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CENTRAL EUROPE - FOR ALL ETERNITY

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This Sorbia of yours would have almost no actual Sorbs, since most of them live in areas around the town you named "Drezno" (it should be Bautzen/Budysin instead) and which is assigned to Czechia. Also Chemnitz would be translated as "Kamenice" in czech.
 
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This Sorbia of yours would have alsmost no actual Sorbs, since most of them live in areas around the town you named "Drezno" (it should be Bautzen/Budysin instead) and which is assigned to Czechia. Also Chemnitz would be translated as "Kamenice" in czech.

I assume that everyone would be forced to learn Sorbian.
 
The Greater Bourbon Empire c.1780
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This is basically a map based on the premise that France manages to win the War of Spanish Succession after decisively crushing the Austrians a Blenheim. Following the Collapse of the Austrian control of the HRE, a power vacuum develops in its former domain with France now formally annexing Savoy and occupying Milan which it now has claims to from its Spanish Habsburg inheritance. The Hungarians who had been agitating for greater autonomy now with French support, breaks free from Habsburg rule. Following a series of tragedies befalling the House of Bourbon, the senior line dies out after Louis XV dies prematurely. This prompts the new energetic Spanish King Felipe V to stake his claim to the throne of France with the Sun King's support before his own passing. Thus the Spanish Crowns of Castile, Navarre, Aragon, and the Kingdom of France are all united under one ruler in a Personal Union set to utterly dominate the European landscape. With Europe now under the total hegemony of the Bourbons in a scale not scene since Charles V, a new set of coalitions and alliances form against France completely ruining the Balance of Power. In Italy, the Pope and the Venetians joined common cause to try and expel the French, But with both the Spanish and French united, Italy became one of the many regions in France's orbit. The Kingdom of England which had overthrown their rightful Stuart King James II had now after facing severe economic hardships from the losses of the war, had been undergoing a Civil War between the Jacobites and the Parliamentarians supporting the Hanoverian claims to the throne. Though with French support, the Jacobites were able to reclaim their rightful thrones. Eventually over the years of continuous rule in a Personal union, the crowns of France and Spain consolidated into a single state which became known as the Bourbon Empire which was officially proclaimed after King Louis XVI/I's march on Rome where he forced the Pope to acknowledge his new Imperial title using the precedent set by the old Kings of Castile who took the title of Imperator Totius Hispaniae (Emperor of all Spain) in the middle Ages. Though while the Empire may look like a unitary state to outside peoples, its internal politics show a different story. The Empire functions more as a Federal Empire split into various Kingdoms all united under one Imperial Court at Versailles. Though each Kingdom has its own internal capitals such as Barcelona, Madrid, Naples, Palermo, etc.

I dedicate this map to @Comte de Dordogne's awesome French timeline The Sun of Rocroi, and recommend checking it out!

Edit: Corrections to the spelling of the Bourbon Empire.
 
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The Greater Bourbon Empire c.1780

Just a nitpick, but in French it's more correct to say "L'Empire Bourbon" rather than bourbonien. Even if you preferred an adjective form, it would still rather be "bourbonais"

Edit: unless France got taken over by occitanians and you are specifically aiming for an alternate, more provincial sounding accent (like how canadiens have a funny accent)
 
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Just a nitpick, but in French it's more correct to say "L'Empire Bourbon" rather than bourbonien. Even if you preferred an adjective form, it would still rather be "bourbonais"

Edit: unless France got taken over by occitanians and you are specifically aiming for an alternate, more provincial sounding accent (like how canadiens have a funny accent)
Sorry about that. Thanks for pointing it out though. I’ll post the corrected translations after I fix it.
 
