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The rainbow in the sky was a promise that the earth shan't be flooded again, but the rise of conflict between the Atlanteans, the proud Nimrod and his empire, the Seven Cities, and the last non-Noahide survivors brings even God to wonder if, perhaps, he should have considered the job complete.



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many thanks to all the people that have made the maps I stole borrowed from to make this
 
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I made this ages ago on a similar premise to the others recently posted

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Yes, I can seee th main issue, that probably got lost in time back when you made it. Mostly about Oldenburg being a part of the UK Proper. Mostly as I would imagine that meant a relation to the Holstein dynasties, and thus wanting Holstein as well, or joining it to Hanover and Brunswick. Really though, I love reading up on the various dynastic succession possibilities over there. Apparently Victoria’s second son Alfred became Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha because his older brother renounced rights to it years before. Imagine those specks as the Cardinal pink you show on is map.
 
Crossposting from MOTF 210:





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Oh hello there darkest part of our national history x'D

This is extremely cursed and I'd like it to highlight the amount of ethnic cleansing it likely involved a bit more. How did it end up independent from France? Did the metropole grow bored of supporting the Pied Noirs' rule? Because without divergence, there was little interest in independence from their side.
 
In my English 2 class, we are reading Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi. The story is about her childhood in Iran during the Islamic Revolution. It inspired me to make this map, of an alternate history where the Islamic Revolution turned into a full-blown Iranian Civil War.
POD: 1979
Current date: January 1, 1984
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Factions of the civil war:
Yellow-Green: Islamic Revolutionary Army
Mustard Yellow: Republic of Iran
Raspberry Red: Iranian People's Army
Other things to note:
Iraq annexes Khuzestan(1982)
Iranian Kurdistan and Azerbaijan declare independence(1981)
Soviets defeat Afghanistan(1981)​
 
Oh hello there darkest part of our national history x'D

This is extremely cursed and I'd like it to highlight the amount of ethnic cleansing it likely involved a bit more. How did it end up independent from France? Did the metropole grow bored of supporting the Pied Noirs' rule? Because without divergence, there was little interest in independence from their side.

I did outline the reasons in the description but

Basically I got the idea looking at some data on metropolitan opinion in the Algerian war before Evian, (I forgot the exact paper but you can find it on Persée.fr), it highlighted how most of the metropolitan population just didn’t care much about the pieds noir (not exactly surprising considering their treatment later). In this timeline, a junta has been leading France between 1958 and 1968, with 5 more years under a rigged very conservative government, despite ever increasing popular protest from large parts of society, after the election of Defferre, in the mind of most people Algeria is linked to the dictatorship, and beside because of the partition many metropolitan thought they could manage themselves alone, more cynically, the place and the War was a money sink and prevented further européenne integration, and Algeria had switched to the right decisively since the start of the war

At the same time by 1973, a MFA-style movement had appeared in the army since the war had been going on for nearly 20 years, after the socialist government was elected and they allowed he army to leave east Algeria, many metropolitan soldiers and generals were relieved and didn’t want to fight again, that alongside contradictory orders led to an indecisiveness at a time of increasing tensions, since many of the various settlers inhabitant of central Algeria (Altava), were scared of this prospect, and some extremely conservative part of the army had been sidelined by the government, -and finally the fact that many maronite and Lebanese in algeria had seen France abandon Lebanon to Syrian invasion, they took the destiny of the country into their own hand and declared independence from France, many didn’t expect it to last, but for reasons pointed above, the Defferre government accepted it.

The POD is rather early - the creation of a maronite state during ww2 - that allowed to tie France to the Middle East and an anti Arabs policy while opening a migration source for such Christian Lebanese/Syrian toward Algeria.

And yes there would be a lot of ethnic cleansing, the IRl Peyreffite plan for partition already planned for the deportation of 500,000 Arab Algerian , in this timeline since there is an actual war, many More would have to flee.
 
