths, collected under this slightly-anachronistic term.
Yehudi - Judaism.
Al-mu-minin - Traditional Arabian faiths.
Tengricilik - Shamanistic, pantheistic steppe faiths.
Khwarenah - A monotheistic religion that draws heavily from the largely-extinct Mazdan religions. People have one life in which to find and fulfill the purpose God has laid out for them, after which they are consigned to the afterlife they've earned through their actions. Reincarnation and foreign deities are lies and demons that threaten to condemn one to hell for eternity. Fire and water play significant symbolic roles.
Kel Tagelmust - A gnostic(?) faith born from punicized Berbers that recognizes the existence of multiple good creator Gods and one evil destructive force (often identified with Hammon). Draws on Dharmic faiths in a superficial manner - there is no Nirvana, enlightenment, or escape from the cycle of rebirths. Worshipers can achieve favorable rebirths by several means, though different sects will emphasize different paths. All faithful agree that the best way is to act in accordance with the divine plan laid out by the Gods. By doing so, one may eventually be reborn as a God, and join in crafting the divine plan.
Harikanne/Boorii/Dunyabatteh/Oferi/Waaqeffanna - Traditional Sub-Saharan African faiths.
I gave this another go. Again, 800AD.
Danparic - A loose linguistic grouping that originated between the Dnieper and the Dniester. The Huns never smashed into the burgeoning Chernyakhov culture and pushing westward the people who would become the Goths. Their later spread largely overtook what would otherwise have been the Slavic expansion. Back-migration towards the Baltic coast absorbed the Eastern Germanic peoples.
Tripetris - Worship of a triune godhead and reincarnation (with escape from the cycle not being a consideration). Dominated by a Druidic class, and fractured into innumerable sects that endlessly debate the precise nature of the triple deity's relationship. An anti-Druidic reformation originated on the banks of the Rhine among the semi-urbanized Germanic peoples, which declares the unitary nature of the All-Father and the subordinate nature of his godly son, Toranes. Unity with the All-Father is only achievable with his son as intermediary.
Nirīśvaravāda - A Vedic religion that declares the wheel of rebirth to be operated by malicious beings seeking to keep souls trapped in the cycle for eternity. The orthodox traditions state that all gods (except for the unconditioned Godhead) are such malicious beings, as are many humans. Most humans are not malicious, but simply incapable of awakening in this lifetime, and must be avoided. Heretical sects assert the existence of certain beneficent gods (small-g), while others incorporate aforementioned strata of human beings into societal caste systems.
Nirīśvaravāda - A Vedic religion that declares the wheel of rebirth to be operated by malicious beings seeking to keep souls trapped in the cycle for eternity. The orthodox traditions state that all gods (except for the unconditioned Godhead) are such malicious beings, as are many humans. Most humans are not malicious, but simply incapable of awakening in this lifetime, and must be avoided. Heretical sects assert the existence of certain beneficent gods (small-g), while others incorporate aforementioned strata of human beings into societal caste systems.
I'm assuming that Toranes is a mixture of Taranis and Thunraz/Thor/Thunor
It does seem a bit Christian, with the Germanics adhering to a sort of Protestant-ish-ish-ish anti-clerical type thing.
It does seem a bit Christian, with the Germanics adhering to a sort of Protestant-ish-ish-ish anti-clerical type thing.
KapiTod
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This is For all Time, Syria and Egypt split Palestine almost entirely, with both Lebanon and Jordan getting little scrags.
Yes I know it doesn't make sense, but check out Anatolia, or the Iranian border, there's a bunch of super weird border changes in the TL but I didn't have the heart to remove these classic examples of AH fuckery.
Here's the og timeline if you've not read it before/recently. https://www.alternatehistory.com/foralltime/
I gave this another go. Again, 800AD.
Danparic - A loose linguistic grouping that originated between the Dnieper and the Dniester. The Huns never smashed into the burgeoning Chernyakhov culture and pushing westward the people who would become the Goths. Their later spread largely overtook what would otherwise have been the Slavic expansion. Back-migration towards the Baltic coast absorbed the Eastern Germanic peoples.
Tripetris - Worship of a triune godhead and reincarnation (with escape from the cycle not being a consideration). Dominated by a Druidic class, and fractured into innumerable sects that endlessly debate the precise nature of the triple deity's relationship. An anti-Druidic reformation originated on the banks of the Rhine among the semi-urbanized Germanic peoples, which declares the unitary nature of the All-Father and the subordinate nature of his godly son, Toranes. Unity with the All-Father is only achievable with his son as intermediary.
