Any sort of surviving Alexandrian empire would effectively be a Greco-Persian empire.
Emphasis on the Persian.
Any sort of surviving Alexandrian empire would effectively be a Greco-Persian empire.
I think there's untold potential for Papua. Start with a minor Tu'i Tonga wank, involving greater expansion and sailing west that leads to discovery and subsequent maritime and trade dominance of New Guinea, alongside greater interaction with China leading to the adoption and adaptation of Chinese script. Use that to establish codification of Tu'i Tonga laws that persist in New Guinea after a break-up of the empire, first only for the Polynesian merchant class but then developed to apply to disputes inland. A Polynesian lingua franca and common writing system allows for not only the codification of a consistent legal system but also for the sharing of agricultural techniques developed by the thousands of distinct ethnic and cultural groups living on the island, leading to a revolution in agricultural science and a subsequent scholar class that refines these techniques further, leading to a population boom, leading to a desire to expand outward by a multi-ethnic empire with a knack for integration of local customs and practices ready to swallow large parts of Indonesia and Australia and perhaps even more, possibly as early as 1300.Papua? Panama? Palestine?? This is going to take some thought...
(And should I put "North Macedonia" under M for Macedonia? Might offend some Greek members).
Armenia and Artsakh have their own alphabet.View attachment 518611
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The New Southern States - 1900 A.D.
Part 1
The Confederate Civil War had been the longest and bloodiest conflict in American history, lasting for a total of eight years and taking an estimated 1,053,000 lives, finally ending with the unilateral Treaty of Richmond on 4 August, 1894. From the ashes and dust of the former Confederate States of America stumbled a series of successor states, all incredibly battered by the death and destruction of its collapse.
Firstly was the United States of America, the age old Union that had barely survived the War of Secession all those distant ages ago. They had reclaimed most of the Upper South, reincorporating the states of Kentucky, Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tallulah, Ozark, and Jefferson, as well as the Cherokee Territory, into the fold. However, not all was glamorous, as mothers and fathers mourned the tens of thousands of casualties taken during the ultimately fallen short Southern Reclamation.
The state most discussed in the years following the fall of the CSA was by far the Socialist Federation of Dixie. The first truly successful socialist state on Earth, Dixie functioned as an anarcho-syndicalist federation of communes, with local syndicates and collectives functioning as the administrative arm of the state. As such, the success of the SFD sent shockwaves throughout the world, sparking discussions of socialist and anarchist theory around the globe. Yet as all of this rabble went on about replicating the successes or destroying the evils of this state went on, it largely remained a destitute pariah wrought by the horrors of war and surrounded by unfriendly nations on all sides.
The most notable of these unfriendly states would be the Free Republic of Libertalia, the successor to what was known during the war as "Free Dixie". Initially created as a united front of virtually all anti-Confederate elements that sought to avoid the rule of the Socialist Federation of Dixie, the group gradually split between the Walkerists under Jonathan Walker, who sought to create a moderate, egalitarian democracy modeled off of the United States, and the Taylorists under Jeremiah Taylor, who sought to create a radically abolitionist black republic modeled off of Haiti. As the war grew longer and bloodier, both the Democratic and Whig Confederacies fell apart, and the United States marched further South, moderates grew fewer and fewer, and the Taylorists ultimately grew to dominate the Black Belt, declaring the Free Republic of Libertalia. However, the Free Republic remained one of the least free countries in the Western Hemisphere under an incredibly impoverished, divided, and undemocratic regime centered around Taylor himself.
The sister state to Libertalia, the Gullah Republic, remained in a much more appealing situation. Supported by US aid throughout the war as a way of dividing the Confederacy even further, Free Gullah quickly became a role model for how to run a successful slave rebellion, with the largely community-oriented Gullah culture facilitating unity among those seeking freedom from the Confederate aristocracy. Unlike Free Tidewater, the United States saw the annexation of Free Gullah as more trouble than it was worth, recognizing the tiny nation as an independent partner within her sphere of influence at the Treaty of Richmond. As what was war aid became reconstruction aid in the years following independence, the Gullah Republic grew to become a middling yet stable democracy in the sea of unrest and conflict that dominated the South.
The opposite mirror image of the Gullah Republic, the Republic of Florida, lies far to her south. The republic was initially created by former Democrats in the southern reaches of Florida who grew dissatisfied with Whig rule from Tallahassee, and gained the means to voice that dissatisfaction via British and Spanish arms and supplies from the Bahamas and Cuba. After the collapse of the Whig government, the Republic quickly swallowed up the remainder of the peninsula and declared a victory for Floridian sovereignty. In all but name though, Florida was a shaky cardboard cutout of a nation only supported by British stilts. The republic was forced to abolish slavery in order to gain this support, devastating their support from Confederate hardliners, but was also far too racist in nature to gain support from anti-Confederates, leaving them with no real power base. Even their capital, Key West, was situated in order to stay close to British supplies and far from the actual nation. The future did not look kind for Florida.
