I was always curious what the states in Africa were, like the United States of Africa, or Senegal. Always thought that state in the Levant was a mega-Israel.
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I was always curious what the states in Africa were, like the United States of Africa, or Senegal. Always thought that state in the Levant was a mega-Israel.
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MEMORANDUM OF FOREIGN POLICY DISCUSSION
SUBJECT: MIDDLE EASTERN POLICY
PARTICIPANTS: [REDACTED#1] [REDACTED#2] [REDACTED #3]
DATE, TIME, AND PLACE: JANUARY 5 9:03-9:43 PM EDT 2013 THE PENTAGON
[REDACTED#1]: Gentlemen, as you are aware, the Middle East has been a hotbed of chaos for the past two years. Multiple insurgents, prominently the Islamic State, have risen in the Fertile Crescent. Egypt’s stability is threatened as a succession of ineffective governments come and go. The Libyan civil war is entering its second year. It seems that the Middle East will burn stronger, harder, and far longer than we previously expected. How did we get here, and more importantly, what are our options to make sure our allies aren’t burdened with further chaos?
[REDACTED#2]: Someone should have told the shrub to keep his ego in check.
[REDACTED#3]: The shrub- don’t you mean-
[REDACTED#1]: ANYWAYS, we must look back to 2001. Why 2001? That’s when the Western world woke up to the threat of terrorism. September 11th was the day the U.S. realized the Cold War and a new threat was on the horizon. This threat didn’t have a country nor a face- excluding Bin Laden, but he’s an exception.
[REDACTED#3]: We know what happened next. We invaded Iraq.
[REDACTED#2]: It’s all the shrub’s fault. Him and his father both.
[REDACTED#3]: Well...you’re not wrong.
[REDACTED#2]: But anyways, our biggest mistake was thinking this would be easy, like Bosnia- bomb the shit out of the Iraqis and send in the UN to monitor things, and get out. Iraq and Bosnia aren’t the same thing. We knew it was difficult, but we thought we could solve it by determination, ingenuity, and the can-do attitude. The American Way.
[REDACTED#1]: Precisely. Which is why what happened next was our worst nightmare. We decided to dissolve the Iraqi Armed Forces and proscribed the Ba’ath Party- before you say anything, these are the people that conducted genocide against the Kurds. Twice. Iraq needs de-Baathification.
[REDACTED#2]: Unfortunately, this wasn’t taken kindly by the now ex-soldiers and the Ba’athist government. They took to the sands. They began launching attacks. We launched Peninsula Strike and Desert Scorpion throughout the Sunni triangle. We thought that would be enough. And for a while, it was.
[REDACTED#1]: But it got worse. In 2004 the insurgency’s scope increased by nearly 40 percent. They became more organized, more direct and more confident in their capabilities. Muk- muk-
[REDACTED#3]: Muqtada. Muqtada al-Sadr.
[REDACTED#1]: Right, thank you. Muqtada al-Sadr and his Madhist Army attacked key U.S. installations and tried to evict Coalition forces from Iraq. We contained it, quickly, but that was only the beginning. In November, insurgents in Fallujah mutilated several contractors. We bombed Fallujah. We tried to pacify Fallujah. We failed. But we didn’t give up, because that’s not the American way. We launched Operation Phantom Fury, and we took that damn city back. Sure, there were controversies, but we did it. And by 2005 the Coalition had transferred its powers first to the Iraqi Transitional Government and then the Iraqi Interim Government. We hoped it could draft a permanent constitution and beef up its security forces to continue the fight against the terrorists in Iraq. But the Iraqi elections in 2005 put Nouri al-Maliki in charge. Now, [REDACTED#3], you know this better than I do.
[REDACTED#3]: Indeed, I do. Nouri al-Maliki is what people would call… a nepotist. He favors his own community, the Shias, over other Iraqis. He appointed Shias to the military, the cabinet, and even his own party. Iraq’s seen this before- back when Saddam appointed Sunnis to his own government. Iraqis do not like favoritism.
[REDACTED #1]: This just, to use more coarse language, pissed the rebels off. The insurgency grew enormously. Al-Qaeda in Iraq began to specifically target Shias. Whole families were killed. Hundreds of civilians, imams, and government officials disappeared. Al-Qaeda still denies it to this day, but it’s almost certain that they were involved in starting the whole damn mess.
[REDACTED #2]: I don’t understand these guys. It’s like they don’t have any idea of what stability means. They just want to destroy, destroy, and destroy. It’s like that guy from the Batman film- they just want to watch the world burn.
