Map Thread XIX

A very basic little map:

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What if the Alps didn't curve south to cut Southern France off from Northern Italy, and instead extended further West, joining up with an ATL version of the Pyrenees? 'Mediterranean' Europe would be more completely cut off from 'Atlantic' Europe. History would surely be very different, even if we were to cast a fairly tight butterfly net.

(This has been inspired by several threads I've seen concerning a hypothetical country covering Southern France and Northern Italy. I figured I'd imagine an ATL geography that would be more likely to facilitate such a thing. To this end, I've used the topographical M-Bam that's floating around here as a base-map. The thread where I got if from didn't credit its creator. If it's yours, please tell me, and I'll give you the credit that is your due.)
 
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Something I am working on right now. The scenario is about there being a China and Japan analogue in Europe. The pod is that there is a Celtic Kingdom established in modern Switzerland around BC 300. This kingdom later unites parts of Germany and lands around the Rhine while Caesar conquers rest of Gaul. Few years later Rome loses Gaul and Italy to this kingdom (becoming Empire of the Gauls) while Rome itself collapses. In the East Roman Empire had a remnant. during the birth of Jesus there was a civil war between Imperialists in Egypt and Senate/Republicans centered in Greece. Imperial family co-opt Jesus and Christianity with Jesus's descendants ruling as Pope and Emperor of Christendom. This Empire has an expansion very similar to the early Muslim Caliphates, while Anatolia and the Balkans restore the Republic. Later there is a short series of Germanic Emperors of Gaul (renamed the European Empire) until Franks takeover. The Empire's religion is Germanic Paganism. Britain is a Japan analogue. Their religion is mostly animism with Apollo being believed as an ancestor of the Emperor and the Sun God, otherwise many Celtic Gods still hold important positions in the British Faith. Outside of the divine Emperor there are many powerful nobles and also actually governing "Shoguns" (I haven't thought about a good name yet). Christian Empire later lost their western territories and the newly independent nations reforming their religion to get their churches independence from the central church(es) in Jerusalem (and Alexandria) (with the Imperial Church also changing, being influenced heavily by Zoroastrianism). Also added a Turkish/Turkic Empire because I made this map and I can do what I want. Islam is butterflied away. This map (once finished) will be set around AD 1000.

Edit: Won't post the map but want to say it (and have it be available for comment if anyone will voice their opinions/criticism) I made Japan and Korea maps and my current plan is for it to be Angevin Empire/Hundred Years War era England and France, with landowners from both nations owning land in other which will eventually lead to war (with possibility a Korean Shogun of Japan for example).
 
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Map of the Commonwealth of the Palau in 554 NA (sikh calendar), or 2022 CE. It was colonized by the Malayans in the late 1500s/early 1600s, with Maoriland splitting off in the late 1700s.
 
POD: Lenin successfully convinces the Bolsheviks to sign the original Brest-Litovsk Treaty, ceding Congress Poland, Lithuania, and Livonia almost three months earlier than the OTL treaty. The extra time and manpower allows Germany to overrun France before American troops can arrive in Europe in force, but ultimately it can get only a fraction of what it wanted. The peace treaty sees Germany give up its Asian and Oceanic possessions in return for gains at the expense of France in Central Africa and its other colonies returned to it (Togoland is sold to the UK), along with Belgian-German co-dominion over the Congo. Also, a young woman named Fanny Kaplan dies in a tragic traffic accident, sparking outrage in the Petrograd Soviet.

