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I finished the riding map for Columbia for my TL, so here’s the blank map. I’ll take bets for what party will win what seats. There are the nationalists, the conservatives, the greens, the liberals, and the socialists, from right to left.

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Maybe a traditionalist White Russia facing off against a nightmarish Nazi Empire, with futurist Italy being forced to hold it's nose and ally Moscow?
Good ideas
Question though: what exactly is the ideological conflict between Europe and America? My first though was a colonialist Europe vs a neo colonialist anti colonialist America, but that doesn't seem to be the case, what with Eurosocialism.
It's mostly a struggle to be the dominant force. There are some ideological conflicts between both sides (given how Europe is much more tolerant of left-leaning ideologies), but it's mostly Europe trying to hold their position in a world where America is clearly the dominant nation. Think less of an ideological cold war and more like the Belle Époque.
 
Maybe a traditionalist White Russia facing off against a nightmarish Nazi Empire, with futurist Italy being forced to hold it's nose and ally Moscow?

I think that, absent a communist takeover of Russia and the fear that they would launch a worldwide red revolution, there would not be much political will in Germany for a conquest of that country, and a radical right-wing Russia might be seen as a natural ally. The Nazis certainly thought that Slavs were inferior, but they were still willing to work with Slavic countries, such as Bulgaria and Croatia, whose political goals broadly aligned with their own.
 
I think that, absent a communist takeover of Russia and the fear that they would launch a worldwide red revolution, there would not be much political will in Germany for a conquest of that country, and a radical right-wing Russia might be seen as a natural ally. The Nazis certainly thought that Slavs were inferior, but they were still willing to work with Slavic countries, such as Bulgaria and Croatia, whose political goals broadly aligned with their own.
Well, without/with weaker "red scare" there maybe wont be nazi Germany...
On the other hand, Hitlers goal no. 1. was Lebensraum in the east. So yeah, alliance with non-bolshevik Russia would be possible, of course, but I doubt it would be (seen as) natural
 
Taiga Country (Epithet Erased)

Nothing big, just a simple map I decided to make of Taiga Country from Epithet Erased after binge-watching the entire show at four in the morning, because insomnia. (If you've never seen Epithet Erased, the general idea is that every one in five people have powers based around a single word, which are usually things like "dumb," "soup," or "coupon." The show's creator has described it as if you combined Home Alone with My Hero Academia and made it more stupid.) There weren't any in-universe maps (at least, none that I noticed), so everything is based off of my headcanons. Since, according to the creator of the show, the EE world speaks a kind of magical Esperanto-esque language, I tossed in some gratuitous slightly-corrupted Esperanto here and there. All of the province/capital city names are either references to something from OTL, puns, inside jokes, or all of the above.

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Aurantiacis

Gone Fishin'
Taiga Country (Epithet Erased)

Nothing big, just a simple map I decided to make of Taiga Country from Epithet Erased after binge-watching the entire show at four in the morning, because insomnia. (If you've never seen Epithet Erased, the general idea is that every one in five people have powers based around a single word, which are usually things like "dumb," "soup," or "coupon." The show's creator has described it as if you combined Home Alone with My Hero Academia and made it more stupid.) There weren't any in-universe maps (at least, none that I noticed), so everything is based off of my headcanons. Since, according to the creator of the show, the EE world speaks a kind of magical Esperanto-esque language, I tossed in some gratuitous slightly-corrupted Esperanto here and there. All of the province/capital city names are either references to something from OTL, puns, inside jokes, or all of the above.

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Looks like an AH Canada.
 
Hi everybody! Here's a map of an alternate 2010's Europe, in a TL where Weimar Germany remains a stable political regime and succeeds to retake Dantzig and Memel by referendum, and in this TL, there was a different WW2 with a Rome-Moscow-Tokyo axis, resulting in the implosion of the USSR in the mid-1940s.

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And in advance, happy new year !!
 
I finished the riding map for Columbia for my TL, so here’s the blank map. I’ll take bets for what party will win what seats. There are the nationalists, the conservatives, the greens, the liberals, and the socialists, from right to left.
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My guesses:

1. The socialist party is more of a traditional "labor party" and still has something close to the OTL New Deal/Great Society Coalition, doing well among urban minorities and in industrial and mining areas with strong labor traditions, but poorly in more affluent urban ridings and in most suburbs.
2. The liberal party wins some middle-class urban ridings and maybe has some minority support.
3. The conservative party is strongest in suburbs and in some of the better-off rural/agricultural areas and has more minority/immigrant support than the modern GOP IOTL.
4. The nationalists get like 10% everywhere but struggle to win seats outright, maybe in some rural areas where the conservatives are weak but where there isn't a strong labor tradition.
5. The greens also struggle to win seats but might nab a few in college towns or certain urban core ridings.
 
How do you guys keep up with the enormous amounts of lore and history that world has?
You dont,
For me (Fred may differ), when I make a map in the HM universe I find a country I like and look at all the turns it existed to see any mention of cities, leaders, lore of the nation to add. I also look at any previous made maps of the region to try to keep "canon" cities existing. This usually gets a feel for the general direction a country went and what the "perspective" of the nation looked like for the style of the map.
 
