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Well, France and Spain are in for so not great times. This is a massive blow to both which just destroys stability and credibility home and overseas. Spain probably falls into a ealry civil war while Third Republic is just dead in the water.
irl you had Spanish troops mutiniying at railway stations and left wing protests across the country, primo de rivera launched a coup because he was convinced there was going to be a civil war if the political crisis continued.
Here's one more map for the RDNA-verse for the foreseeable future. This one, though, covers the "Three Crowns" of the New World, though in practice two of those Crowns are really running it. The DeviantArt version can be found here.

This is something of a partial remake of The Six Crowns: RDNA-verse map from 2011. More than that or retconning, it's also a chance to really synthesize many of the lore details while still being consistent. Also, the subtext for the more fantastical elements is present, though only if you really read between the lines.

Also, just to be on the safe side, this is a work of fiction. This is not a political or ideological screed.

With that, I hope you enjoy! I'm glad I was able to finish this on time. So...Gott min us!

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The Three Crowns: General Introduction

Of the various principles, systems and forms of government among the Free Nations, none baffles a considerable number of Americans and Gran Patagonians more than the notion of monarchy. Among the the oldest forms of governance still in use, if significantly reduced from before the Terror, it's all too easy for to those who highly cherish the ideals of liberty and democracy to dismiss as an obsolete mindset. Contrary to such views, however, not only is it significantly more varied and compatible to democratic notions than is often perceived, but it is also prospering in spite of Collectivism's sordid legacy. And few embody these more than the royalist realms comprising the so-called "Three Crowns."

To understand this, it's wise to look into monarchy’s ability to adapt and find relevance amidst the changing tides of history. Signs of this abound across the globe, whether in the days of the Roman Empire and the constant reiterations of the Chinese Mandate of Heaven, or the ascension of the Holy Roman Empire and the signing of the Magna Carta. The more defining moments, arguably, occurred during the 18th and 19th Centuries. By then, as the ideals of republicanism continued to gain popularity in certain corners of the globe, it had gradually became apparent to the ruling dynasties that compromises had to be made to fulfill the needs of their subjects, share with them the responsibility of ruling their countries, and to keep unifying traditions relevant. While there were significant variations and methods, by and large they increasingly came to see their peoples as equals (whether under God or the law), with themselves as either their servants or representatives. Through reforms towards liberalization and democratization, the present foundations of Constitutional Monarchies solidified, which became the norm by the early 20th Century and would continue to evolve (such as the codification of absolute primogeniture in the 1950s-60s) in the decades after.

The Three Crowns themselves reflect this. Strictly speaking, the term itself is a nickname for the peculiar yet amicably close dynamics between the Royal Dominion of New Austria, Loyalist Dominion of Canada and (traditionally) the Legitimate Union of Brazil, shared by both their respective sovereigns and their peoples. Known by various formal names like the "New Vienna-Montreal Pact" and "Royalist Compact," it evolved over the course of generations from the early settlers. Yet while it may have grown from the intermingling of colonial ventures, feudal commitments and dynastic ties, over the generations a sense of camaraderie, mutual respect and (despite differences in languages and religion) a sense of a common inheritance. This was shared not only by the nobility or the ruling monarchs themselves, but by the 19th Century, this was also present among their respective citizens. The chaos of the Terror, and with it the destruction of much of the old order (including the Austro-Hungarian Crownlands' "Mitteleuropa" and the dreams of a Lusophone union), would further accelerate if not cement this trend.

Simultaneously reaffirming old traditions and forging a new destiny, these royalist powers have gone far in ensuring their survival as heirs to the Old World. Granted, Portuguese Brazil's standing as a great power is seen more as ceremonial and vestigial, especially in light of the "Military Interregnum" (the Braganzas' Lusitanian Brigandine Throne nominally vacant since 1992). Nonetheless, the Habsburgs and Windsor-Romanovs remain as popular and powerful as their respective realms, the historically close relationship between New Austrians and Loyalist Canadians having been rekindled since 1949. Indeed, their clout extends well across the Atlantic to the remaining royalists of Europe. Through the British Imperial Commonwealth, the United Kingdom remains steadfast, if worn-down, against the Collectivist Internationale. While on the fallen Continent, the fortress-state of South Italy, still under the similarly stubborn Savoia-Siracusas, continues to stand strong, even as more of its people find sanctuary in the Tunisian and Italian Greek territories. This is to say nothing of the enduring clout of the Vatican-in-Exile, as well as the crusaders of Malta.

While these lands possess their own problems and are by no means immune to the troubles posed by the Terror's spawn, the present royalists of the Three Crowns remain vibrant partners in the international community: symbols of defiance and groundedness in a brave new world.

- "The World Almanac of Nations." American Federation. 2023 Edition.


For a bit of trivia, the flag and coat of arms used for South Italy have largely remained unchanged since at least 2015, even after all this time they still manage to hold up well.

Some of the placenames are nods and references to the earliest bits of lore made for the setting.