[REDACTED #3]: Oh, no. Believe me, they have respect for a structure. Just like we hold the Vatican, the White House, or hell, the Twin Towers. Despite some… people’s complaints that the Iraqis are nothing but savages, they still have the same capacity for respect and veneration that we do. It is precisely because of the fact of this humanity that they resist the Coalition. They think American-imposed government is foul and odious, even though it’s not
[REDACTED #1]: And the war, gentlemen, got worse. Shias and Sunnis massacred each other in the streets. The President won his second term, and planned another surge to stop this mess. This was...unpopular to say the least. By 2007 over 1000 Americans were dead, and Bush surged troop numbers by 20,000. We secured more cities, but the insurgents only fought harder.
Now, let me be frank with you...five years of constant fighting, five years of constant struggle against groups that couldn’t be defeated took a toll on our troops. Whether it was AQI, the Shia militias ‘allied’ to the Iraqi government, or hell, even random men with a rifle and a couple of bullets...they showed us that our efforts to bring about stability was...lackluster. This ineffectiveness on the frontlines made its way into our political scene. Barack Obama rode into power on a promise to put an end to this war. In his first year of office and in this war’s sixth year, despite AQI becoming more and more daring under al-Zarqawi, the US withdrew from Iraq.
[REDACTED #2]: Yet we’re still here.
[REDACTED #1]: Precisely. Now this is the real part, none of that backstory business. This is what we were ordered to take care of, and to do it fast. As per orders from the President himself, we are here to come up with a strategy to take out the Islamic State, al-Qaeda, and minor Jihadist militias in both Syria and Iraq. So let’s look at the situation presented to us.
[REDACTED #3]: Next thing you know, Obama will have us in Syria again, and it’ll be Iraq War Two.
[REDACTED #2]: Shush, let the big man speak.
[REDACTED #1]: Ahem. Syria. Civil war has torn it apart. The Free Syrian Army has fractured into multiple forces, letting Al-Qaeda and ISIS move their operations there. They’ve taken Deir-ez-Zor and Raqqa governorates and captured crucial towns along the Euphrates. If the two groups make further inroads into Syria, both Damascus and what’s left of the Free Army might collapse, allowing the jihadists to take over the entire country. Iraq is in a similar bind- ever since the last of the Coalition forces left in 2010 the country’s been in chaos. The sectarian divide is bringing the country to ruin. Militias are everywhere- either hindering or helping the government.
[REDACTED #3]: Maliki’s only made it worse with his Shia favoritism
[REDACTED #1]: Precisely. Now, when the Islamic State and al-Qaeda started their push into Iraq, no one expected a huge proportion of Sunni insurgents to join the two groups. Most analysts assumed the two’s brutality against the Shias and other non-Sunnis would drive most Iraqis away. Instead, these insurgents pledged their loyalty to the two main terror organizations. Most of them went to IS , which makes sense given how they controlled a good chunk of eastern Syria before the Anbar offensive. That’s not to say al-Qaeda is not a dangerous force, believe me, but their capability to marshal an army like ISIS is less, given that they’re not actually a state entity.
So the main question is, what do we do? How can the US Armed Forces prevent both al-Qaeda and the Islamic State from extending their blackened hand across the Muslim World? Well, that is what we’re here for. We will not let these insurgents take another inch of land. So let’s get down to business.
Now, turn to the provided manuscripts, and we can begin the discussion at hand.
UNCLASSIFIED
MEMORANDUM OF FOREIGN POLICY DISCUSSION
SUBJECT: MIDDLE EASTERN POLICY
PARTICIPANTS: [REDACTED#1] [REDACTED#2] [REDACTED #3]
DATE, TIME, AND PLACE: JANUARY 5 9:03-9:43 PM EDT 2013 THE PENTAGON
[REDACTED#1]: Gentlemen, as you are aware, the Middle East has been a hotbed of chaos for the past two years. Multiple insurgents, prominently the Islamic State, have risen in the Fertile Crescent. Egypt’s stability is threatened as a succession of ineffective governments come and go. The Libyan civil war is entering its second year. It seems that the Middle East will burn stronger, harder, and far longer than we previously expected. How did we get here, and more importantly, what are our options to make sure our allies aren’t burdened with further chaos?
[REDACTED#2]: Someone should have told the shrub to keep his ego in check.
[REDACTED#3]: The shrub- don’t you mean-
[REDACTED#1]: ANYWAYS, we must look back to 2001. Why 2001? That’s when the Western world woke up to the threat of terrorism. September 11th was the day the U.S. realized the Cold War and a new threat was on the horizon. This threat didn’t have a country nor a face- excluding Bin Laden, but he’s an exception.