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Vladmir Lenin has been growing more and more visibly exhausted, despite Communist Party proclamations that the Premier has fully recovered after his stroke three years ago. There is no one who can replace him, though. Not that Chairman Sverdlov hasn't slowly been increasingly "assisting" Lenin since the stroke. Yakov is unlikely to simply waltz into total control, though. Not when Bukharin and the rest of the Central Committee want to restore communal leadership, and the Left Opposition (currently led by General Secretary Kollontai) is unlikely to side with Sverdlov. But things are looking bright for the Soviet Union, even as Lenin quietly ails. The Whites were easily swept into the dustbin of history, Latinisation is nearly complete, and there hasn't been a famine in 6 years anywhere in the country. But nearly everyone is ready to spread the revolution now, beyond the light adventurism into Mongolia and the East Turkestan People's Republic in the 20's. And with seemingly all of its reactionary and capitalist neighbors on the brink of distraction, the possibilities are endless.

If Germany really did win the war, why does it feel like it lost? Austria-Hungary needs near-constant soldiers to keep the peace, Bulgaria remains friendly but has gotten everything it wanted, and the Ottomans... well certainly they were allowed to feel betrayed, but they should feel lucky that the British and Americans let them off with the territory they kept. And while France does seem to be on its knees, its military government is aligning more and more with the fascists of Italy and Spain. Maybe the United Kingdom could be approached, but its government is barely keeping the fascists and unions from all-out street warfare, and Prince Edward has been making a lot of trips to Italy recently...

Japan remains a liberal democracy, but both the Army and Navy seethe under civilian rule, and a China split between three squabbling KMT factions seems to be a great prize for glory, especially after the victory of the creation of Manchuko. Crushing the Wuchang Government would be especially sweet, but the USSR would look very poorly upon attacks on all their military attachés, especially Special Advisor Trotsky (who annoys the hell out of the Left-KMT but his military experience has served them well in not getting dismantled by the Northern Warlords and the Right-KMT in Guangdong) Perhaps, if events in Europe develop favorably, the government could send all its fanatics to die fighting the colonial armies to the south. That's just a possibility, though.
 
POD: Lenin successfully convinces the Bolsheviks to sign the original Brest-Litovsk Treaty, ceding Congress Poland, Lithuania, and Livonia almost three months earlier than the OTL treaty. The extra time and manpower allows Germany to overrun France before American troops can arrive in Europe in force, but ultimately it can get only a fraction of what it wanted. The peace treaty sees Germany give up its Asian and Oceanic possessions in return for gains at the expense of France in Central Africa and its other colonies returned to it (Togoland is sold to the UK), along with Belgian-German co-dominion over the Congo. Also, a young woman named Fanny Kaplan dies in a tragic traffic accident, sparking outrage in the Petrograd Soviet.


Vladmir Lenin has been growing more and more visibly exhausted, despite Communist Party proclamations that the Premier has fully recovered after his stroke three years ago. There is no one who can replace him, though. Not that Chairman Sverdlov hasn't slowly been increasingly "assisting" Lenin since the stroke. Yakov is unlikely to simply waltz into total control, though. Not when Bukharin and the rest of the Central Committee want to restore communal leadership, and the Left Opposition (currently led by General Secretary Kollontai) is unlikely to side with Sverdlov. But things are looking bright for the Soviet Union, even as Lenin quietly ails. The Whites were easily swept into the dustbin of history, Latinisation is nearly complete, and there hasn't been a famine in 6 years anywhere in the country. But nearly everyone is ready to spread the revolution now, beyond the light adventurism into Mongolia and the East Turkestan People's Republic in the 20's. And with seemingly all of its reactionary and capitalist neighbors on the brink of distraction, the possibilities are endless.

If Germany really did win the war, why does it feel like it lost? Austria-Hungary needs near-constant soldiers to keep the peace, Bulgaria remains friendly but has gotten everything it wanted, and the Ottomans... well certainly they were allowed to feel betrayed, but they should feel lucky that the British and Americans let them off with the territory they kept. And while France does seem to be on its knees, its military government is aligning more and more with the fascists of Italy and Spain. Maybe the United Kingdom could be approached, but its government is barely keeping the fascists and unions from all-out street warfare, and Prince Edward has been making a lot of trips to Italy recently...

