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The Republic of Turkestan. It achieved its independence from the Russian Empire as that empire collapsed, declaring its independence as the Turkestan Autonomy. Throughout the 1920s, it expanded westward, annexing the Republic of Khorezm (a state set up by revolutionaries who had overthrown the Khanate of Khiva), the Republic of Bukhara (a state set up by revolutionaries who had overthrown the Emirate of Bukhara), and then the Republic of Transcaspia (a Turkmen state that originated as an anti-Bolshevik state). It is a multiethnic secular republic, and was one of the first democratic states in the Muslim world.

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Decolonization would prove to be rough for the Empire of Japan. When the League of Nations informed Emperor Yoshihito in 1952 that the international community wanted Japan to decolonize, he regarded it as a bitter pill to swallow, but that Japan could get over the loss of Korea, Taiwan, and the South Pacific Mandate. However, when President Harry S. Truman of the United States specified what the League of Nations regarded as Japanese colonies, Yoshihito was left in shock. The League of Nations did not simply want Japan to withdraw from Korea, Taiwan, and the South Pacific Mandate. Possession of Karafuto, which Japan had acquired the southern half of in 1905 and the northern half of in 1923, was something that Japan was quite proud of. And Hokkaido, which Japan had annexed in 1869, had become regarded as part of the Japanese Home Islands. Likewise, the Ryūkyū Islands, an independent kingdom before Japan had annexed them in 1879, was regarded as part of Japan proper. So when Yoshihito learned that by "decolonize", the international community wanted Japan to forfeit its territory outside of Honshu, Kyushu, Shikoku, and the Nanpō Islands, it left him speechless. He reluctantly agreed, however, after it was made clear that all colonial powers were going to abide by such harsh decolonization guidelines. Korea was the first of the overseas possessions to gain independence, in 1960. Taiwan followed in 1968. The Kingdom of Ryūkyū was restored in 1972. Sakhalin gained its independence in 1976. The South Pacific Mandate gradually became independent throughout the 1970s and 1980s. Chuuk, Kosrae, the Northern Mariana Islands, the Marshall Islands, Pohnpei, and Yap in 1979, and Palau in 1981. Finally, in 1996, Hokkaido became independent. By the end of the twentieth century, Japan's territorial gains since 1869 had been completely reversed.

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The Empire of Japan on December 31, 2000, before the dawn of the new millennium.
 
“The story of the twentieth century is a story of two brothers separated at birth, one raised in America and one in Africa. Their father was British, their mother French, but as is always the case it was their upbringing that shaped their characters.”- Wolf Hugeson, The Eagle and the Dragon, 2010

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“He has waged cruel War against human Nature itself, violating its most sacred Rights of Life and Liberty in the Persons of a distant People who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into Slavery in another Hemisphere, or to incur miserable Death, in their Transportation thither… determined to keep open a Markett where Men should be bought and sold.”- Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence, 1776

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“The descent from Adam issues forth two radically different lineages, that of Cain and that of Seth. We are told to revile Cain, but it is to Cain that the bible attributes the building of the first city. It is Cain’s descendants Jabal and Jubal who initiate the domestication of cattle and invent musical instruments, and their descendant Tubal-Cain who invents metallurgy. As for Seth- those who worship the philosophy of handicapping eagerly claim him as an ancestor, but the bible attributes not a single great accomplishment to either Seth or any of his descendants prior to Noah who is the antithesis of the handicapped ideal… There are two lines of man, let us claim the one of city-builders.”- Elvira Naldorssen, I Grant You Dominion Over Them, 1901

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The map above is from the year 1815 in my new TL Separated at Birth (link in title). Originally it was going to be a map series, but the first post was so long I opted to go with a TL. The world hasn't changed too much by this map, but it will- have no fear. It has bits of a couple different TLs inspiring it, but most notably it's my take on the Drakaverse focusing more heavily on the evolution of TTL's United States.
 
Decolonization would prove to be rough for the Empire of Japan. When the League of Nations informed Emperor Yoshihito in 1952 that the international community wanted Japan to decolonize, he regarded it as a bitter pill to swallow, but that Japan could get over the loss of Korea, Taiwan, and the South Pacific Mandate. However, when President Harry S. Truman of the United States specified what the League of Nations regarded as Japanese colonies, Yoshihito was left in shock. The League of Nations did not simply want Japan to withdraw from Korea, Taiwan, and the South Pacific Mandate. Possession of Karafuto, which Japan had acquired the southern half of in 1905 and the northern half of in 1923, was something that Japan was quite proud of. And Hokkaido, which Japan had annexed in 1869, had become regarded as part of the Japanese Home Islands. Likewise, the Ryūkyū Islands, an independent kingdom before Japan had annexed them in 1879, was regarded as part of Japan proper. So when Yoshihito learned that by "decolonize", the international community wanted Japan to forfeit its territory outside of Honshu, Kyushu, Shikoku, and the Nanpō Islands, it left him speechless. He reluctantly agreed, however, after it was made clear that all colonial powers were going to abide by such harsh decolonization guidelines. Korea was the first of the overseas possessions to gain independence, in 1960. Taiwan followed in 1968. The Kingdom of Ryūkyū was restored in 1972. Sakhalin gained its independence in 1976. The South Pacific Mandate gradually became independent throughout the 1970s and 1980s. Chuuk, Kosrae, the Northern Mariana Islands, the Marshall Islands, Pohnpei, and Yap in 1979, and Palau in 1981. Finally, in 1996, Hokkaido became independent. By the end of the twentieth century, Japan's territorial gains since 1869 had been completely reversed.