Meanwhile, on the opposite edge of the Confederacy, a not dissimilar situation arose in the Second Republic of Texas. Largely governed by moderate, slavery-neutral Democrats, Texas saw her neighboring Whig states engulfed by slave revolts and was horrified. In order to avoid such a fate, the government of the state declared independence as the Second Republic of Texas, abolishing slavery in her constitution but by no means implementing racial equality. While this quelled most ex-slave resistance, it weakened Texas enough that pro-Whig slave owners in Houston were able to rise up against them, the United States was able to take large western portions of the state, and Mexico was able to reclaim her old border at the Nueces River.
Ultimately, the Whig rebellion would be put down with US support, but not without the loss of large chunks of territory to the US as the state of Jefferson, as well as to Mexico. The Second Republic of Texas remained a stable yet segregated republic, with freedmen becoming slaves once again in all but name under the new system of black codes.
Finally, there was the esoteric Confederacy of Sequoyah, which despite its name had little affiliation with the former CSA. Having gained a large degree of autonomy within the Confederate Indian Territory, and later the Confederate state of Sequoyah, the natives of the Five Civilized Tribes sought to maintain this autonomy as the Confederacy collapsed and the US Army marched over the border. The new Confederacy of Sequoyah was ultimately able to achieve this, but at the price of large territorial concessions north of the Arkansas River in the form of the new Cherokee Territory, reducing the Five Civilized Tribes to four. Resentment for the USA remained high because of this, many natives of the territory still admired the "glory days" they had seen under the CSA, and it was rumored that numerous former Confederate generals had sought refuge there after its fall.
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How does Dixie conduct its foreign policy? Are there any states with which it's tried to establish normal relations? Its location at the mouth of the Mississippi is clearly important and, I imagine, would make it a natural trading partner for the US, even if they're not particularly fond of the behemoth to their north.The New Southern States - 1900 A.D.
Part 1
The Confederate Civil War had been the longest and bloodiest conflict in American history, lasting for a total of eight years and taking an estimated 1,053,000 lives, finally ending with the unilateral Treaty of Richmond on 4 August, 1894. From the ashes and dust of the former Confederate States of America stumbled a series of successor states, all incredibly battered by the death and destruction of its collapse.
Firstly was the United States of America, the age old Union that had barely survived the War of Secession all those distant ages ago. They had reclaimed most of the Upper South, reincorporating the states of Kentucky, Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tallulah, Ozark, and Jefferson, as well as the Cherokee Territory, into the fold. However, not all was glamorous, as mothers and fathers mourned the tens of thousands of casualties taken during the ultimately fallen short Southern Reclamation.
The state most discussed in the years following the fall of the CSA was by far the Socialist Federation of Dixie. The first truly successful socialist state on Earth, Dixie functioned as an anarcho-syndicalist federation of communes, with local syndicates and collectives functioning as the administrative arm of the state. As such, the success of the SFD sent shockwaves throughout the world, sparking discussions of socialist and anarchist theory around the globe. Yet as all of this rabble went on about replicating the successes or destroying the evils of this state went on, it largely remained a destitute pariah wrought by the horrors of war and surrounded by unfriendly nations on all sides.
The most notable of these unfriendly states would be the Free Republic of Libertalia, the successor to what was known during the war as "Free Dixie". Initially created as a united front of virtually all anti-Confederate elements that sought to avoid the rule of the Socialist Federation of Dixie, the group gradually split between the Walkerists under Jonathan Walker, who sought to create a moderate, egalitarian democracy modeled off of the United States, and the Taylorists under Jeremiah Taylor, who sought to create a radically abolitionist black republic modeled off of Haiti. As the war grew longer and bloodier, both the Democratic and Whig Confederacies fell apart, and the United States marched further South, moderates grew fewer and fewer, and the Taylorists ultimately grew to dominate the Black Belt, declaring the Free Republic of Libertalia. However, the Free Republic remained one of the least free countries in the Western Hemisphere under an incredibly impoverished, divided, and undemocratic regime centered around Taylor himself.