This Sorbia of yours would have almost no actual Sorbs, since most of them live in areas around the town you named "Drezno" (it should be Bautzen/Budysin instead) and which is assigned to Czechia. Also Chemnitz would be translated as "Kamenice" in czech.
ITTL, Sorbia is not actually Sorbian as you pointed it. The land is instead filled with Ukrainians, Poles, Czechs, Russians and assimilated Germans. All of the Russians and Ukrainians just labeled themselves as "Sorbs" while the actually ethnic group did expand some but is still mostly a minority.
 
The Greater Bourbon Empire c.1780
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This is basically a map based on the premise that France manages to win the War of Spanish Succession after decisively crushing the Austrians a Blenheim. Following the Collapse of the Austrian control of the HRE, a power vacuum develops in its former domain with France now formally annexing Savoy and occupying Milan which it now has claims to from its Spanish Habsburg inheritance. The Hungarians who had been agitating for greater autonomy now with French support, breaks free from Habsburg rule. Following a series of tragedies befalling the House of Bourbon, the seniour line dies out after Louis XV dies prematurely. This prompts the new energetic Spanish King Felipe V to stake his claim to the throne of France with the Sun King's support before his own passing. Thus the Spanish Crowns of Castile, Navarre, Aragon, and the Kingdom of France are all united under one ruler in a Personal Union set to utterly dominate the European landscape. With Europe now under the total hegemony of the Bourbons in a scale not scene since Charles V, a new set of coalitions and alliances form against France completely ruining the Balance of Power. In Italy, the Pope and the Venetians joined common cause to try and expel the French, But with both the Spanish and French united, Italy became one of the many regions in France's orbit. The Kingdom of England which had overthrown their rightful Stuart King James II had now after facing severe economic hardships from the losses of the war, had been undergoing a Civil War between the Jacobites and the Parliamentarians supporting the Hanoverian claims to the throne. Though with French support, the Jacobites were able to reclaim their rightful thrones. Eventually over the years of continuous rule in a Personal union, the crowns of France and Spain consolidated into a single state which became known as the Bourbon Empire which was officially proclaimed after King Louis XVI/I's march on Rome where he forced the Pope to acknowledge his new Imperial title using the precedent set by the old Kings of Castile who took the title of Imperator Totius HIspaniae (Emperor of all Spain) in the middle Ages. Though while the Empire may look like a unitary state to outside peoples, its internal politics show a different story. The Empire functions more as a Federal Empire split into various Kingdoms all united under one Imperial Court at Versailles. Though each Kingdom has its own internal capitals such as Barcelona, Madrid, Naples, Palermo, etc.

I dedicate this map to @Comte de Dordogne's awesome French timeline The Sun of Rocroi, and recommend checking it out!
A great job ! Bravo @Basileus_Komnenos !
But I think your map's a little out of the blue, that's too bad. 😛
Your map is very timely as I have just published the new chapter of my chronology.
 
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Nice map! "Intriguing, but highly disturbing.", though.

What do you think would be the "21st century reaction" to this? I could see that with the advent of the internet and the eventual historical awareness of things like colonialism/19th century imperialism, slavery, famines etc there would be probably at least some people who "demand an explanation" from the so-called free world and would initiate a (possibly very heated?) discussion and unrest - or would these people be considered bootlickers/conspiracy theorists/traitors/[insert name here]?
 
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Nice map! "Intriguing, but highly disturbing.", though.

What do you think would be the "21st century reaction" to this? I could see that with the advent of the internet and the eventual historical awareness of things like colonialism/19th century imperialism, slavery, famines etc there would be probably at least some people who "demand an explanation" from the so-called free world and would initiate a (possibly very heated?) discussion and unrest - or would these people be considered bootlickers/conspiracy theorists/traitors/[insert name here]?
Well, I do have a little roughdraft of the future of this world. Soviet socialism still collapses but it takes place in the late 1990s and moderate socialists take over the Soviet Union but it never dissolves. Zapodslavia is peacefully dissolved and a new Visegrad Group is made to unite the West Slavs. The reaction of the German Genocide by the 21st Century would be the most noticeable in the United States, where a German nationalist rebirth took place during the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s, demanding to bring the perpetrators of the German Genocide to justice. The UK would also later condemn the German Genocide in order to make better relations with the US due to economic woes. The French, Poles, Czechs, and Russians reactions would be like OTL Turkey reaction to the Armenian Genocide. They would either justify it or deny the genocide as a whole. As a result, the relations between France and Russia between the United States and Britain are much more worse ITTL.
 