One last map for 2019! (or one first map for 2020, depending on your timezone)

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The PoD is that agriculture independently develops in California thousands of years ago (based on the domestication of the wapato, chia, chufa, amaranth), leading to California becoming a cradle of civilization. The Preclassic or Formative era started with the birth of the Utian civilization around the Sacramento Delta c. 2000 BCE and saw the development of urbanism, writing, monumental agriculture, and longstanding cultural hallmarks of Californian civilization like extensive irrigation, intricate basketry in place of ceramics, culture hero worship, and secret societies. The Classic era began c. 500 CE with the introduction of maize, ceramics, and the bow and arrow (the former two by trade with Mesoamerica and the Southwest, the latter by foreign invasion from the north by the Wintun people), was dominated by the Wintun Empire in the north and the Yokuts Empire in the south, along with the independent Ohlone city-states along the coast, and saw the cult societies reach their height of power as a sort of priestly caste, subjecting their nominal kings to yearly sacrifice, before eventually being bloodily purged by a rebellion of the aristocratic-warrior castes, an event which may have been either a cause or a result of the Classic collapse c. 1000 CE.

The Postclassic era was initially defined by a welter of warring states; the Mihuac Empire rose first gradually, with a slow unification of the scattered Miwok states over course of the 1300s, and then suddenly, with the Great Conqueror using that base to take over most of the Central Valley (and therefore most of the remnants of the Wintun and Yokuts Empires), followed by his son subjugating the Ohlone cities. For the next century and a half the Mihuac Empire's borders mostly stayed stable and it instead focused on internal fairs, building up an ambitious infrastructure system - rebuilding the previous empires' irrigation systems as well as building an extensive new road network - and co-opting the cult societies while also steadily marginalizing them and instead promoting and identifying the emperor with the worship of Coyote, assisted by imposing temples and impressive gold relics. Apart from the Empire, the most powerful part of Postclassic California was the Chumash city-states, who grew rich off of their monopoly on maritime trade networks and the dentalium shells widely used as currency.

In the first half of the 16th century California was both a thriving self-contained system and the nexus of a wider commercial and cultural network of cities and states reaching far up the Pacific Northwest coast and east to Oasisamerica. This would all change with the arrival of the Spanish conquistador Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo in 1542...
 
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Aurantiacis

Gone Fishin'
You dont,
For me (Fred may differ), when I make a map in the HM universe I find a country I like and look at all the turns it existed to see any mention of cities, leaders, lore of the nation to add. I also look at any previous made maps of the region to try to keep "canon" cities existing. This usually gets a feel for the general direction a country went and what the "perspective" of the nation looked like for the style of the map.

That's about the same timeline for me! A lot of the states I do are pretty obscure and are only mentioned in a few turns, so mostly I piece everything together and adding bits of my own lore.
Also why I avoid medieval Europe, which has some really confusing and thick lore that I can't decipher.
 
One last map for 2019! (or one first map for 2020, depending on your timezone)


The PoD is that agriculture independently develops in California thousands of years ago (based on the domestication of the wapato, chia, chufa, amaranth), leading to California becoming a cradle of civilization. The Preclassic or Formative era started with the birth of the Utian civilization around the Sacramento Delta c. 2000 BCE and saw the development of urbanism, writing, monumental agriculture, and longstanding cultural hallmarks of Californian civilization like extensive irrigation, intricate basketry in place of ceramics, culture hero worship, and secret societies. The Classic era began c. 500 CE with the introduction of maize, ceramics, and the bow and arrow (the former two by trade with Mesoamerica and the Southwest, the latter by foreign invasion from the north by the Wintun people), was dominated by the Wintun Empire in the north and the Yokuts Empire in the south, along with the independent Ohlone city-states along the coast, and saw the cult societies reach their height of power as a sort of priestly caste, subjecting their nominal kings to yearly sacrifice, before eventually being bloodily purged by a rebellion of the aristocratic-warrior castes, an event which may have been either a cause or a result of the Classic collapse c. 1000 CE.

The Postclassic era was initially defined by a welter of warring states; the Mihuac Empire rose first gradually, with a slow unification of the scattered Miwok states over course of the 1300s, and then suddenly, with the Great Conqueror using that base to take over most of the Central Valley (and therefore most of the remnants of the Wintun and Yokuts Empires), followed by his son subjugating the Ohlone cities. For the next century and a half the Mihuac Empire's borders mostly stayed stable and it instead focused on internal fairs, building up an ambitious infrastructure system - rebuilding the previous empires' irrigation systems as well as building an extensive new road network - and co-opting the cult societies while also steadily marginalizing them and instead promoting and identifying the emperor with the worship of Coyote, assisted by imposing temples and impressive gold relics. Apart from the Empire, the most powerful part of Postclassic California was the Chumash city-states, who grew rich off of their monopoly on maritime trade networks and the dentalium shells widely used as currency.

In the first half of the 16th century California was both a thriving self-contained system and the nexus of a wider commercial and cultural network of cities and states reaching far up the Pacific Northwest coast and east to Oasisamerica. This would all change with the arrival of the Spanish conquistador Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo in 1542...
11/10 I love it.
 
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