The sister state to Libertalia, the Gullah Republic, remained in a much more appealing situation. Supported by US aid throughout the war as a way of dividing the Confederacy even further, Free Gullah quickly became a role model for how to run a successful slave rebellion, with the largely community-oriented Gullah culture facilitating unity among those seeking freedom from the Confederate aristocracy. Unlike Free Tidewater, the United States saw the annexation of Free Gullah as more trouble than it was worth, recognizing the tiny nation as an independent partner within her sphere of influence at the Treaty of Richmond. As what was war aid became reconstruction aid in the years following independence, the Gullah Republic grew to become a middling yet stable democracy in the sea of unrest and conflict that dominated the South.
The opposite mirror image of the Gullah Republic, the Republic of Florida, lies far to her south. The republic was initially created by former Democrats in the southern reaches of Florida who grew dissatisfied with Whig rule from Tallahassee, and gained the means to voice that dissatisfaction via British and Spanish arms and supplies from the Bahamas and Cuba. After the collapse of the Whig government, the Republic quickly swallowed up the remainder of the peninsula and declared a victory for Floridian sovereignty. In all but name though, Florida was a shaky cardboard cutout of a nation only supported by British stilts. The republic was forced to abolish slavery in order to gain this support, devastating their support from Confederate hardliners, but was also far too racist in nature to gain support from anti-Confederates, leaving them with no real power base. Even their capital, Key West, was situated in order to stay close to British supplies and far from the actual nation. The future did not look kind for Florida.
Meanwhile, on the opposite edge of the Confederacy, a not dissimilar situation arose in the Second Republic of Texas. Largely governed by moderate, slavery-neutral Democrats, Texas saw her neighboring Whig states engulfed by slave revolts and was horrified. In order to avoid such a fate, the government of the state declared independence as the Second Republic of Texas, abolishing slavery in her constitution but by no means implementing racial equality. While this quelled most ex-slave resistance, it weakened Texas enough that pro-Whig slave owners in Houston were able to rise up against them, the United States was able to take large western portions of the state, and Mexico was able to reclaim her old border at the Nueces River. Ultimately, the Whig rebellion would be put down with US support, but not without the loss of large chunks of territory to the US as the state of Jefferson, as well as to Mexico. The Second Republic of Texas remained a stable yet segregated republic, with freedmen becoming slaves once again in all but name under the new system of black codes.
Finally, there was the esoteric Confederacy of Sequoyah, which despite its name had little affiliation with the former CSA. Having gained a large degree of autonomy within the Confederate Indian Territory, and later the Confederate state of Sequoyah, the natives of the Five Civilized Tribes sought to maintain this autonomy as the Confederacy collapsed and the US Army marched over the border. The new Confederacy of Sequoyah was ultimately able to achieve this, but at the price of large territorial concessions north of the Arkansas River in the form of the new Cherokee Territory, reducing the Five Civilized Tribes to four. Resentment for the USA remained high because of this, many natives of the territory still admired the "glory days" they had seen under the CSA, and it was rumored that numerous former Confederate generals had sought refuge there after its fall.
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That is reflected on the map, but the colors used for the Latin and Armenian alphabets are the dubious choice of #9E2125 and #9E2200.Armenia and Artsakh have their own alphabet.
That is reflected on the map, but the colors used for the Latin and Armenian alphabets are the dubious choice of #9E2125 and #9E2200.
I like this attitude!Sweden; mostly here due to Sabaton.
I like this attitude!
However, that poor lil Siam looks like doing worse than otl (at least in terms of size)
indeed. unfortunately the Armenian red looks too similar to the Latin redArmenia and Artsakh have their own alphabet.
Hasn’t Kazakhstan officially Latinized?Writing systems in Europe, Africa and parts of Asia
indeed. unfortunately the Armenian red looks too similar to the Latin red
I would change that. Don't let official AH.com color schemes get in the way of map readability (I would also change Georgian so it doesn't look like a close relative of Cyrillic).
Really cool map though; I'd love to see it extended to the whole world.
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I’m a bit late, (I haven’t been on the website that often lately), but thank you for expanding on that map I made! It looks great so farOr thinking anyone is going to be fooled by calling yourself "Alucard."
But this is a map thread, not a snark thread. Another WIP: a world map for this scenario - https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/map-thread-xii.307632/page-440#post-10111256
Aside from almost uninhabited Patagonia, "SW Africa" is New England's only remaining notasmallisland colony , which they're holding onto due to diamonds, a fair sized white settler population and not too many black people.
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I'm doing North Korea under N and South Korea as just Korea under K, because I don't think there's enough of a historical break between South Korea and previous Koreas for it to get a separate wank (and then I'd have to do _three_ Korea maps.)
Are you not counting Kazakhstan because the transition isn’t complete yet?Ive done China, Mainland SE Asia and North America.
Ive done China, Mainland SE Asia and North America.