In my English 2 class, we are reading Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi. The story is about her childhood in Iran during the Islamic Revolution. It inspired me to make this map, of an alternate history where the Islamic Revolution turned into a full-blown Iranian Civil War.
POD: 1979
Current date: January 1, 1984
View attachment 521382
Factions of the civil war:
Yellow-Green: Islamic Revolutionary Army
Mustard Yellow: Republic of Iran
Raspberry Red: Iranian People's Army
Other things to note:
Iraq annexes Khuzestan(1982)
Iranian Kurdistan and Azerbaijan declare independence(1981)
Soviets defeat Afghanistan(1981)​

A little surprised that the Baloch people in the southeast aren't declaring independence, but otherwise, nice map.
 
I did outline the reasons in the description but

Basically I got the idea looking at some data on metropolitan opinion in the Algerian war before Evian, (I forgot the exact paper but you can find it on Persée.fr), it highlighted how most of the metropolitan population just didn’t care much about the pieds noir (not exactly surprising considering their treatment later). In this timeline, a junta has been leading France between 1958 and 1968, with 5 more years under a rigged very conservative government, despite ever increasing popular protest from large parts of society, after the election of Defferre, in the mind of most people Algeria is linked to the dictatorship, and beside because of the partition many metropolitan thought they could manage themselves alone, more cynically, the place and the War was a money sink and prevented further européenne integration, and Algeria had switched to the right decisively since the start of the war

At the same time by 1973, a MFA-style movement had appeared in the army since the war had been going on for nearly 20 years, after the socialist government was elected and they allowed he army to leave east Algeria, many metropolitan soldiers and generals were relieved and didn’t want to fight again, that alongside contradictory orders led to an indecisiveness at a time of increasing tensions, since many of the various settlers inhabitant of central Algeria (Altava), were scared of this prospect, and some extremely conservative part of the army had been sidelined by the government, -and finally the fact that many maronite and Lebanese in algeria had seen France abandon Lebanon to Syrian invasion, they took the destiny of the country into their own hand and declared independence from France, many didn’t expect it to last, but for reasons pointed above, the Defferre government accepted it.

The POD is rather early - the creation of a maronite state during ww2 - that allowed to tie France to the Middle East and an anti Arabs policy while opening a migration source for such Christian Lebanese/Syrian toward Algeria.

And yes there would be a lot of ethnic cleansing, the IRl Peyreffite plan for partition already planned for the deportation of 500,000 Arab Algerian , in this timeline since there is an actual war, many More would have to flee.

Pro Algerian junta causing anti Algeria sentiment at home checks out.

Army elements in Algeria defecting to keep it under French minority checks out.

Yeah I can buy that. They'd probably be a pariah state though.
 
OK I have a question to the good people of the Map Thread. Firstly an explanation:

I have this sort of timeline thing where Germany and Russia were allied and won WW1. Britain fell to a communist revolution afterwards. These revolutionaries later took over most of the British Empire. There was also a non-communist revolution in India, which won its independence. China later also falls to a communist government. So by 1950 (and for much of the *Cold War) British Empire/Commonwealth loyalists are limited to Canada minus Quebec and the Maritimes; South Africa (with Namibia, Lesotho and eSwatini); Australia minus West Australia, Victoria and New South Wales; South Island of New Zealand; Hong Kong; all of Papua; pretty much all OTL European and American holdings in the Pacific Ocean minus Hawaii; Malaysia, Singapore, rest of Borneo and later gained Sulawesi and Maluku. Due to the closeness of Communist territories to large cities in the White Dominions the Royal Family and the government in exile operates from Singapore.

Anyways when the communist government in Britain falls Australia and New Zealand have fully reunified under Commonwealth member republics, South Africa has lost Namibia but is still a Dominion, Canada has grown to include New York, Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Alaska; while Quebec is an independent republic and Maritimes have joined New England; and remains a dominion. Remaining lands under Loyalist rule are organised under the Dominion of Malaya and Pacifica (stretching from Malaysia to Polynesia, with its capital in Singapore) while the United Kingdom is restored over the British Isles (minus all of Ireland), Gibraltar, Bermuda, Falklands, some other minor Islands in the Atlantic and near Antarctica (would later also get the Bahamas and Turks&Caicos).

The Question is Should Hong Kong be part/an overseas possession of the restored United Kingdom or be a part (State/Province) of the Dominion of Malaya and Pacifica?
 
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