The photographs used for the sovereigns, more than being consistent with the the Wikiboxes, are also nods to both the general cultural aesthetic of the setting and some of real life history. Notably, the image used for Brazil's Regent-President Barbosa, though hearkening to the Cold War-era military dictatorship, based on Ernesto Geisel, one of the figures who set the stage for Brazil's eventual transition back to democracy. Which in-universe, mirrors Barbosa lifting some of the excesses of the ruling Junta.


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This is a sort of spiritual successor to A Right Reasonable Compromise, being made for the same reasons - my Really Big Map Project continues, and I have the same desire to make little milestone maps as before.

The name for this mini-series comes from a very simple idea: historically, unified Germany was called the "Deutsches Reich", meaning either "German Empire" or "German Realm". So a Germany that never unifies would be the opposite. There's an easy choice, here, because "reich" is also an adjective meaning "rich". So, what's the opposite of rich? Well, "poor", of course, which is "arm". This is also the same word for arm, which is Arm in German.

Unlike the ARRC maps, there's no background to this one.
I am gonna try and create my first vector map soon. It will be the Commonwealth of Arcurabo, a federated state in the ABC islands.
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So this is my take on a Personalunion between Prussia and Sweden where there’s a thread in the before 1900 currently.

The Point of Divergence ist that the Great Elector marries Christine of Sweden in the middle of the 17th century. While there are people who say that Scandinavia and Eastern Europe would be of greater interest for Sweden I saw the focus for this state in northern Germany. The northern part of the Holy Roman Empire falls under brandenburg-swedisch influence. This leads after a number of wars against Austria to the election and coronation of the swedisch King Friedrich Karl II. as Emperor of Northern Germany.

The Welf inheritance of Great Britain is butterflied away just like the conversion of the Electors of Saxony to Catholicism. While the ecclesiastical principalities and territories are secularized there’s no large scale Mediatisation of smaller territories. At least not in the scale under which it happened in the OTL Napoleonic time. The North German Empire is stronger centralized as the HRE but less so compared to the German Empire of OTL. The Reichstag of this empire is in Berlin. The light blue is to represent smaller states in the NGE all other states should be recognisable I used a basemap from 1648.

This is my first actual map so feel free to criticize me. Although I know that my scenario might be not that plausible.
Someone needs to do this in EU4
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I was trying to write a writeup but can't really write it now. Will gladly answer any question and try to explain as clearly as I can considering it is currently midnight here. Some short points however:
Equalists: Not inherently socialist. Their main point is about racial, religious and ethnic equality. This was done to keep a hold of their colonies and since a few thousand exiles can't really run a country on their own for a century.
Freedomists: Name is totally propaganda. What they do is that military and intelligence services have a lot of power and so socialists and suspected socialists are often persecuted. Pretty dictatorial in most instances.
The International: result of 4 separate revolutions and several federalizations on top of that. The four (and a half) parties come from those revolutions and the states they established. Thats what the regions to the side of the map are. The actual vote is not so geographically clear cut and divided.
Other: I have some history (there have been changes since the revolutions. World has not stayed static that is) but I fail to put it in coherent whole to post it. But I can answer some things about background. Also how much have I failed in trying Sudetenland and Vienna Award borders (I attempted to do it in the way of Soviet style ethnic subdivisions.) from memory and a 1914 basemap? Also if you think some International subdivisions are too large or ethnically diverse that is mostly because it is a subdivision that is itself federal and we don't see its subdivisions on this map (except of ASSR equivalets).
I'm currently suffering from an irritation induced stump due to my current project, so I decided to take a break.
That break taking the form of a religious version of a map I had posted some time prior.
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A hasty one, but imagine that, an England that is fully integrated into an Alt-European Union thing.
Light Grey=Outer EU
Dark Grey =Inner EU or "Euro" or among the more ignorant, or politically radical, "Germany", even though that nation hasn't legally existed in years..