[REDACTED#3]: We know what happened next. We invaded Iraq.
[REDACTED#2]: It’s all the shrub’s fault. Him and his father both.
[REDACTED#3]: Well...you’re not wrong.
[REDACTED#2]: But anyways, our biggest mistake was thinking this would be easy, like Bosnia- bomb the shit out of the Iraqis and send in the UN to monitor things, and get out. Iraq and Bosnia aren’t the same thing. We knew it was difficult, but we thought we could solve it by determination, ingenuity, and the can-do attitude. The American Way.
[REDACTED#1]: Precisely. Which is why what happened next was our worst nightmare. We decided to dissolve the Iraqi Armed Forces and proscribed the Ba’ath Party- before you say anything, these are the people that conducted genocide against the Kurds. Twice. Iraq needs de-Baathification.
[REDACTED#2]: Unfortunately, this wasn’t taken kindly by the now ex-soldiers and the Ba’athist government. They took to the sands. They began launching attacks. We launched Peninsula Strike and Desert Scorpion throughout the Sunni triangle. We thought that would be enough. And for a while, it was.
[REDACTED#1]: But it got worse. In 2004 the insurgency’s scope increased by nearly 40 percent. They became more organized, more direct and more confident in their capabilities. Muk- muk-
[REDACTED#3]: Muqtada. Muqtada al-Sadr.
[REDACTED#1]: Right, thank you. Muqtada al-Sadr and his Madhist Army attacked key U.S. installations and tried to evict Coalition forces from Iraq. We contained it, quickly, but that was only the beginning. In November, insurgents in Fallujah mutilated several contractors. We bombed Fallujah. We tried to pacify Fallujah. We failed. But we didn’t give up, because that’s not the American way. We launched Operation Phantom Fury, and we took that damn city back. Sure, there were controversies, but we did it. And by 2005 the Coalition had transferred its powers first to the Iraqi Transitional Government and then the Iraqi Interim Government. We hoped it could draft a permanent constitution and beef up its security forces to continue the fight against the terrorists in Iraq. But the Iraqi elections in 2005 put Nouri al-Maliki in charge. Now, [REDACTED#3], you know this better than I do.
[REDACTED#3]: Indeed, I do. Nouri al-Maliki is what people would call… a nepotist. He favors his own community, the Shias, over other Iraqis. He appointed Shias to the military, the cabinet, and even his own party. Iraq’s seen this before- back when Saddam appointed Sunnis to his own government. Iraqis do not like favoritism.
[REDACTED #1]: This just, to use more coarse language, pissed the rebels off. The insurgency grew enormously. Al-Qaeda in Iraq began to specifically target Shias. Whole families were killed. Hundreds of civilians, imams, and government officials disappeared. Al-Qaeda still denies it to this day, but it’s almost certain that they were involved in starting the whole damn mess.
[REDACTED #2]: I don’t understand these guys. It’s like they don’t have any idea of what stability means. They just want to destroy, destroy, and destroy. It’s like that guy from the Batman film- they just want to watch the world burn.
[REDACTED #3]: Oh, no. Believe me, they have respect for a structure. Just like we hold the Vatican, the White House, or hell, the Twin Towers. Despite some… people’s complaints that the Iraqis are nothing but savages, they still have the same capacity for respect and veneration that we do. It is precisely because of the fact of this humanity that they resist the Coalition. They think American-imposed government is foul and odious, even though it’s not
[REDACTED #1]: And the war, gentlemen, got worse. Shias and Sunnis massacred each other in the streets. The President won his second term, and planned another surge to stop this mess. This was...unpopular to say the least. By 2007 over 1000 Americans were dead, and Bush surged troop numbers by 20,000. We secured more cities, but the insurgents only fought harder.
Now, let me be frank with you...five years of constant fighting, five years of constant struggle against groups that couldn’t be defeated took a toll on our troops. Whether it was AQI, the Shia militias ‘allied’ to the Iraqi government, or hell, even random men with a rifle and a couple of bullets...they showed us that our efforts to bring about stability was...lackluster. This ineffectiveness on the frontlines made its way into our political scene. Barack Obama rode into power on a promise to put an end to this war. In his first year of office and in this war’s sixth year, despite AQI becoming more and more daring under al-Zarqawi, the US withdrew from Iraq.
[REDACTED #2]: Yet we’re still here.
