No offense but the name Karl Marx was mentioned in a write up pertaining to a map. The debate wasn't really about Marxism or ideology. It seemed mostly to be about how an Alt-communist state lead by Marx probably wouldn't ally with literal slavers and being racist. It was a debate about plausibility of a part of a map. Not a debate ideological/political in nature.
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No offense but the name Karl Marx was mentioned in a write up pertaining to a map. The debate wasn't really about Marxism or ideology. It seemed mostly to be about how an Alt-communist state lead by Marx probably wouldn't ally with literal slavers and being racist. It was a debate about plausibility of a part of a map. Not a debate ideological/political in nature.
Are we allowed to do anything in threads besides the literal topic of the thread? These restrictions seem to be ever expanding.
Arguing about a different version of Marx is fairly well out of bounds.
To get back on topic, does anyone have one of those Worlda style solar system basemaps?
Sure you can make a cover, no problem. The three-barrel name is sort of a joke, playing on the fact that we have Poland-Hungary-Bavaria-Bohemia-Croatia: I was thinking of making a hyphenated Brandenburg as well (Brandenburg-Julich?) but ran out of energy.
As I said, it just started as a joke about big Polands that don't include Lithuania. But there certainly were a bunch of odd temporary dynastic unions in Eastern Europe of the 15th century.
The basemap I was using is over 2 megs, too big to post: I'll try and find a temporary place to put it up so you can get it.
I'm gonna have to call BS on this one. Discussing the plausibility of a scenario is well within the bounds of the map thread. That the discussion just happened to revolve around Marx does not mean that people were talking politics without provocation. I fail to see the problem. What would be the right thread then? Is anything political having to do with a map suddenly out of bounds? Where is the line drawn?
So in TTL the mercian supremcay transforms into a united anglo-saxon kingdom, this kingdom comes to dominate britain, ireland and through a political marriage frisia is also brought under the control of the anglo-saxons.
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Should we make a 'Political Maps Thread' in Chat then if we want our maps to include these figures?
This seems a little arbitrary and kind of ridiculous.
It wasn't the map that brought out the bear in the Calbear, it was the subsequent argument. As long as a map isn't a clear poke at current-day politics, inclusion of controversial historical figures is still fine, I'd think.
Eh, they're not really. They're discussed alternative historical forms of a man's developing ideology. I mean, you're the boss, but it seems the correspondence is civil, topic-related, and progressing. Anywhoo, cheers.
Edit. Ah, seeing the timestamp and latest posts now. Ignore me.
Did you make this one? Just so I know whether or not to comment. Either way, gotta love the Velakrivian flag. So sweatery.
Yes I made this one
And I like the Velakrivian flag too
To hopefully put things back in track, I dug up an old map I made a year ago. Most of the things in this map have since changed, however the concept remains the same. This map exists in the same universe as with the maps I posted before.
Following the Second Soviet War and the civil war that came after that, the lands east of the UVR have been embroiled in a series of sporadic conflicts known as the East European Conflicts, from the Caucasus to the Arctic. The Ruthenian Republic would join the UVR fearing an invasion from still-communist Ukraine. As for the Ukrainian People's Republic, their situation rapidly degraded as the Eastern European Military and Economic Pact sanctioned the remaining communist nations in the former USSR following a series of attacks across the border. Democratic protests engulfed the nation in mid-2002, calling for another election after the re-election of the current Premier since many suspected that the votes were rigged. The military suppressed many of these riots, but a few of the leaders of the riots managed to leave the nation before they got caught.
The Ukrainian government demanded that the nations who accepted them (UVR, Crimea, and Russia), return the leaders to be tried in Ukrainian courts. The three nations responded with harsher sanctions and granted the protest leaders asylum, ensuring their safety. In the heat of the moment, Ukrainian soldiers unknowingly crossed the Crimean border in search of one the protest leaders and got into an incident with a Crimean border patrol resulting in casualties from both sides. Seen as a declaration of war, the EEMEP nations (of which Crimea was a member of) invaded Ukraine. Long story short, the democratic protesters united under the Ukrainian Democratic Army and occupied large portions of the countryside. A splinter faction of the Workers' Party of Ukraine rebelled against the government, with the backing of decent portions of the Red Army. Russians in the Donbass region, supported by the Tsardom, managed to break away and form their own state.
After a few months of conflict, representatives of all concerned parties met at Zaporizhia to end the conflict. The treaty was signed on November 17, with small chunks of Ukrainian border territory ceded to neighboring nations, and the Donbass remaining independent. The Ukrainian Confederation succeeded the former government, with the oblasts divided between the Democratic Army and the Workers' Party. Kiev was occupied by International Alliance soldiers, although the city remained in Ukrainian hands. The treaty also saw an end to the sanctions, beginning an era of peace to Eastern Europe.
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