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A follow-up map to my CSA-screw on the previous page.

The Confederate Civil War finally ended with a negotiated peace mediated by Great Britain in 1920. The combined threats of the Yeomen and Freedmen Rebellions along with the bloody stalemate on the battlefield eventually wore down both the Montgomery and Charleston governments. The final straw was the sudden breakout by Floridan forces, whom had been covertly supplied by the United States, which captured the entire Gulf Coast up to the Louisiana border. The resulting London Peace Conference saw the formation of a unity government in Charleston and the Confederate States of America recognizing the Republic of Florida as an independent nation. Florida remains a mostly agricultural country though industry is starting to pop up around Mobil, Tampa, and Pascagoula. Land reform has been successfully, more or less, implemented and one of the major parties is a similar to an agrarian social democratic party. Unfortunately, Florida is still very racist and most of the black population has been forced to immigrate to the United States or Chitimacha. Geo-politically, Florida balances itself between the United States and the Confederate States. It has friendly relations with Texas but is hostile to Chitimacha.

During the armistice before the concluding peace, the Confederate states turned their attention to bloodily suppressing the Freedmen Rebellion. Many freedmen fled into occupied New Orleans or into the United States itself. Seeing an opportunity to extend its control along the Gulf of Mexico, the United States began training and arming the freedmen refugees. This freedmen army proclaimed the Republic of Chitimacha in New Orleans and captured Confederate territory up to the 31 parallel. Chitimacha is the name given to a local native tribe. The Confederate states were pressured into signing a cease fire with Chitimacha but an official peace treaty has never been signed and both the CSA and Florida claim Chitimacha. The prominent New Orleans families that had invited the United States in the first place have immigrated to either to the Untied States, Texas, the CSA or Florida while the creole population have more or less accepted the new republic. Chitimacha is comparably wealthy due to its domination of shipping along the Gulf Coast. While the CSA and Florida officially have a trade embargo on Chitimacha, this has done little to prevent the lucrative cross border shipping. Chitimacha has joined Texas in becoming a de facto protectorate of the United States.

While the Confederate states have been successful in their attempts to quash the Freedmen Rebellion the Yeomen Rebellion has continued in the mountains of North Georgia and Southwest Arkansas. The yeomen in North Georgia have been confident enough to proclaim the unrecognized Socialist Republic of Appalachia. What that really means depends on who you ask. The United States has been wary about the "anarchy" on its Southern border, but the SRA is seen as useful in thwarting European influence over Charleston and as a dumping ground for American radicals. The yeomen in the South were less radical than their Northern comrades and have made peace; happy to live in the Republic of Florida.

The remaining states of the Confederate States of America are slowly recovering from the devastating civil war by relying on European loans. The Confederate States have been keen to court Europe as it remains antagonistic to the United States. Due to the loss of the Gulf Coast, Savannah and Charleston have become the major cities in the Confederacy. The capital of Louisiana has been moved to Monroe though the state still claims Baton Rouge as its the official seat. While some of the First Families lost everything in the war, most were able to make the transition to investing in railroads and industry and their political domination over Confederate politics continues. Because of this only superficial attempts at land reform were done fueling the agrarian socialist Yeomen Rebellion.

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Religions in the Middle East, AD 800 (No Islam POD).

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Dark Blue: Chalcedonian Christianity
Turquoise: Oriental Orthodoxy
Grayish Blue: Nestorianism
Green: Judaism
Red: Zoroastrianism
Pink: Manichaeism
 

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Not gonna write something fancy here. Just gonna say that this is a two-part map centered around the decisive outcomes of each side's triumph. The first one is about Saddam's, I made him annex both the majority of Khuzestan and some chunks of Lorestan since I don't want the map to look ugly. The last one will be about Khomeini's victory over the war, exploring the idea of a fully realized revolution he craves for.

Anyway, here's an alt-link if you guys are interested and the description is down below. [r/ImaginaryMaps]|[DeviantArt]

Introduction

After pushing Khomeini’s forces from the flatlands of Khuzestan and nearly piercing through the heartlands of Tehran, his sudden death has led the country into a bitter turmoil and eventually the humiliating treaty was enacted; with Iran relinquishing a huge chunk of Khuzestan and Lorestan into the fold of the great Republic of Iraq. While Iran was reduced to a bickering secular republic after the overthrow of the Guardian Council, Saddam has turned his country into a power paramount to all of the Arab World and has become the Russian’s most valuable ally in the Middle East; terrorizing the skies of Riyadh and Tel Aviv as the awesome power of their newly-developed nuclear warheads.