[REDACTED #1]: Precisely. Now this is the real part, none of that backstory business. This is what we were ordered to take care of, and to do it fast. As per orders from the President himself, we are here to come up with a strategy to take out the Islamic State, al-Qaeda, and minor Jihadist militias in both Syria and Iraq. So let’s look at the situation presented to us.
[REDACTED #3]: Next thing you know, Obama will have us in Syria again, and it’ll be Iraq War Two.
[REDACTED #2]: Shush, let the big man speak.
[REDACTED #1]: Ahem. Syria. Civil war has torn it apart. The Free Syrian Army has fractured into multiple forces, letting Al-Qaeda and ISIS move their operations there. They’ve taken Deir-ez-Zor and Raqqa governorates and captured crucial towns along the Euphrates. If the two groups make further inroads into Syria, both Damascus and what’s left of the Free Army might collapse, allowing the jihadists to take over the entire country. Iraq is in a similar bind- ever since the last of the Coalition forces left in 2010 the country’s been in chaos. The sectarian divide is bringing the country to ruin. Militias are everywhere- either hindering or helping the government.
[REDACTED #3]: Maliki’s only made it worse with his Shia favoritism
[REDACTED #1]: Precisely. Now, when the Islamic State and al-Qaeda started their push into Iraq, no one expected a huge proportion of Sunni insurgents to join the two groups. Most analysts assumed the two’s brutality against the Shias and other non-Sunnis would drive most Iraqis away. Instead, these insurgents pledged their loyalty to the two main terror organizations. Most of them went to IS , which makes sense given how they controlled a good chunk of eastern Syria before the Anbar offensive. That’s not to say al-Qaeda is not a dangerous force, believe me, but their capability to marshal an army like ISIS is less, given that they’re not actually a state entity.
So the main question is, what do we do? How can the US Armed Forces prevent both al-Qaeda and the Islamic State from extending their blackened hand across the Muslim World? Well, that is what we’re here for. We will not let these insurgents take another inch of land. So let’s get down to business.
Now, turn to the provided manuscripts, and we can begin the discussion at hand.
Is it just me, or this is transparently just... "monarchy is noble and good, democracy is fine so long as it tolerates monarchies, fascism is okay so long as it's against communism, and communism will always be corrupt because something something human nature" in its implications? Like, I'm not necessarily saying "the author of this thinks that", it's just the message I see is somewhere around that. The existence of the Japanese empire and of the Knights of Malta certainly don't help, either.
I don't know but I don't think communism is all that good whatsoever despite opposing monarchism and fascism.
The following was made in a little under an hour while listening to a mixture of Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Metallica, and Guns N' Roses.
The Chinese Currency Situation
One of the most obvious impacts of the almost 50 years of civil war in the Kingdom of China was the widespread development of new currencies, revival of old currencies, or acceptance of the currencies of neighboring nations.
The civil war left the fate of the standard Chinese Yuan(refereed to as a Zhongshan Yuan in much of the country) in a state of heavy debate, with many foreign onlookers expecting the full on collapse of the currency. So it was a shock to many when the Yuan managed to survive(at the cost of a significant drop in global worth). What surprised many more though was the emergence of four other types of Yuan, all clamoring for control, though non succeeding in spreading far out of their regions of origin. What is the most interesting though was the revival of the Won, Togrog, and Tangska as accepted currencies(in the provinces that recognize them at least). Also surprising is that almost all of the border provinces have regions within their borders where the currencies of neighboring nations are accepted, owing to the relative weakness of many of the currencies compared to the currencies of their neighbors. It has been observed by both Chinese officials and outsiders that all of these currencies seem to follow ethnic, cultural and even historical lines to some degree, showing that while the nation is currency in a state of peace, it is likely that this peace is more akin to a nationwide ceasefire, and that conflict is expected by many to break out again.
The Chinese Currency Situation
One of the most obvious impacts of the almost 50 years of civil war in the Kingdom of China was the widespread development of new currencies, revival of old currencies, or acceptance of the currencies of neighboring nations.
The civil war left the fate of the standard Chinese Yuan(refereed to as a Zhongshan Yuan in much of the country) in a state of heavy debate, with many foreign onlookers expecting the full on collapse of the currency. So it was a shock to many when the Yuan managed to survive(at the cost of a significant drop in global worth). What surprised many more though was the emergence of four other types of Yuan, all clamoring for control, though non succeeding in spreading far out of their regions of origin. What is the most interesting though was the revival of the Won, Togrog, and Tangska as accepted currencies(in the provinces that recognize them at least). Also surprising is that almost all of the border provinces have regions within their borders where the currencies of neighboring nations are accepted, owing to the relative weakness of many of the currencies compared to the currencies of their neighbors. It has been observed by both Chinese officials and outsiders that all of these currencies seem to follow ethnic, cultural and even historical lines to some degree, showing that while the nation is currency in a state of peace, it is likely that this peace is more akin to a nationwide ceasefire, and that conflict is expected by many to break out again.