Japan remains a liberal democracy, but both the Army and Navy seethe under civilian rule, and a China split between three squabbling KMT factions seems to be a great prize for glory, especially after the victory of the creation of Manchuko. Crushing the Wuchang Government would be especially sweet, but the USSR would look very poorly upon attacks on all their military attachés, especially Special Advisor Trotsky (who annoys the hell out of the Left-KMT but his military experience has served them well in not getting dismantled by the Northern Warlords and the Right-KMT in Guangdong) Perhaps, if events in Europe develop favorably, the government could send all its fanatics to die fighting the colonial armies to the south. That's just a possibility, though.
Interesting idea.
What's going on in the middle East?
 
Pod: An Ice Age began between the 18th and 19th centuries and wiped out the societies we know.

Letter from a Madrian monk to the court of the King of the Iberic Empire after his numerous trips around the Mediterane:

We are 1000 years after the arrival of the Great Cold and our old continent continues to agonize under the eternal snow and ice as the winters pass.
The world has suffered the wrath of God for having strayed from the path to follow. The mighty empires in the north of the Mediterane continent, Erope, have suffered the coming of glaciers destroying crops down to the ground, castles, towns and villages. These ancient empires fought for survival with powerful armies wiping out what little remained of the continent. Entire peoples fled south to protect themselves from the cold towards the Mediterane, causing with them the disappearance of all the known peoples of the time. The numerous wars that followed created new coherent groups of people dominating the last viable lands of the region.

In the West, the Madrian Empire dominated the lands of the Iberic Peninsula and the western Mediterane as far as Italy. Its capital, Madres, already existed before the Great Cold. The kings who reigned there were already coming from the North welcoming their brothers from the north of the Pyrenees. It is difficult to know the ethnicity of the inhabitants and their origin in such a vast and varied empire. But faith in the Roman papacy (despite certain heresies such as "Saint Pasteur", a demigod doctor who can cure any disease with needles of the ancient world) and its King made Madres the first power. With her powerful flying machines she travels the Afrikane continent and brings back many riches from her trade. Many explorers set off in the snows of the north to find the ancient cities of the time and their wealth.

In the centre of the continent appeared the Empire of Mittelerope. This Empire was born from the many peoples who descended along the continent. Over the centuries they formed a powerful federation and threatened the interests of the Madrians. Some of these emperors are trying to regain the legitimacy of an ancient so-called Germanic empire that ruled in the far north. Their faith, although claiming to be Christian, is not homogenous and has many deviant sects that do not recognise the authority of the Pope and his dogmas. However they have aims on the whole of the Italian region as well as the holy eternal city: Rom.

The last of these empires is in the East. It bears the name of an ancient eternal city: Konstantinopole. The people of this empire are unique and come from the far north and have crossed the black ocean to chase heretics from their holy city. Although their faith resembles ours, they do not seem to accept the primacy of the Holy Pope. Their faith is led by many patriarchs gathering in Konstantinopole. Konstantinopole is a powerful city with numerous walls and fortresses. It is said that before the great cold it was by the sea. Their faith seems to be gaining more and more success in the East by repenting in distant empires. We owe it to ourselves to maintain good relations with them so that our pilgrims may still have access to the Tomb of Christ.

We must also keep an eye on Afrikane, which is more and more in our orbit despite its recurrent instability. We need to keep our vassals of northern Afrik as well as our outposts near the great Niger River.
However, we must prepare ourselves. The health of the Pope in Rom is seriously ill and the heretics of the north are preparing to descend upon us.

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Map of the Mediterane continent located in the Madres Palace. This map still bears the mention of the continent "Erope".