Society

Saddam’s ideas have evolved ever since the end of the conflict. From an ideology supporting secular nationalist sentiments and romanticist aspiration for their Babylonian and Assyrian legacy, he eventually overplayed the already lingering aspect of Islam within Baathism into something grander and revolutionary. The propaganda over the era of antiquity is now mixed with the appreciation of their Islamic legacy; pride themselves as the heir of the Abbassid Caliphate.

Many mosques were constructed for both Sunnis and Shiites and Sectarianism was discouraged, even codified within their constitution as a criminal activity within their jurisdiction. Islamic unity was tampered with as the vacuum left by Khomeini led him to take the opportunity in the hopes to build his influence across Western Asia into a powerful force to be reckoned with. The religious minorities are mostly left to their affairs and some are integrated into the government fold as high officials within the government.

A cult of personality was formed around his visage, albeit with his family shoved into the sideline. He incorporated religious piety into something of a tool for nation-building even further, respecting the local clergy and forming a religious advisory council to legitimize his rule. He was also deified as the defender of their Babylonian and Assyrian heritage, depicted as a prideful warrior prepared to vanquish his foes. His writings and poetry, while not mandatory, was omnipresent within Iraqi society.

Military

With a thriving economy after the annexation of Khuzestan combined with their entry to the newly-formed Soviet-Sino Economic Pact - the Eurasian Accord, Saddam was showered with coffers enough to expand and eventually improve his military might. This opportunity lead him to the expansion of their weak military industry into a standardized and refined production line, backed by the consultation of Soviet advisors and Chinese industrialists.
This, in turn, expanded the Iraqi Military from a large but fractured force into a decently-sized yet highly professional army, with officers from the war integrated into the fold. Realizing the necessity of autonomy within the command structure to encourage more means of initiative action, he begins to de-emphasize the cooperation of his soldiers and his regime, reducing political paranoia and increasing the wage to inspire loyalty to his ideas rather than himself.

The size of the Iraqi Army is nearly equivalent to 750,000 men, excluding the navy and airforce. They stockpiled 5,500 tanks and 7,000 APCs; half of them were byproducts of Soviet and American support during the Iran-Iraq War. Taking inspiration from Khomeini’s thoughts, he incorporated religious militias and tribal levies into the fold, even forming an extraterritorial force with the goal of spreading Baathist ideology throughout Western Asia.

But the most impressive aspect within the arsenal are their nuclear stockpiles. Rumored into having +100 warheads slumbering within the silos, Iraq built dummy facilities around the province of Al-Anbar and Baghdad to deceive the IDF, complete with their own schedule and actors trained to take shelter from incoming surgical strikes. They eventually detonated their first bomb within the empty deserts of the former as a tantalizing threat against Jordan and Israel, making the second nation to produce their own nuclear warhead and unfortunate causing a proliferation across the region.

Diplomacy

Championed himself as the liberator of the Arab World, he focuses on spreading his ideology across his neighbors into his fold. They managed to orchestrate an elaborate overthrow of the Kuwaiti Government to install a Baathist regime and supported a coup against the Bahraini monarchy. Countries such as Libya and Syria shared his revolutionary sentiment, with both Gaddafi and Hafez Al-Assad forming an Arabian opposition faction within the Arab League. His Baathist coverts support the rising incursion within Yemen and Oman, angering Saudi and Omani monarchy in the process.

Once neutral over the duality over communism and capitalism, he eventually sided with the Soviet Union to deter the United States and their allies from attempting to launch a military operation against them. The Russians considered Iraq as their most valuable ally within the region after the demise of Nasser’s movement within Egypt, providing them crucial intel and foreign aid to improve their odds.

Iraq has become the volatile rival of both Saudi Arabia and Israel. Tel Aviv was outraged over their sudden support for Syria during the skirmish over the Golan Height through airstrikes, deterring the mechanized forces of the IDF into a retreat. King Abdullah condemned Saddam for making remarks over the support of his downfall and his intrusion over the matter on Yemen. This, in turn, forced both countries into forming cordial relations without establishing formal ties, continuing military cooperation over the matters of the region.
 