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The Empire of Japan on December 31, 2000, before the dawn of the new millennium.

Okay, this is a really interesting concept, I kind of want to know more about it now
 
Okay, this is a really interesting concept, I kind of want to know more about it now
Both this and the Turkestan map are from the same TL. The premise is that WW1 ends in a draw rather than either side being able to claim victory, the Weimar Republic is established but controls more territory, the Russian Civil War results in over a dozen countries securing their independence and Soviet Russia controlling only a rump state that stretches from Leningrad to the Volga River, the Entente is much harsher on the Ottomans and more friendly with the Hashemites, etc. WW2 is Allies vs. Axis vs. Trotsky-led Soviet Russia in a three-way war where a certain European power restores its monarchy and establishes a fascist dictatorship. The map of the world in 2019 of this timeline is radically different from our own, with said European power losing literally all of its colonies to the Allies.
 
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A map of the Fascist Bloc, the third force of the Cold War, albeit loosely allied to the West. Inspired by the Footprint of Mussolini TL, Italy remains neutral at the start of WW2 taking with it several other fascist European states. The Balkan campaign still happens independent of the war. In traditional Italian tradition, they then proceed to semi-switch sides and jump on the allied bandwagon to dismember Germany, being rewarded a puppet fascist Austria in return. Only Nazism is vilified as an ideology, core fascism lives on as a genuine alternative to communism/capitalism. The Fascist Bloc is steadily consolidated over the next few decades by Mussolini’s Italy - who upon his death is succeeded by Italo Balbo as Duce.
 
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A map of the Fascist Bloc, the third force of the Cold War, albeit loosely allied to the West. Inspired by the Footprint of Mussolini TL, Italy remains neutral at the start of WW2 taking with it several other fascist European states. The Balkan campaign still happens independent of the war. In traditional Italian tradition, they then proceed to semi-switch sides and jump on the allied bandwagon to dismember Germany, being rewarded a puppet fascist Austria in return. Only Nazism is vilified as an ideology, core fascism lives on as a genuine alternative to communism/capitalism. The Fascist Bloc is steadily consolidated over the next few decades by Mussolini’s Italy - who upon his death is succeeded by Italo Balbo as Duce.
I doubt that the Little Entente would join with Italy without Hitler strong-arming them into everything. No way do you get Romania in this group. Hitler twisted Romania's arm into acquiescence to Hungary and Bulgaria's territorial demands. Then King Michael, who had put up resistance to all this, was removed from power and replaced with his pro-Axis father Carol.
 
the Entente is much harsher on the Ottomans

How is that even possible? Other than an unconditional surrender I can't see how a peace can be harsher than Serves. Unless what you meant to say was that Turkish War of Independence was a defeat for Turks and Serves was actually implemented. But if WW1 was a draw with Germany keeping more land I would expect the Entente to be even more war weary than OTL. Which they very much were OTL, hence France signing peace with the Grand National Assembly and Britain not really interfering much in the war. Since parliament and the dominions were very much against sending more men to die.
 
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The International Council of Cooperation, pictured above at its peak in 674 SPE, the ICC was an economic-military cooperative of socialist states established by the USBCR (Union of Sonia-Berdian Council Republics, aka the Crimson Union) in 630. The Crimson Union's influence had been strong enough to establish satellite states overseas, and incorporate numerous socialist states fresh from the revolution into their cooperative, as to assist with their development and create a stronghold that would defend the general welfare of socialism. Unfortunately, it had been completely dismantled by 685 following the end of the Pelnic Wars, the effect caused by Sonia-Berdia's blunder at attempting to invade Ezkrot, a country northwest of Sonia-Berdia, Ezkrot's ties with many countries had triggered a worldwide conflict against the ICC.
 
How is that even possible? Other than an unconditional surrender I can't see how a peace can be harsher than Serves. Unless what you meant to say was that Turkish War of Independence was a defeat for Turks and Serves was actually implemented. But if WW1 was a draw with Germany keeping more land I would expect the Entente to be even more war weary than OTL. Which they very much were OTL, hence France signing peace with the Grand National Assembly and Britain not really interfering much in the war. Since parliament and the dominions were very much against sending more men to die.
Serves is implemented, AND Nuremberg-esque war crimes tribunals are conducted with regards to the Armenian, Assyrian, and Greek genocides due to pressure from Armenia. Since Armenia actually manages to keep its newly acquired independence in this timeline, their request for justice is actually listened to.
 