I wasn't going to post my map in the 2nd Telephone Mapgame but since the "Sexland" issue has been mentioned again I am going to post it so there is atleast a map that includes that nation.
Anyway there you go @Fred Guo
The third time someone didn't do Sexland in this thread? No one's willing to take the bait
That message is a bit off, to put it lightly.
It should be emphasized that the "Reactionaries" are not portrayed as really "good" at all, and only seem as such (even if only in a remote sense) compared to the Collectivists.
The "Free Nations," whether monarchist or republican, also aren't squeaky clean, either, as they have issues of their own. To say nothing of how they're also rather varied and not simply one-note. Not to mention how the evolution of those countries prior to and following the Terror doesn't quite follow OTL, such as Japan being more reminiscent of Taisho Democracy (though the Koreans unfortunately wind up going Reactionary instead) or the American Federation arriving at a more amicable compromise with the Native American (though discrimination persists towards "Non-Anglo Europeans" for instance).
While the Collectivists themselves aren't so much OTL Communists but adhere to a radicalized, warped form of Socialism with theocratic elements, with variations that generally fall under Stalinist, Totalist or Orwellian "Threeist" lines.
Also note that this is a setting that's about a century into a long, seemingly endless Cold War against a persistent threat. Even in a best-case scenario, there's bound to some loose screws or messed-up developments about.
And again, depiction is not endorsement.
Admittedly, even back in 2011, Africa was among the least developed parts of the setting. Though I've slowly expounding on it, beginning with the United African States, Brazilian-controlled Angola and Southern Africa.
As for the Levant, it was always intended to be a confederation or union rather than "mega-Israel." Though the current iteration does have an Israel-equivalent of sorts, descended from Jews fleeing the Collectivists.
Could you please explain to the uneducated (aka me) how this is different from OTL?
One of the most interesting spots for the Islamic world will definely be Palestine. I see the Syrians immediately trying to annex the Golan Heights, as well as that extra land they occupied during a war touching on the Sea of Galilee. Refugees will probably be dumped in the rest of the area (Palestinian Refugees, maybe Syrian ones as well depending on if there is still that civil war), the millions of Palestinians will find themselves without the homes they and their grandparents left, and the West Bank- Ooooh. All those Israeli soldiers and settlers are going to wish they stated in the rest of Israel. No roads or much in the way of decent wood to build boats to try heading to the coast and fleeing. Perhaps they are disarmed, cleared out of East Jerusalem, and them left to stay exactly where they are? I imagine people would make jokes about how ironic it is when looking at a map of the area, but- Yah, I don't see the Arabs in general or Palestinians in specific trying to slaughter them, but I can see offers being made at the point of a gun to get in a boat to be dumped in Italy.
For the Christian map... I am thinking that the disappeared members of the EU become kind of joint EU states? Though there are a couple million Czecks in different areas.
I began thinking about the ISOT process a while back and came up with some questions;
1] Is it a natural or guided process?
All indications are that it is guided-
ｷ maps show countries that begin with the same letter
ｷ WHOLE, irregular shaped states are moved
ｷ maps that ISOT only certain categories of people or leave certain categories behind
ｷ the process seems to understand the English alphabet
but that could just reflect the predilections of the mapmakers.
On the natural side, it seems as though, alphabet aside, there is no rhyme or reason to the states picked.
2] Is it a duplication or a movement of people and places?
No obvious answers here, I think I have seen only 1 map showing OTL countries exploiting the gap left by ISOTted countries.
It seems the most common ISOT is duplication with movement being very rare.
Does this mean there are different types of ISOT?
3] Why do 99% of ISOTs send population back to a "Virgin Earth" rather than an historical one?
The virgin earth always seems to have the same coastlines as OTL which indicates that it can only be within the last few thousand years given Ice Ages and Tectonic Plate movement so why is there no indigenous race, either Human or otherwise.
4] Some other stray questions;
All man-made objects seem to move as well but does this include foreign made objects? Japanese cars, Chinese TVs etc.
How high does the ISOT go? Would geo-synchronous satellites move as well?