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Post WW1 peace settlement with reduced rather than dismantled Austria-Hungary.

What do you thing would happen in this timeline?
Karl goes full federation. Expect that to pay off if Germany goes Fascist as OTL.
Italy's victory is less "mutilated" Expect less Mussolini style fascism, but still prominent saber rattling.
Pol-Lit makes me think Intermarrium comes up full force, actually, scratch that. France has a perfect cordon sanitaire for Germany.
No Anschuluss, and Austria controlling the Sudetenland takes many avenues of Nazi expansion out if that occurs so hopefully WW2 Analogue is waved or changed somehow.
 
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Post WW1 peace settlement with reduced rather than dismantled Austria-Hungary.

What do you thing would happen in this timeline?
Pol-Lit would cause the Germans to retain Danzig.
I do not see this causing the Germans to keep Danzig here. There is a reason why Lithuania took Memel after WWI and why they became a satteliate if Germany for a short while after giving it back to them. You need a port that you can use, and the Prussians and Austrians had a tradition of both seizing areas to keep the coast under their control and then to squeeze those relying on them for exports. What I feel is that the Commonwealth should also have Memel so that Lithuania doesn’t have to go the long way around for their trade, or at least to keep the Free City of Memel around, like was done with Danzig, Trieste, Fiume, etc. And Nixon, the French gave Hatay back to the Turks (along with its many Arabs and Armenians) just before WWII to try buying their neutrality. Kind of like how Turkey gave a bit of land to Bulgaria during WWI before it joined the Central Powers, so as to remove a temptation for them to join the Entente. Who apparently were trying to instigate famine in Bulgaria to prevent them joining the war, so they had a couple motives. Also, if we are to guess what happens in this timeline we need details on if this is the final borders or just showing the changed to Austria-Hungary, the Levant, etc. The Habsburg might also need a name change, given demographics, though I suppose if you throw in some population changed or expulsions for the Magyars and Germans in areas annexed by Serbia and Romania you can flood some- Oh dear. Now the Hungarians might focus on recolonizing land the Germans colonized after taking them form Turks. But yah perhaps now there is the Triple Austrian Crown of Bohemia, Hungary, and Croatia. On a more serious note, the Poles may have more land now as with Lithuania they might not reject the offer the Russians gave them, which involved more Belarusian and Ukrainian land than Polish nationalists thought they could swallow. Also, Ireland did not have that name back then. It was the pink Dominion of Southern Ireland, I believe.

Saddam's Triumph - Republic of Iraq (2020)

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<--- Author's Notes --->

Not gonna write something fancy here. Just gonna say that this is a two-part map centered around the decisive outcomes of each side's triumph. The first one is about Saddam's, I made him annex both the majority of Khuzestan and some chunks of Lorestan since I don't want the map to look ugly. The last one will be about Khomeini's victory over the war, exploring the idea of a fully realized revolution he craves for.
I feel only making those two areas regions might make things somewhat unbalanced. Is Iraq governed mostly as a federal state otherwise? Are the Khuze and Lorestanis considered non-Arabs? You also musn’t forget Saladin, a Kurd who Saddam played up in propaganda. One of those odd figures in history most famous because his opponents liked him while his own coethnics and religious forgot about him for centuries.
 
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I feel only making those two areas regions might make things somewhat unbalanced. Is Iraq governed mostly as a federal state otherwise? Are the Khuze and Lorestanis considered non-Arabs? You also musn’t forget Saladin, a Kurd who Saddam played up in propaganda. One of those odd figures in history most famous because his opponents liked him while his own coethnics and religious forgot about him for centuries.

No, I added those subdivisions to differentiate between Iraq and the lands Saddam annexed. I tried to use some patterns to represent them being an annexed territory but it looked ugly as hell. They're still the same shitty despotate that they are.
 
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No, I added those subdivisions to differentiate between Iraq and the lands Saddam annexed. I tried to use some patterns to represent them being an annexed territory but it looked ugly as hell. They're still the same shitty despotate that they are.
Indeed, I meant to type unitary state but accidentally combined my questions. Hopefully someday we see similar maps to this, with Iraq going into Kuwait and getting the Saudi coast, with or without having Khuzestan.
 
