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By better, I didn’t mean good in any sense of the word - it just seems that it has reformed its economy a bit to be stronger, it has slightly better relations with the south, etc. Better in the North Korean sense is still pretty horrible by the metrics of the rest of the world.

Yeah, I can understand that part.

I do think its interesting ATL North Korea is much more of a 'traditional ' Red nation with said militaristic flair and never have the chance to become 'Best Korea!' even with the Kim's ruling.
 
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I think I’ll make an improved version and a QBAM of parts of this map, but here’s a rough sketch of my attempt at a more plausible Kaiserreich timeline. I changed things whose plausibility I found suspect like the Whites winning the Russian Civil War, Ukraine and Belarus remaining stable members of the Reichspakt, China getting taken over by Germans, the Raj somehow only partially collapsing in India, German Vietnam, Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, etc. I would’ve liked to change Mittelafrika but I couldn’t find a suitable alternative besides reverting it to pre 1914 so I just left it as is.
 
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I think I’ll make an improved version and a QBAM of parts of this map, but here’s a rough sketch of my attempt at a more plausible Kaiserreich timeline. I changed things whose plausibility I found suspect like the Whites winning the Russian Civil War, Ukraine and Belarus remaining stable members of the Reichspakt, China getting taken over by Germans, the Raj somehow only partially collapsing in India, German Vietnam, Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, etc. I would’ve liked to change Mittelafrika but I couldn’t find a suitable alternative besides reverting it to pre 1914 so I just left it as is.

Mhh, but then, if the Bolsheviks succeed, you don't have any reason for the left to move towards syndicalism as a strategy instead, and that's one of the core elements of KR. Though a pluralistic leftist revolution in France could be interesting too.
 
Mhh, but then, if the Bolsheviks succeed, you don't have any reason for the left to move towards syndicalism as a strategy instead, and that's one of the core elements of KR. Though a pluralistic leftist revolution in France could be interesting too.

I don’t think that a successful Russian Revolution in KRTL would necessarily prevent the creation of the syndicalist republics, but it would bolster Leninist factions and probably prevent the rise of “Totalism.” The French CGT General Strike in the timeline topples the French provisional government before the Russian Civil War is concluded and so doesn’t butterfly that necessarily, although it could affect the course of the British revolution in ‘26. I feel that the more democratic British and French would still incline towards moderate syndicalism even if Lenin survived and the Bolsheviks prevailed - it might lead to awkward feelings between the two sides but the Leninist model wouldn’t apply equally to Western Europe and Britain is far more likely to follow the French example than the Russian one.
 
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I think I’ll make an improved version and a QBAM of parts of this map, but here’s a rough sketch of my attempt at a more plausible Kaiserreich timeline. I changed things whose plausibility I found suspect like the Whites winning the Russian Civil War, Ukraine and Belarus remaining stable members of the Reichspakt, China getting taken over by Germans, the Raj somehow only partially collapsing in India, German Vietnam, Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, etc. I would’ve liked to change Mittelafrika but I couldn’t find a suitable alternative besides reverting it to pre 1914 so I just left it as is.

I still don't understand why National France got to keep hold of Sierra Leone (Gambia is a toss-up for me). Were they swapped for French holdings in the Americas?

Yeah, the division of Italy in Kaiserreich doesn't make much sense. The Two Sicilies should have been part of a rump monarchist Italy.

Also, I still don't know why Montenegro was annexed to Illyria. Why not just keep it as an Austrian puppet? There might be an event chain where the Serbs have a succession crisis, with one candidate being the Prince of Montenegro, or something like that.

I believe that the Kaiserreich devs are in the process of reworking the Chinese Civil War.

Maybe the Kaiserreich could end up with either a fascist Russia (Kerensky is toast either way), or a prolonged Russian Civil War. Or an additional, earlier start option, after the end of the Weltkrieg, where you can play as a Russian warlord, or take sides in the British/French/Italian revolutions.
 
Maybe the Kaiserreich could end up with either a fascist Russia (Kerensky is toast either way), or a prolonged Russian Civil War. Or an additional, earlier start option, after the end of the Weltkrieg, where you can play as a Russian warlord, or take sides in the British/French/Italian revolutions.

Yeah, I think the entire Russian lore is in need of serious revision (I heard the dev team is working on it and scrapping the Second Russian Civil War which is good) there’s no way a discredited Kerensky makes it back in power after October 1917, I think there needs to be more NatPop options besides Savinkov or at least more development of Savinkov like building the hyper-reactionary Black Hundreds into it instead of using a former anarchist terrorist and his “combat squads.” An earlier start would be super interesting - I believe there’s a mod being made called Dawn of the Weltkrieg for Darkest Hour that adds a 1920 kaiserreich start so one can play the Russian Civil War, British Revolution, French Civil War, etc. It would be super cool for the kaiserreich devs to do it, but they have enough in the works as it is so it doesn’t seem likely.
 
