- Mongols vs. Rome -View attachment 524388
Sorry for the clickbait namethere are no Mongols.
...until finally, in 312 A.D. Spurius Martinus did not announce the transformation of the Roman Republic into the Roman Empire, and proclaimed himself the first Roman Emperor. This, coupled with the adoption of Christianity [1] as a state religion 20 years ago, allowed Rome to enter its golden imperial era. For several decades, northern Gaul was finally conquered, the rebels in Syria and Africa were calmed down, and Egypt was finally annexed. The Mediterranean Sea has become the inland sea of Rome, the greatest empire on Earth.
From the Sunset of the Republic by Paul Enx, Hispanic Federation, 2002.
...the birth of the future World's Terror was marked by a thunderstorm, which lasted 8 days. Young Mulkhal-Khan was the eldest son of the leader of the Merkit Empire's vassal tribe; from the childhood father was preparing him to avenge the humiliation that the Merkits forced his people to experience. After taking power, Mulkhal-Khan fulfilled his destiny and destroyed the Empire, and became the ruler of its vast expanses instead. The Great Khan and his successors did not stop and expanded the empire even further, conquering Central Asia, northern China and the mysterious India, the mighty Persian empire and even the legendary Rome. Unfortunately, the squabbles between his many great-grandchildren tore his giant empire into small pieces...
From a treatise of Kong Jin-Sang on the brief history of the Tahar Empire [2], Koguryo, 1680.
What you offer is impossible. The Roman Empire in 1199 couldn't stop the Tahar invasion, because in fact it controlled only a small area in Italy. Despite the fact that historians still rank various foederaties, warlords, and Germans as part of the empire, in truth, none of them was subordinated to Rome; they acted as an independent state, recognizing only the nominal Emperor's power. To save Rome from the Tahars, you need to find an earlier point of divergence. Probably the Herculius dynasty stays in power? Or Hermina doesn't die and stops the fragmentation of the empire? You need more researching.
Emperor-of-Hesperides's answer in the "Can Rome defeat the Tahars at the Battle of Marcianopolis?" topic, web.parallelworlds, 2201.
Today, on June 14, 1380 AD, a young khan Bartu, after a week-long siege, captured Rome and proclaimed himself Emperor-khan of the revived Roman Empire. Indeed, a very interesting event in the history of both Europe and the entire world. Bartu, who ruled his ulus in Pannonia, was so imbued with the Roman culture; he even had a whole army of Roman historians and translators at court who translated him stories about the great Roman commanders and their victories. Khan himself even liked to walk around his palace in robes similar to imperial ones. It's not surprising that, having matured, Bartu sent his troops to Rome in order to recreate his beloved empire, which at that moment lay in ruins. Thus was born the Second Roman Empire, or as its enemies called it, the Roman Khanate.
Actually, it’s quite interesting how history does not allow the Eternal City to die, constantly saving it from certain death. Thanks to this, the Roman legacy is alive to this day.
From the radio-show Endless History with Bede Libo, New Rome, Mediterranean Union, 2080.
...despite the fact that this film is a classic and loved by many, someone has to say that it's absolutely unrealistic. The actor Faust Clod played a Roman slave, who leads the slaves' rebellion against the powerful Songhai Empire. Nevertheless, I must say that there have never been and never could be such incidents in history. Modern historical research suggests that the slaveholding colonial empires of Africa took slaves from all over Africa, including the post-Roman states of northern Africa, but the Romans were too smart to send them to hard work on plantations or in mines, as it showed in film. Africans made the Romans their teachers or servants of the house, and often even placed them as overseers for other slaves on plantations...
From a review on the film The King of Slaves from the "BoredComedian", 2198.
The Golden Fleet sailed from Roman Hispania in 1520 in search of Roman colonies in the far west. The then Emperor-khan decided to return all the lands of the former Roman Empire and, together with the failed invasions in northern Africa and Anatolia, ordered the construction of a fleet to cross the ocean. The history of the Golden Fleet is very sorrowful. Most of the ships were destroyed and scattered in terrible storms, the crews, consisting mainly of Tahars and Hispanic Germans, were ready to raise a riot at any time. Finally, having arrived at the shores of Augustia [3], they found only destroyed and empty ports. Rising north, they found the Roman villages, completely mixed with the indigenous Hesperidians and vaguely remembering the existence of their homeland. The Tahar army conquered these villages, but did not dare (and could not) to return with such news. Thus the Usul of the Golden Fleet was founded, which greatly affected the history of northern Hesperides.
From The Complete History of Northern Hesperides, author unknown, 1967.