Map of the last chapter of my chronologyThe Sun of Rocroi- A better Grand Condé which focuses on an alternative English civil war.
During the short Parliament in 1640, John Pym died before he could unite the MPs against Charles I. The latter succeeded in obtaining an agreement with Parliament to finance his second bishop's war. The English army finally crushes the Covenantaires during the year and Charles I re-establishes the High Church in Scotland.
The following year with Parliament increasingly restless in the face of an increasingly despotic Stuart, Charles retaliated by arresting the main leaders and executing them. The rest of his reign was accompanied by a strengthening of the Royal Navy, widespread persecution of the Puritans and renewed tension with Holland. In 1658 a Puritan parliamentarian assassinates Charles I, which causes a civil war. Charles II drives out most of the Puritan MPs from London, but they gather around one of their own: Oliver Cromwell. The latter also received help from a "Dutch army" composed mainly of English Puritans who had gone into exile in Holland.
The map below shows the conflict in 1659, one year after the beginning of the war.
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If you want to know more details about the conflict but also how it ends, I invite you to read my chronology.
So what do you think of the "style" of my map? I'd like your opinion.
 
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Nice map! I especially like the simple style, but I like the dark red and green fill of the countries also.
Thank you for the comment.
As far as colours are concerned, green is often used for New England in America. As N-A had a very large puritan population, it gave me the idea of using colour in England itself.
As for the red one, I borrowed it from a map of England, but I don't remember which one it was.
 
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"Know, oh prince, that between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the gleaming cities, and the years of the rise of the Sons of Aryas, there was an Age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world like blue mantles beneath the stars - Nemedia, Ophir, Brythunia, Hyperborea, Zamora with its dark-haired women and towers of spider-haunted mystery, Zingara with its chivalry, Koth that bordered on the pastoral lands of Shem, Stygia with its shadow-guarded tombs, Hyrkania whose riders wore steel and silk and gold. But the proudest kingdom of the world was Aquilonia, reigning supreme in the dreaming west.”

“Hither came Conan, the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandalled feet."

- The Nemedian Chronicles.
 
Map of the last chapter of my chronologyThe Sun of Rocroi- A better Grand Condé which focuses on an alternative English civil war.
During the short Parliament in 1640, John Pym died before he could unite the MPs against Charles I. The latter succeeded in obtaining an agreement with Parliament to finance his second bishop's war. The English army finally crushes the Covenantaires during the year and Charles I re-establishes the High Church in Scotland.
The following year with Parliament increasingly restless in the face of an increasingly despotic Stuart, Charles retaliated by arresting the main leaders and executing them. The rest of his reign was accompanied by a strengthening of the Royal Navy, widespread persecution of the Puritans and renewed tension with Holland. In 1658 a Puritan parliamentarian assassinates Charles I, which causes a civil war. Charles II drives out most of the Puritan MPs from London, but they gather around one of their own: Oliver Cromwell. The latter also received help from a "Dutch army" composed mainly of English Puritans who had gone into exile in Holland.
The map below shows the conflict in 1659, one year after the beginning of the war.
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If you want to know more details about the conflict but also how it ends, I invite you to read my chronology.
So what do you think of the "style" of my map? I'd like your opinion.
It looks really, really good in my opinion! Albeit, I am a sucker for oceanic outlines, so who knows.
 
Don't know if this is the right thread but I figured some folks may find it useful
These are the territorial subdivisions planned for the Second Mexican Empire, which were actually implemented OTL. Each section is a "department" with a rough parity in resources and population at the time.

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