This is the 1948 follow up map for my Red Italy scenario. World War Two has happened, with strange bedfellows:
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Map notes:
1) Admiral Kolchak was forced to admit that Hitler was a worse enemy than Sverdlov when the Nazis invaded, ostensibly over a dispute between Integralist Sweden and democratic but pro-Russian Finland over the Aland isles, actually in a search for Lebensraum. This ironically put Russia in the same camp as the Socialist states and the Liberal democracies, against most other Integralist states. It also allowed to further the Panslavic agenda quite a fair bit, avenge the old defeat against Japan, and rid the world of Codreanu, albeit the struggle has been bitter.
2) Bolshevik Mongolia has fought the Japanese admirably, resulting in the "liberation" of parts of Jehol. Having to fight alongside both Guomindang Chinese and White Russian troops (with their Uyghur allies) was very ironic, but beats having to fight both. It's still the most paranoid, authoritarian and militaristic country in the Red camp, and arguably the most militarised in the world. Technically still accepting the very theoretical concept that they are part of China.
3) Iran's army has gained quite a reputation, having to do much of the heavy lifting in the Middle Eastern Front against the short-lived pro-Nazi junta in Iraq and their reluctant Saudi ally. They've gained a new friend in the process, Red Kurdistan.
4) This strained the relations with Turkey a little bit. However, the Turks had to face Integralist Greece and the traitor French forces in Syria; they've got some islands and a border strip for their trouble. The Turanist far-right has not been banned outright, but their popularity is now negligible.
5) Britain has been giving Dominion statuses like candies to sustain the war effort...
6)... whether the colonies involved wanted it or not.
7) The Finnish-Estonian union walks a very thin line between "Russian vassal state" and "independent Russian ally". Still a Social democracy in internal matters, but foreign and military policy is largely dictated by Petrograd.
8 ) Red Bourkou, because why not.
9) The War has been hard and bloody to the Italian Workers' and Farmers' Republic, but the Nazis and their Yugoslav allies had too many active fronts to deal with to overrun the Socialist states. The postwar order has left Italy as the first among equals among a herd of Mediterranean sister republics, and with bits of France and Switzerland (which the Nazis also invaded in desperation to get around Italian defenses; did not work), as well as Sudtirol, added. The Red joint occupation zone in former Germany is in the process of becoming an Austro-Bavarian republic.
10) The spirited joint Spanish-Portuguese-British defense of the Pyrenees has been a nightmare for the Wehrmacht. Basque and Catalan speaking parts of France subsequently voted to join Spain. Portugal remains Corporatist, but having fought together against a worse evil has made Salazar's view of the Socialists a bit less hostile.
11) Another Red Monarchy. Moroccans have fought admirably against the traitor Petainist regime, and have been heftily rewarded.
12) In the mess that France had become after the Nazi invasion and Petain's coup, Ethiopia has grabbed Djibouti.
13) Argentina, the new global centre of Judaism.
14) Bolivia's lack of direct sea access has been compensated with most of the border areas annexed from defeated Integralist Brazil.
15) Ecuador has debated whether to join the reformed and new equally Red Gran Colombia, but in the end stuck with the looser SAUSR.
16) The Central American reactionary regimes wanted to profit of other Socialist countries being at war elsewhere to get at Nicaragua. It backifired big time, and indecisive, isolationist America was not risking war with Britain over it. It also tipped off Mexico into going sort of Red, getting most of Guatemala for its trouble.
17) Easter Island has been developed considerably as the Red outpost of war effort in the Pacific, however limited it was.
18) East Turkestan has been a loyal vassal to Russia, much to the changrin of the Chinese who lack pretext to reclaim it.
19) Even Tibet joined the civilised nations in the fight, with the understanding that China will not try to enforce its very nominal suzerainty further.
20) The Allies had no patience for Dutch collaborationist colonial authorities in Indonesia and traitor French forces in Indochina. The Indonesian and Indochinese Communist revolutionaries (like their comrades in parts of former French Africa) have proven far more reliable and extremely helpful against Japan. Thailand also got serious punishment for its choice to join forces with the militarists in Tokyo.
21) The French traitors and their local Lebanese Falangist enforcers have been similarly defeated by a Red-Hashimite alliance spearheaded by the heavily armed Palestinians. The Eastern Arab world is now divided between Red Republics, Liberal-Conservative monarchies (Hashemite Arabia, Yemen and Egypt) but the blood shed togheter against the Saudis, the Iraqi regime, and the Nazi allies in Syria has created some common understanding. Palestine is still binational, with Hebrew, Arabic and Yiddish as co-equal official languages. The British felt the monarchies were a good vehicle of "safe" decolonization. Very few people in Egyptian Sudan actually agree.
22) Behold the mighty Australasian Empire. Britain is in the process of delegating Australia and New Zealand jointly with the management of the area, including former Dutch New Guinea, former French colonies (all of them had gone traitor) and former Japanese mandates.
23) The Gold Coast elected a Socialist majority government immediately after getting Dominion status, which is sorta dampening the decolonisation enthusiasm in London.
24) The war has been very unkind to France, where it has been essentially a civil war, both in the Metropole and in most colonies, at times a three-way one. Some colonies went Red rebelling against the traitorous pro-Nazi government, others were seized from it and are not going to be returned (a few bits of the Metropole also chose to do that). The new democratic government represents the successor of the last Republican pre-war one, and is technically counted among the Allies - but France as country is not, since the state apparatus largely sided with Petain (or joined local Red forces as in Morocco). They have got some small compensations such as contested territory from Brazil and a large occupation zone in Germany.
25) Denmark went similarly. Canada took Greenland when the Germans invaded, while in Iceland a local Socialist uprising had British naval support (ironically).
26) Brazil tried to support Integralist coups in both Colombia and Venezuela. Ultimately, didn't work. Here, too, Britain has proved to be the reluctant enabler of the spread of Socialism.
27) The Brazilian Integralist Junta chose to surrender to a small Portuguese expeditionary corps rather than risk to be totally overrun by angry Communist Argentinians, many of whom Jewish. They had to cede a large amount of territory however.
28) The Americans are deeply upset by the current world order. They have joined the war with Japan very late, when the new Democrat president narrowly defeated incumbent Charles Lindbergh following a term marked by political stalemate, bitter bickering, deep isolationism and economic and social malaise. This got them the North Marianas and another four years of indecisiveness. Now that the Tory government in London is distancing itself from the Red bloc, they are trying to construct an Anglophone alliance, but there are many things that Washington reproaches to Whitehall.
 