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How is that even possible? Other than an unconditional surrender I can't see how a peace can be harsher than Serves. Unless what you meant to say was that Turkish War of Independence was a defeat for Turks and Serves was actually implemented. -snip-.

Serves is implemented, AND -snip-.
I dont want to be that guy, but that was two different people, Three times.
It was the Treaty of Sèvres. not Serves.
 
Also, i'm somewhat doubtful the Red Army would stop at the Romanian border just because of the Romanians saying "mmmmokay, we've jumped ship on the German fascists and joined with the Italian ones, don't invade plz."
 
Both this and the Turkestan map are from the same TL. The premise is that WW1 ends in a draw rather than either side being able to claim victory, the Weimar Republic is established but controls more territory, the Russian Civil War results in over a dozen countries securing their independence and Soviet Russia controlling only a rump state that stretches from Leningrad to the Volga River, the Entente is much harsher on the Ottomans and more friendly with the Hashemites, etc. WW2 is Allies vs. Axis vs. Trotsky-led Soviet Russia in a three-way war where a certain European power restores its monarchy and establishes a fascist dictatorship. The map of the world in 2019 of this timeline is radically different from our own, with said European power losing literally all of its colonies to the Allies.
While I like a lot of this, my major problem is with Weimar still being established. Democracy was forced on Germany by the Big Four after World War II, and since I'm assuming the stalemate in WWI probably happened in France, the war would still probably be seen as a moderate success in the eyes of the German people, as no part of the war would have really been fought on German soil. Now, if it's the other way around and the Entente makes it to the Rhine before a stalemate ensues, I can maybe see the Hohzenhollerns falling as a result, but not if WWI is anything like OTL.

Keep up the good work!
 
While I like a lot of this, my major problem is with Weimar still being established. Democracy was forced on Germany by the Big Four after World War II, and since I'm assuming the stalemate in WWI probably happened in France, the war would still probably be seen as a moderate success in the eyes of the German people, as no part of the war would have really been fought on German soil. Now, if it's the other way around and the Entente makes it to the Rhine before a stalemate ensues, I can maybe see the Hohzenhollerns falling as a result, but not if WWI is anything like OTL.

Keep up the good work!
This isn't really accurate. World War I still happens across Europe in this timeline, but Germany is more successful in saving some of its puppet states that it set up in the Russian Empire.
 
This isn't really accurate. World War I still happens across Europe in this timeline, but Germany is more successful in saving some of its puppet states that it set up in the Russian Empire.
...How does it transform into the Weimar Republic while retaining its imperial colonies in Europe? That doesn't add up. Plus the stuff I said earlier, about democracy being forced on Germany at Versailles IOTL.
 
...How does it transform into the Weimar Republic while retaining its imperial colonies in Europe? That doesn't add up. Plus the stuff I said earlier, about democracy being forced on Germany at Versailles IOTL.
The thing is that these aren't really colonies. For instance, the Belarusian People's Republic was an attempt by the Belarusians to establish their own state. The Germans gave them aid, and were using them to fight the Russians, but Belarus was still a state that truly desired independence and allied with the Germans out of convenience. Basically, what happens is that the German Revolution happens, leaving the states that the Germans have propped up like Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Kuban, etc. dangling but still fighting, and these states are able to fend off the Bolsheviks. By the way, democracy was not forced on the Germans at Versailles. The German Revolution started when some sailors revolted, and it spread like wildfire throughout Germany. This happened a few months before Versailles.
 
The thing is that these aren't really colonies. For instance, the Belarusian People's Republic was an attempt by the Belarusians to establish their own state. The Germans gave them aid, and were using them to fight the Russians, but Belarus was still a state that truly desired independence and allied with the Germans out of convenience. Basically, what happens is that the German Revolution happens, leaving the states that the Germans have propped up like Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Kuban, etc. dangling but still fighting, and these states are able to fend off the Bolsheviks. By the way, democracy was not forced on the Germans at Versailles. The German Revolution started when some sailors revolted, and it spread like wildfire throughout Germany. This happened a few months before Versailles.
Alright, I stand corrected in regards to democracy being forced upon Germany at Versailles IOTL. But, the German Revolution of 1918-1919 happened as a direct result of Germany beginning to lose the war. Those sailors you're talking about only revolted because they refused to continue to fight in a war that they saw as lost. Even if it's a stalemate, the Germans are still deep in French territory, and Germany isn't going to see that as a defeat and a lost cause. Therefore, I don't think Weimar would still be established. There may be more democratic reforms in Germany after the war, but the end to the monarchy isn't on the menu.
 
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