Nirīśvaravāda - A Vedic religion that declares the wheel of rebirth to be operated by malicious beings seeking to keep souls trapped in the cycle for eternity. The orthodox traditions state that all gods (except for the unconditioned Godhead) are such malicious beings, as are many humans. Most humans are not malicious, but simply incapable of awakening in this lifetime, and must be avoided. Heretical sects assert the existence of certain beneficent gods (small-g), while others incorporate aforementioned strata of human beings into societal caste systems.
Ah hell yeah, I love triple-faceted Celtic deities.
Your Atlanto-Celtic is a bit broad though. Brythonic probably had more in common with Gallic than with Gaelic, if ya pardon the pun.
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This was always the OTL plan. Egypt and Syria gave some lip-service to Palestinian independence, but Jordan's annexation of the West Bank speaks for itself and Egypt dissolved the nominally independent government in Gaza in the 50s.
Zionists losing the the war doesn't mean an independent Palestine, it means Egypt and Syria sharing a border (unless Jordan gets a corridor to the sea).
Don't forget that modern Palestinian national identity developed largely as a response to Zionism and the Nakba; it's very plausible that it would not develop nearly as strongly under Arab rule. This is especially for rule by Syria, since Syrian nationalism in the region predates Palestinian nationalism, with the latter largely a reaction to the perception that Europe would never let the region join Syria "like it should".
It's amazing how much of an asshole toothache can be when it wants to. I'd planned on making even more variants of this map than I have here already and a substantial backstory written up. Once I can string more than an hour of being able to think clearly in a row hopefully that can happen.
To summarise, this is straightup alternate world rather than Earth or alt-Earth. Pehleiawaikkan is a temperate/subtropical archipelago that's been inhabited by the Waikkan peoples for around three millenia (though ruins of their precursors turn up fairly often and are a major area of study in the islands). The present date in my head is the equivalent of some nebulous point in the 20th century, technology wise. I suppose that about makes it Miyazaki AD... The language of the Waikkan is agglutinative, and utilises prefixes to represent the definite article for different noun classes, so the first syllable of a lot of what's on the map can be quite similar; a piece of ocean geography will generally have the prefix o, a name of a land or region will begin with a, a political body's name will often begin with ne/na, etc etc. In general I was going for a feel of an agglutinative North American language like Cree or one of the Athabascan languages but with a little bit of Polynesian, and in a generally more Pacific-esque setting. I still intend to flesh all of this out a lot more.
I made quite a lot of variants of this map, I've only put in a main trio. The rest that are currently uploaded can be found on my deviantart.
This is the original and 'main' map in terms of the rest of the series.
To summarise, this is straightup alternate world rather than Earth or alt-Earth. Pehleiawaikkan is a temperate/subtropical archipelago that's been inhabited by the Waikkan peoples for around three millenia (though ruins of their precursors turn up fairly often and are a major area of study in the islands). The present date in my head is the equivalent of some nebulous point in the 20th century, technology wise. I suppose that about makes it Miyazaki AD... The language of the Waikkan is agglutinative, and utilises prefixes to represent the definite article for different noun classes, so the first syllable of a lot of what's on the map can be quite similar; a piece of ocean geography will generally have the prefix o, a name of a land or region will begin with a, a political body's name will often begin with ne/na, etc etc. In general I was going for a feel of an agglutinative North American language like Cree or one of the Athabascan languages but with a little bit of Polynesian, and in a generally more Pacific-esque setting. I still intend to flesh all of this out a lot more.
I made quite a lot of variants of this map, I've only put in a main trio. The rest that are currently uploaded can be found on my deviantart.
This is the original and 'main' map in terms of the rest of the series.
This is a map showing historical states around three centuries before the present date.
And this is a relatively simple bathymetric map of the archipelago.
Great to see another 'So and So nations.'
Of the Denmarks, I'm not sure which one I like the most. A: 1, the USK, A2: Kingdom of the Danes, and C1: Kingdom of Denmark-Norway, are I think the ones I like the most.
But B3: Kingdom of (West) Denmark is also cool for it part in the Cold War, same for the older ones.
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No problem, I'm always happy to help, and honestly, I'm glad it was even coherent enough for you to understand. I made one mistake, I think I said great was Zhou, I misread, it is Zhuo, though the romanization to Jo still stands.
You're obviously right that no one owns history, but there are people that would rather not see their PODs or generally similar PODs used by others, so thanks for letting me do so.
And finally, of course people enjoyed your work, it's rally good. Also, it covers a fairly obscure/rarely mentioned group, which I think many people on this site are drawn to.
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