Does the ISOT land replace the indigenous, if not what happens to sewerage/drainage works. Are mines now filled in? Would the indigenous flora and fauna remain or be replaced by cultivated fields and managed forests?
If it is not the work of some capricious God or Gods, what causes ISOTs?
Why does country A not get moved in space ie France to South America?
What happens to the population re; Panic or New Diseases etc
Could we see traits reversed ie; Bolsheviks fighting to install a Monarchy in a Communist Russia or American patriots trying to bring the independent colonies under British rule.
All in all I think we need to have categories of ISOTs;
ISOT-1 Move
ISOT-2 Duplicate
ISOT-3 Natural
ISOT-4 Act of God
ISOT-5 Non-synchronous geographic move
ISOT-6 Time Travel
ISOT-7 ?????
I'm sure there are other categories and sub-categories along with other queries and questions so I'll leave this open to discussion.
1] Is it a natural or guided process?
All indications are that it is guided-
ｷ maps show countries that begin with the same letter
ｷ WHOLE, irregular shaped states are moved
ｷ maps that ISOT only certain categories of people or leave certain categories behind
ｷ the process seems to understand the English alphabet
but that could just reflect the predilections of the mapmakers.
On the natural side, it seems as though, alphabet aside, there is no rhyme or reason to the states picked.
2] Is it a duplication or a movement of people and places?
No obvious answers here, I think I have seen only 1 map showing OTL countries exploiting the gap left by ISOTted countries.
It seems the most common ISOT is duplication with movement being very rare.
Does this mean there are different types of ISOT?
3] Why do 99% of ISOTs send population back to a "Virgin Earth" rather than an historical one?
The virgin earth always seems to have the same coastlines as OTL which indicates that it can only be within the last few thousand years given Ice Ages and Tectonic Plate movement so why is there no indigenous race, either Human or otherwise.
4] Some other stray questions;
All man-made objects seem to move as well but does this include foreign made objects? Japanese cars, Chinese TVs etc.
How high does the ISOT go? Would geo-synchronous satellites move as well?
Does the ISOT land replace the indigenous, if not what happens to sewerage/drainage works. Are mines now filled in? Would the indigenous flora and fauna remain or be replaced by cultivated fields and managed forests?
If it is not the work of some capricious God or Gods, what causes ISOTs?
Why does country A not get moved in space ie France to South America?
What happens to the population re; Panic or New Diseases etc
Could we see traits reversed ie; Bolsheviks fighting to install a Monarchy in a Communist Russia or American patriots trying to bring the independent colonies under British rule.
All in all I think we need to have categories of ISOTs;
ISOT-1 Move
ISOT-2 Duplicate
ISOT-3 Natural
ISOT-4 Act of God
ISOT-5 Non-synchronous geographic move
ISOT-6 Time Travel
ISOT-7 ?????
I'm sure there are other categories and sub-categories along with other queries and questions so I'll leave this open to discussion.
So, I saw this and got thinking;
https://www.ancient-origins.net/new...s-precisely-carved-15-ton-stone-pillar-020475
https://www.ancient-origins.net/new...s-precisely-carved-15-ton-stone-pillar-020475
Awesome map. I also love the idea of these circles that ISOT areas from further back as they expand from the initial point.
Thank you, it just seemed that if it was natural and not act of god it would not have hard and fast "borders" but be more organic.
Coolio. I like that post of yours. I have lots I could say, but for now I'll sya this: On point 4, if I remember correctly, in Beedok's fab ISOT series, on planet C, a Canadian-manufactured space-travel part was found on Mars or the Moon.
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"Awesome map. I also love the idea of these circles that ISOT areas from further back as they expand from the initial point." Thanosaekk, 2019
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Ditto! I have an excellent idea for a ISOT- states of America from when they first joined the union. eg like, Delaware from 1776 up to Hawaii from 1959...
(I couldn't get the 'quote' thing to work properly)
Ditto! I have an excellent idea for a ISOT- states of America from when they first joined the union. eg like, Delaware from 1776 up to Hawaii from 1959...
Hi, good idea for an ISOT.
Can I ask what happens to the minorities- do they get left behind?
Seems to me that a majority religion [no matter which one] will persecute the minorities; Massacre, forced conversion, deportation etc.
If the minorities get left behind, I assume their Religious buildings and personal property stay with them. Would not want to live in a tower block in a mixed area when part disappears!
Lastly, Embassies are considered part of their parent country so, presumably would go to that specific world?
If not what would their status be in the new ISOT world?
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