...the world of TL-34 or Gracchus-2 is also notable for an event called the Second Great Migration or the how locals call it the "Finnish Ripple". It was provoked by the fast-growing brutal Red Sky Empire, which originates from the "five civilized tribes" defending the western borders of the Kogurye China. One of the khans armed his army with Korean gunpowder to the eyeballs, got out of the control and set off to the west to build his own empire. Needless to say, this world has a huge shortage of gunpowder, so the nomadic army armed with guns has become a death machine. On the other side of Siberia, the Finno-Ugric peoples located on the trade routes between the local alternate Novgorod, called Ozersk, and the wealthy states of Central Asia experienced a kind of national upsurge. When the Red Sky Empire came to their lands, the Finno-Ugrians did not fight, but followed the advice of a local prophet, or a wise ruler (sources diverge), and moved in huge numbers in all directions in search of the promised better life. These waves had disastrous consequences, forever changing the situation in the regions they came...
The report of the CP-69 "Multiversal irony" research group about the TL-34 world.
[1] Despite the fact that the POD is before Christ, Jesus was still born (he is the son of God after all). Although, the then version of Christianity is as similar to OTL Christianity as Islam is to Catholicism.
[2] Mulkhal-Khan was a representative of the original Tatar tribe that was massacred by Genghis Khan in OTL, but due to historical confusion about the name of the Tatars, I decided to give them a slightly different name.
[3] OTL Florida.
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Gives me strong Munro vibes.- Mongols vs. Rome -View attachment 524388
I would love a sequel map of the world in 2020 and the world in 2201. Specifically, 2201 because I love to see how different the world futere would be from our timeline future.- Mongols vs. Rome -View attachment 524388
Sorry for the clickbait namethere are no Mongols.
...until finally, in 312 A.D. Spurius Martinus did not announce the transformation of the Roman Republic into the Roman Empire, and proclaimed himself the first Roman Emperor. This, coupled with the adoption of Christianity [1] as a state religion 20 years ago, allowed Rome to enter its golden imperial era. For several decades, northern Gaul was finally conquered, the rebels in Syria and Africa were calmed down, and Egypt was finally annexed. The Mediterranean Sea has become the inland sea of Rome, the greatest empire on Earth.
From the Sunset of the Republic by Paul Enx, Hispanic Federation, 2002.
...the birth of the future World's Terror was marked by a thunderstorm, which lasted 8 days. Young Mulkhal-Khan was the eldest son of the leader of the Merkit Empire's vassal tribe; from the childhood father was preparing him to avenge the humiliation that the Merkits forced his people to experience. After taking power, Mulkhal-Khan fulfilled his destiny and destroyed the Empire, and became the ruler of its vast expanses instead. The Great Khan and his successors did not stop and expanded the empire even further, conquering Central Asia, northern China and the mysterious India, the mighty Persian empire and even the legendary Rome. Unfortunately, the squabbles between his many great-grandchildren tore his giant empire into small pieces...
From a treatise of Kong Jin-Sang on the brief history of the Tahar Empire [2], Koguryo, 1680.
What you offer is impossible. The Roman Empire in 1199 couldn't stop the Tahar invasion, because in fact it controlled only a small area in Italy. Despite the fact that historians still rank various foederaties, warlords, and Germans as part of the empire, in truth, none of them was subordinated to Rome; they acted as an independent state, recognizing only the nominal Emperor's power. To save Rome from the Tahars, you need to find an earlier point of divergence. Probably the Herculius dynasty stays in power? Or Hermina doesn't die and stops the fragmentation of the empire? You need more researching.
Emperor-of-Hesperides's answer in the "Can Rome defeat the Tahars at the Battle of Marcianopolis?" topic, web.parallelworlds, 2201.
Today, on June 14, 1380 AD, a young khan Bartu, after a week-long siege, captured Rome and proclaimed himself Emperor-khan of the revived Roman Empire. Indeed, a very interesting event in the history of both Europe and the entire world. Bartu, who ruled his ulus in Pannonia, was so imbued with the Roman culture; he even had a whole army of Roman historians and translators at court who translated him stories about the great Roman commanders and their victories. Khan himself even liked to walk around his palace in robes similar to imperial ones. It's not surprising that, having matured, Bartu sent his troops to Rome in order to recreate his beloved empire, which at that moment lay in ruins. Thus was born the Second Roman Empire, or as its enemies called it, the Roman Khanate.
Actually, it’s quite interesting how history does not allow the Eternal City to die, constantly saving it from certain death. Thanks to this, the Roman legacy is alive to this day.
From the radio-show Endless History with Bede Libo, New Rome, Mediterranean Union, 2080.
...despite the fact that this film is a classic and loved by many, someone has to say that it's absolutely unrealistic. The actor Faust Clod played a Roman slave, who leads the slaves' rebellion against the powerful Songhai Empire. Nevertheless, I must say that there have never been and never could be such incidents in history. Modern historical research suggests that the slaveholding colonial empires of Africa took slaves from all over Africa, including the post-Roman states of northern Africa, but the Romans were too smart to send them to hard work on plantations or in mines, as it showed in film. Africans made the Romans their teachers or servants of the house, and often even placed them as overseers for other slaves on plantations...