I hope you'll like this universe and the accompanying map (I still have trouble with pixel art in decorum) If you wonder what the distorted names mean, don't hesitate (they're distorted with French phonetics). If enough people are interested I could do the rest of the world in other maps like this. :)
 
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Russian Colonization of the Americas - (1673)


Description
Ivan’s Dream (1591-1631)

Russia stands tall as Ivan V took the throne in 1591 after his father’s death. The fringes of its western flanks been secured as the Commonwealth was driven back from Russia and an alliance with the Ottomans has solidified their presence in Europe as the valiant powers in their realm. But while the Turks sail across the Indian Ocean and determine to shatter the hegemony of the Habsburgs, Ivan took his kingdom into the world of the unknown, an alien land beyond the Siberias.

Determine to seize it for his empire before his European rivals could, he invested greatly in sending expeditions and settlers into the fold. More lenient compared to his father, he offered the Sibir tribes and khanates a greater sense of autonomy in exchange for recognizing his suzerainty over their lands and offering military service. In 1629, a year before his passing, one of his retinues; accompanied by their Turkic auxiliary, recounts his journey into the edge of the world. He encountered distance tribes living on the edge of the faraway peninsula, awed by the fact that it’s not a mere island. The man requested a large resource enough to sustain themselves during the exploration and while Ivan’s inner circle tried to discourage the idea, he eventually agrees and provided him with enough men and coffers to organize the expedition.

The expedition found discovered tribes they’ve never encountered and exotic wildlife beyond their wildest thoughts. Some thought that it might the mythical land that the Europeans colonized. They were ready to send the accounts to the Tsar, but it was too late for them to realize that Ivan V passed away, eventually succeeded by his son.
To the land of the Unknown (1631-1651)

Ivan V’s son, Feodor I, continued his father’s policy on the subject of colonization. Uninterested with local politics of Europe and set his eyes on the riches of the Far East, he constructed a series of ports around the coast and an elaborate road system, eventually forming a fleet large enough to sustain and protect their settlers.

The Russians begin to settle on land the local tribes called Alyaska, building settlements and forts around the coast for further plans for exploration. Feodor, with diplomacy and coercion, convinced the native tribes to supply them with an ample supply of fur in exchange for service and autonomy. Despite their cold demeanor, the Russians usually left them to their affairs and usually return to collect their tribute. This piqued the interest of their Chinese neighbors. The Ming Dynasty and the Jurchens, after hearing reports of an exotic land, offered the Russians support in exchange for their own trading post around the new lands and an embassy to keep in touch over the endeavor.

The Tsar agreed to the proposal, albeit with some concerns flying over his head. But despite this, he needs a warm port for his fleet to settle and a populated center to support his colonization efforts. His explorers eventually discovered another region, a land with the warm sea for them to settle extensively. The land is eventually named Chavychia, a named after the tribes that settled around the area
New Neighbors (1651-1673)

Feodor I eventually dies after the recent discovery of Chavychia and succeeded by her daughter, Helena I. Despite her disinterested over the Far East and seemed to be more cordial the Europeans compared to her predecessors, she continued the colonization in hopes of establishing a greater presence in Asia to solidify her empire’s prestige and might.

With the help of their Chinese neighbors, they were able to settle the newly-discovered regions with many worries. The lands present an abundant amount of arable soil and it expanded their network of fur-trading as they meet new people around it. A creole language begins to form after years of helping one another, a combination between Chinese and Russian has become a unique form of communication for the folks living in Alyeska and Chavychia.

But as they eventually colonize the entire coast and pusher further into the mainland, they discover that they’re not the only ones who are settling in the new world. Pushing further south, they made contact with the Acehnese; people from the southern archipelago, and the familiar face; the Spanish and the British. Skirmished ensued as they begin to fight over their lands that they claimed to be theirs.

But eventually, the conflict waned and a treaty was formed to respect their boundaries. The Russians are now claimants of the northwestern region while they stay away from the deeper landscapes of the east for the Acehnese and Spaniards to bicker over.