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I think I’ll make an improved version and a QBAM of parts of this map, but here’s a rough sketch of my attempt at a more plausible Kaiserreich timeline. I changed things whose plausibility I found suspect like the Whites winning the Russian Civil War, Ukraine and Belarus remaining stable members of the Reichspakt, China getting taken over by Germans, the Raj somehow only partially collapsing in India, German Vietnam, Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, etc. I would’ve liked to change Mittelafrika but I couldn’t find a suitable alternative besides reverting it to pre 1914 so I just left it as is.
Claps what is happening in Ukraine?
 
I don’t think that a successful Russian Revolution in KRTL would necessarily prevent the creation of the syndicalist republics, but it would bolster Leninist factions and probably prevent the rise of “Totalism.” The French CGT General Strike in the timeline topples the French provisional government before the Russian Civil War is concluded and so doesn’t butterfly that necessarily, although it could affect the course of the British revolution in ‘26. I feel that the more democratic British and French would still incline towards moderate syndicalism even if Lenin survived and the Bolsheviks prevailed - it might lead to awkward feelings between the two sides but the Leninist model wouldn’t apply equally to Western Europe and Britain is far more likely to follow the French example than the Russian one.

One thing to remember is that the pre-Stalin USSR was pretty much convinced it wasn't going to be the leader of the red world and really really praying (in their atheistic way) for a revolution in a more developed country. I think they would be a lot more willing to accept not having control over what's orthodox communist thought than later Marxist Leninists and simply defend their own model on the basis of backward Russian conditions.

France had a pretty strong communist movement, but also strong unions and democratic socialists. I imagine those three form a popular front when bringing down the government. The British revolution is probably even more moderate, as in KR canon.
 
Claps what is happening in Ukraine?

Essentially, the Skoropadsky Hetmanate of Ukraine has no support from the Ukranian peasantry as in OTL 1918 and its very nakedly a German occupation. German forces fight peasant revolts and Bolshevik agitators constantly and grain is forcibly requisitioned to fulfill the Hetmanate’s concession of 35% grain exports to the Reich. This leads to a food situation not much better than Collectivization and Holdomor OTL and the countryside is pretty much left to the anarchists, peasant communes, and Bolsheviks when it isn’t being heavily occupied during the harvest. Major cities and their major roads all belong to the Kaiser’s soldiers and Skoropadsky’s auxiliaries though and the strongest regions of occupation are the Crimea, Western Ukraine (helped by the Polish population and nobility) and the Donbass.
 
Essentially, the Skoropadsky Hetmanate of Ukraine has no support from the Ukranian peasantry as in OTL 1918 and its very nakedly a German occupation. German forces fight peasant revolts and Bolshevik agitators constantly and grain is forcibly requisitioned to fulfill the Hetmanate’s concession of 35% grain exports to the Reich. This leads to a food situation not much better than Collectivization and Holdomor OTL and the countryside is pretty much left to the anarchists, peasant communes, and Bolsheviks when it isn’t being heavily occupied during the harvest. Major cities and their major roads all belong to the Kaiser’s soldiers and Skoropadsky’s auxiliaries though and the strongest regions of occupation are the Crimea, Western Ukraine (helped by the Polish population and nobility) and the Donbass.

Where's my boy Makhno in all that? I could see the multipolar communist world of TTL being kinder to anarchists.
 
One thing to remember is that the pre-Stalin USSR was pretty much convinced it wasn't going to be the leader of the red world and really really praying (in their atheistic way) for a revolution in a more developed country. I think they would be a lot more willing to accept not having control over what's orthodox communist thought than later Marxist Leninists and simply defend their own model on the basis of backward Russian conditions.

France had a pretty strong communist movement, but also strong unions and democratic socialists. I imagine those three form a popular front when bringing down the government. The British revolution is probably even more moderate, as in KR canon.

Exactly, I think having allies in developed western nations will also prevent Stalin’s “Socialism in One Country” mentality from taking over - Lenin believed in our timeline that the USSR was in a bind without a German revolution so ITTL with western powers embracing socialism the situation is less dire and the siege mentality of Stalin doesn’t take over leading to the purges of millions.
 
Where's my boy Makhno in all that? I could see the multipolar communist world of TTL being kinder to anarchists.

I like the idea of Makhno remaining in the Ukraine and acting as a popular organizer and as a scourge for German troops, being funded by both Bolsheviks and France and waging a long and bloody war of resistance to German occupation and the Hetmanate. Given the unstable situation in the Ukraine and the proxy war, he would be quite the leader.
 
I like the idea of Makhno remaining in the Ukraine and acting as a popular organizer and as a scourge for German troops, being funded by both Bolsheviks and France - waging a long and bloody war of resistance to German occupation.

That could evolve into a doctrine analogous to Maoist protracted people war, that would have interesting impact if spread to, say, German colonial possessions in the future.
 
The swift invasion by the People's Army has shattered the ROK Armed Forces into disarray, marching through the city after city without facing fierce resistance. The United Nations Command, despite their massive firepower, has failed to recuperate their losses in a significant manner; able to reclaim some of the coastal cities from the south but unable to reclaim back the lands after a failed counterattack.