From a review on the film The King of Slaves from the "BoredComedian", 2198.
The Golden Fleet sailed from Roman Hispania in 1520 in search of Roman colonies in the far west. The then Emperor-khan decided to return all the lands of the former Roman Empire and, together with the failed invasions in northern Africa and Anatolia, ordered the construction of a fleet to cross the ocean. The history of the Golden Fleet is very sorrowful. Most of the ships were destroyed and scattered in terrible storms, the crews, consisting mainly of Tahars and Hispanic Germans, were ready to raise a riot at any time. Finally, having arrived at the shores of Augustia [3], they found only destroyed and empty ports. Rising north, they found the Roman villages, completely mixed with the indigenous Hesperidians and vaguely remembering the existence of their homeland. The Tahar army conquered these villages, but did not dare (and could not) to return with such news. Thus the Usul of the Golden Fleet was founded, which greatly affected the history of northern Hesperides.
From The Complete History of Northern Hesperides, author unknown, 1967.
...the world of TL-34 or Gracchus-2 is also notable for an event called the Second Great Migration or the how locals call it the "Finnish Ripple". It was provoked by the fast-growing brutal Red Sky Empire, which originates from the "five civilized tribes" defending the western borders of the Kogurye China. One of the khans armed his army with Korean gunpowder to the eyeballs, got out of the control and set off to the west to build his own empire. Needless to say, this world has a huge shortage of gunpowder, so the nomadic army armed with guns has become a death machine. On the other side of Siberia, the Finno-Ugric peoples located on the trade routes between the local alternate Novgorod, called Ozersk, and the wealthy states of Central Asia experienced a kind of national upsurge. When the Red Sky Empire came to their lands, the Finno-Ugrians did not fight, but followed the advice of a local prophet, or a wise ruler (sources diverge), and moved in huge numbers in all directions in search of the promised better life. These waves had disastrous consequences, forever changing the situation in the regions they came...
The report of the CP-69 "Multiversal irony" research group about the TL-34 world.
[1] Despite the fact that the POD is before Christ, Jesus was still born (he is the son of God after all). Although, the then version of Christianity is as similar to OTL Christianity as Islam is to Catholicism.
[2] Mulkhal-Khan was a representative of the original Tatar tribe that was massacred by Genghis Khan in OTL, but due to historical confusion about the name of the Tatars, I decided to give them a slightly different name.
[3] OTL Florida.
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I know GIMP has "shrink selection," which can be used to make outlines. Let me see how quickly I can convert the worlda from here: https://hadaril.github.io/nextgen/2017.png
Start Time is 3:26:00
EDIT:
End time 4:21:30, just under 1 hour. Most of that was cleaning up provincial borders, which unfortunately still have to be done manually.
EDIT 2:
Disregard that, just noticed I messed up Argentina. Counting that, end time is 4:28:40, just over 1 hour.
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My general process was Select > by color > (select national borders and coastlines) > paintbucket tool for the big stuff, then Select > by color > (select provincial border pixels) > pencil tool with whatever size fits best for the provincial borders and autonomous areas. The lakes were mostly manual.
Now that's some good inspiration!View attachment 524477View attachment 524479
The Maximum Extent of the German Commune circa July 21st, 1951 before direct American intervention.
The German Commune was a radical anti-Semite, Stalinist like nation involving radical authoritarianism, partially against the french after the previous nation's multiple humiliating defeats against the french empire, then republic, then commune. The plans Jackson & Victoria, respectively against Peasant's Republic & The English Commune have reached their effective extents across the globe. By the end of the war, the extermination camps against the "unnecessary" were found, which would be called "The Great Suffering." Ironically, the German Commune can easily be compared to the Nazi party in OTL, despite its calls for equality.
Now that's some good inspiration!
Yeah- a socialist state in Germany (assuming with no USSR) would be a paradise compared to the nazis.Well, the message "socialist dictatorship = Nazism", inadvertent or not, is a pretty stale old chestnut, but "expansionist communist Germany" is certainly more of a rara avis.
Its more like a anti-semite francophone expansionist commune, as is why i compared it to NazismWell, the message "socialist dictatorship = Nazism", inadvertent or not, is a pretty stale old chestnut, but "expansionist communist Germany" is certainly more of a rara avis.
Francophone? Germany? I'm a little confused.Its more like a anti-semite francophone expansionist commune, as is why i compared it to Nazism
In eastern Australia.Where is Hongse Fusang on the map?
YeahGives me strong Munro vibes.
Don’t be like this, your map is pretty cool!I hate to be following up such a good map from @Kaiser1871 with a WIP like this...
I'd be interested in seeing the results of the "Finnish Ripple", is there any possibility of a sequel?
Oh, I was not going to make a sequel to this map at all, but your interest greatly inspired me. I will need to come up with 500 years of a completely different history. I'll do it as soon as I have time.I would love a sequel map of the world in 2020 and the world in 2201.