The settlements ruled by Russia can be described as diverse, filled with folks ranging from the Chinese, Jurchens, Turks, and the Native population. Despite the challenges presented by the first few decades, it eventually becomes a profitable landscape due to the extensive fur trade and agricultural output that is produced. The Ming Dynasty has become more open to the world and Russia has become a melting of many ideas from the East and West.
 
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Something I am working on right now. The scenario is about there being a China and Japan analogue in Europe. The pod is that there is a Celtic Kingdom established in modern Switzerland around BC 300. This kingdom later unites parts of Germany and lands around the Rhine while Caesar conquers rest of Gaul. Few years later Rome loses Gaul and Italy to this kingdom (becoming Empire of the Gauls) while Rome itself collapses. In the East Roman Empire had a remnant. during the birth of Jesus there was a civil war between Imperialists in Egypt and Senate/Republicans centered in Greece. Imperial family co-opt Jesus and Christianity with Jesus's descendants ruling as Pope and Emperor of Christendom. This Empire has an expansion very similar to the early Muslim Caliphates, while Anatolia and the Balkans restore the Republic. Later there is a short series of Germanic Emperors of Gaul (renamed the European Empire) until Franks takeover. The Empire's religion is Germanic Paganism. Britain is a Japan analogue. Their religion is mostly animism with Apollo being believed as an ancestor of the Emperor and the Sun God, otherwise many Celtic Gods still hold important positions in the British Faith. Outside of the divine Emperor there are many powerful nobles and also actually governing "Shoguns" (I haven't thought about a good name yet). Christian Empire later lost their western territories and the newly independent nations reforming their religion to get their churches independence from the central church(es) in Jerusalem (and Alexandria) (with the Imperial Church also changing, being influenced heavily by Zoroastrianism). Also added a Turkish/Turkic Empire because I made this map and I can do what I want. Islam is butterflied away. This map (once finished) will be set around AD 1000.

Edit: Won't post the map but want to say it (and have it be available for comment if anyone will voice their opinions/criticism) I made Japan and Korea maps and my current plan is for it to be Angevin Empire/Hundred Years War era England and France, with landowners from both nations owning land in other which will eventually lead to war (with possibility a Korean Shogun of Japan for example).
Yo what up, me again. Finished the map so posting it. Feel free to ask questions, comment, give criticism, etc. Ideas for the future of this timeline includes a longish Korean-Japanese War, A Turkic and a Tibetan dynasty ruling China at different points, a South China ruled by Vietnamese, Christianization of Indonesia and West Africa, colonization in the Americas, rise of the Inca, different dynasties taking over European Empire, Scandinavia becoming independent or liberated by the Norse, Unification of Russia, European Empire collapsing into several claimants before reuniting and the Christian Empire falling apart, along with some more branches of Christianity.
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I hope you'll like this universe and the accompanying map (I still have trouble with pixel art in decorum) If you wonder what the distorted names mean, don't hesitate (they're distorted with French phonetics). If enough people are interested I could do the rest of the world in other maps like this. :)
I fucking love this map. From the world building, to the pixel art, to the choice of colours, to the border work...

Though, quick question: what do the humanoid figures on the borders represent?

Hats off to you.
 
I fucking love this map. From the world building, to the pixel art, to the choice of colours, to the border work...

Though, quick question: what do the humanoid figures on the borders represent?

Hats off to you.
If you mean the two green "spots" with brown underneath it's supposed to be a northern fir. :coldsweat:But as I said before these are my first steps in pixel art I still have a lot to learn.
 
Interesting idea.
What's going on in the middle East?
Looks like the British still beat the Ottomans, but didn't feel the need to give France anything.

Purple is presumably a Hashemite state, dark green Saudi Arabia, and light green is Iraq, less Kurdistan (perhaps also Hashemite, but separate from Syria + Hedjaz).

I also see a Kurdish protectorate as well as South Yemen, Trucial States and Qatar, and colonies in Lebanon, Palestine (almost certainly Jewish), North Yemen, Oman, and Kuwait.
 
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