After years of skirmishes and air raids, an armistice was ratified in 1954 and eventually progressed to a peace deal in 1956. The gains made by the communist are recognized as their own while acknowledging the sovereignty of the remaining territories of the republic. Since then, the two remained in an uneasy coexistence and they begin to establish a robust economic relation.

The PDRK has become the most militarized society on earth, with an ideology that synthesizes the Marxist-Leninist ideologies with a militaristic flair. They eventually reformed its economic system to encourage economic development, albeit still retaining their protectionist policy. Most of the companies are state-owned, with their initiative directly decided by the executive power. Their abundant supply of minerals has made them economically powerful, albeit most of them are spent on the integrity of their military and totalitarian-esque infrastructure.

Life in the People's Republic was simple and grey, with nothing but archaic circuses and military parades to amuse them. People are fed themselves with coupons provided by the governments but the diversity of their dietary are few due to their policy of quasi-autarky.

The Republic of Korea, with the massive port of Pusan and smart allocation of resources, has developed the rural landscapes of the coast into a massive megalopolis - an endless stream of skyscrapers illuminated with a bluish glow. Described as a paradise by westerners, many have migrated to the city and provide their talents for the benefit of the republic, turning the once monolithic country into a diverse community. Despite being economically prosperous, the signs of inequality have risen from its deep underbelly, with many living under squalor.

As time passes, the republic eventually recognized the futility of uniting with their northern neighbors and eventually developed their own identity. Despite this, they were able to coexist in peace, forming economic and diplomatic relations in end.

Here's an alternate link for the sake of it: [DeviantArt]|[r/ImaginaryMap]
Something tells me that reunification would be hugely in Pyongyang's favor by the looks of it.
 

KapiTod

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Here's something I've been working on for a while now.

While not as noteworthy as RvB grabbing your basemap like a fuckin Child Snatcher from Willy Wonka, I too am interested in cannibalising this map.

I plateaued some time ago while trying to make a "Hyboria" worlda and I'll definitely take parts of this to fill out blanks. If I ever get around to it anyway.

The map in question when I left off, purely for attention.

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ST15RM

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While not as noteworthy as RvB grabbing your basemap like a fuckin Child Snatcher from Willy Wonka, I too am interested in cannibalising this map.

I plateaued some time ago while trying to make a "Hyboria" worlda and I'll definitely take parts of this to fill out blanks. If I ever get around to it anyway.

The map in question when I left off, purely for attention.

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GAH!

oh wait it’s a wip
 
It's been a while since I made a worlda map and for now it is a mundane, fun one, nothing too crazy.

Here is an anachronistic map of the world featuring every civilizations in Age of Empires to as per Definitive Edition (yes the added new civs in AoE2 DE but nothing new added on AoE1 DE other than some minor changes, imagine that!). All the civs in the legends are categorized by their architectural styles in-game.
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I also included my own "Ultimate Edition"* version of the map as well.
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And for the scenario for this map, imagine one day ASB decided to ISOT all the nations and cultures featured in AoE2 game and transport them into a virgin earth and now they have to survive by either forging an alliance or destroy each others. It's all up to you to imagine how it ends.


(Note*= "Ultimate Edition" is intended to be a mod and would made the civs slightly more realistic with features from Age of Chivalry: Hegemony and PCM III mods while also kept adherence to the original game's spirit. It add several new civs which made total number of playables civs into 48)
 
Here's a map I made for https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...therhood-a-high-fantasy-election-game.473404/. Since this is the map thread, I thought I might as well post it here. I made the entire thing myself.
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Provinces of Uniszeskie:
1. City of Gaztnow
2. Ceznogrinietzbva Pevodno
3. Gadna Pevodno
4. Velogrinietz Pevodno
5. Ogranicewo Pevodno
6. Beszcen Pevodno
7. Zd Transkyna Pevodno
8. City of Goffe
9. Transgrinietz Pevodno
10. Nez Grinietz Pevodno
11. Cez Grinietz Pevodno
12. Zd Grinietz Pevodno
13. Zietz Pevodno
14. Zubrova Council Pevodno
15. Grinietz Volk Council Pevodno
16. Zd Lietka Pevodno
17. Ceznolietka Ceznovodno
18. Nez Lietka Pevodno
19. Kanjka Council Pevodno
20. City of Dakna
21. Intzbva Ceznovodno
22. Volkno Council Pevodno
23. City of Rakna
24. Novogadna Pevodno
25. Ceznozapadd Ceznovodno
26. City of Ziek
27. Sheva Council Pevodno
28. Novoviskhe Pevodno
29. Potskie Pevodno
30. Garodzka Pevodno
31. Gechan Pevodno
32. Zedenya Pevodno
33. City of Mochka
34. Ceznovishke Pevodno
35. Beloviskhe Pevodno
36. Kutzk Pevodno
37. Tvezno Pevodno
38. City of Ceznovo
39. Nezvishke Territory
40. Novanez Territory
 
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