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This is a map on an alternate New York City I made based in a world where a whole bunch of past predictions of the future that is now as well as scientific misconceptions and obsolete scientific theories of the 20th century primarily are true and / or come true. My partner helped me by doing the phonetic spelling of all of these based on these links:
https://www.ling.upenn.edu/courses/Fall_2014/ling115/phonetics.html

So thank you to them, and here's the plan for an expanded NYC this is based on:


This world is known as the 'Retro-Present' universe

The reason the New Island is made into a new borough is because other predictions say that by 2000 America would have, at max, 500,000,000 people and at minimum 350,000,000, and I thought that since NYC's population would grow so big considering America is so big that it warranted a new borough. I do plan on making this into a timeline eventually.

If you want to help me plz send links of predictions, preferably dystopian or middle ground since I mostly have utopian shit, preferably original sources but I'll appreciate it regardless, and also stuff on misconceptions from the 20th century and obsolete scientific theories from then too, or things from even before then if they are interesting enough, thank you

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Here's a religious map for AD 900. The Sassanid Empire has fallen to nomadic invaders.

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Dark Blue: Chalcedonian Christianity
Turquoise: Oriental Orthodoxy
Grayish Blue: Nestorianism
Green: Judaism
Red: Zoroastrianism
Pink: Manichaeism
Yellow: Buddhism
Orange: Hinduism
 

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Hows the Roman Empire holding up?
Are the Nomadic Invaders Manichaeist or Tengri?
Have there been any fractures in the Christian church thats resulted in sects that dont exist in OTL?
How have all of the migrations in Europe been impacted by the lack of Islam?
 
Hows the Roman Empire holding up?

Okay. It's overstretched. It controls the majority of the territory controlled by Justinian (Spain is lost, though).

Are the Nomadic Invaders Manichaeist or Tengri?

Manichaeist

Have there been any fractures in the Christian church thats resulted in sects that dont exist in OTL?

Not yet.

How have all of the migrations in Europe been impacted by the lack of Islam?

It's not too much different so far.
 
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