Note: The capital is Paris, though the majority language hasn't been French in years.
Now, for some background,since I have time.
  • Miguel De Paz never died, and so not only did an Iberian Union occur much earlier, but Spain would end up being becoming an Empire, as in its formal name is now the Empire of Spain. This came to be because an Empress in the 1600s abolished the kingdoms and centralized the whole thing. Spain also goes through an agricultural revolution of sorts and so the population increases to a much higher degree than OTL, and it leaves a mark in the sciences. It's Colonial Empire liberalizes and becomes less of an extractive project, and more of a nation building project. In the nation itself, Spain holds a more tolerant view towards Jews and converted Muslims, and so both these groups suffer a lot less expulsions and cultural destruction. Indeed, Spain goes on to become looked upon as being the home of Jews and Muslims(though, the latter is untrue, until initially).
  • The Viceroyalties become allied Kingdoms in their own right, and contribute to new advancements in science and technology. They're also more extensively settled, in addition to the indigenous populations growing since they're no longer enslaved. They still suffer assimilation though. And that's all I'll say since this is about Europe, not the Americas.
  • Heading back to Spain, it continues to be led by the Trastamaras who focus Spanish power towards colonial projects in Asia, the Americas, and North Africa. European interaction becomes minimal outside of various oversea battles with the English and Dutch. With more incursions in North Africa, Spain heads out to convert the people there, and at the same time, the cultures of the North Africans goes on to influence Spain in terms of dress and architecture, as converted, and later non-converted, Arabs and Berbers head to Spain. Spanish material culture ends up diverging more and more from the likes of France and England, leading to Spain less often being considered "European". It ultimately becomes as foreign to Europeans as Russia is. The saying "Africa ends at the Pyrenees" is much more common than OTL, though Spaniards taking as a sign of how unique and special there civilization is, not unlike how OTL Brits often see themselves as being distinct from Europe. Closer relations with Hispano America don't hurt at all.
  • At the same time, the Hapsburgs never came to power in Spain, and the Netherlands never leaves the HRE. The Netherlands would end up united in the mid to late 1600s, making up OTL Benelux in addition to the Rhineland. The Protestant Reformation was much weaker, and so Protestants remained a minority in the Netherlands and northern Germany. The Netherlands goes through much of it's OTL successes and then some as they become famous for their military prowess in both sea and land. They basically take Prussia's place as a militaristic Germanic state, while still keeping their reputation as traders. The Dutch Royal family also retain strong relations with their family in Austria.
  • Due to fear of Spain, and it's ally France, the Dutch and the English, later British, maintain close relations, while Spain and France dislike them both. France mostly remains a land power though, while Spain does most of the Naval stuff. In time, the Anglo-French rivalry will be eclipsed by the Hispano-British rivalry.
  • Things come to a boiling point, when in the late 1750s, the Spanish Empress Maribel manages to convince the French King, Louis, to make war on the HRE, with the promise of Spain providing financial and material support to the French. The Spanish want this because they want to weaken the Dutch, and they figure a war to do will work in their favor, especially since they don't have to give up too much, with the French doing all the heavy lifting.
  • The French manage to badly ravage the Netherlands in addition to the Western HRE, almost breaking it as they march to Vienna. Though it is a slow march that leads to long lasting occupations on German lands, including the Netherlands.
  • But, then the British manage to badly hurt Spanish supply lines from her sister kingdoms, and since the Spanish aren't too heavily invested in this conflict, and care much for their overseas trade, they turn off the money/gun faucet that they had running for the French. Also, the British go on to "hold" the Dutch colonies in Asia, America, and Africa, and kind of take trade advantage during their time there. The Dutch will remember that.
  • The Louisianan wars, as this conflict is called, finish in the early 1770s. The French are forced to return all the territory they gained, as it became to expensive to hold down and the Franco-Spanish relations have to be broken off for good. Britain, and the various HRE kingdoms, such as Prussia in particular, form a treaty that will see them all form a coalition to attack the French, should they ever try to dominate the continent again. Spain loses its Italian territories, but mostly get away Scott free. The Dutch are forever scarred by this event, and so are the Austrians. The Prussians not so much, and that will lead to issues later. The British are also scarred by this, as they took a blood nose trying to get the Spanish out of the war, and they also return all the Dutch colonies, on the condition that they get a good trade relation with them. The Dutch reluctantly accept, and no longer look at their ally the same ever again. The HRE as a whole sets up a more centralized administration that sees smaller kingdoms absorbed into larger ones that all form a sort of military trade alliance within the HRE. It's big three are the Netherlands, Austria, and Prussia, though Prussia is a reluctant member due to its pacifistic(and Protestant!)royal family.
  • In the 1780s, the new Dutch King decides to come up with a plan that will involve the full unification of the German states, beyond the mere alliance that is the current HRE. When she comes of age in the 1800s, the King sends his daughter out to court the various German monarchs of this plan. She's mostly successful, even with Austria which very much wants a stronger HRE, since they almost lost it. The Prussian Queen is when the Dutch crown princess meets issues.
  • Long story short, Prussia refuses, while most of the German Kingdoms agree, and a HRE civil war ignites. The British and the French, with permission, are allowed to intervene on the part of Prussia as all three prefer a weaker HRE. But, then Russia gets in, and the war ends nearly as quickly as it began, as the Prussian Queen has always sought to minimize violence, which she believes a stronger HRE would cause, but as she is responsible to her subjects, she won't allow them to throw their lives away in a war that has no chance of winning if Russia gets involved. It doesn't help that Britain is also unable to help as well as it promised, as it became distracted with a colonial rebellion at the same time. That rebellion had been charging for quite some time, but then the Spanish lit it as revenge for the Louisianan wars, and even supplied arms to the rebels, in addition to fighting the Brits in the seas and seriously hurting the British Navy, causing it to recognize the independence of its southern North American colonies. It's northern ones, such as New England and the rest, stayed loyal at least.
  • As part of an agreement, Russia gives it's piece of Poland independence under a Hapsburg monarch, as the Dutch Crown Princess manage to not only convince the Russian Empress that they don't need that land with all those pesky Catholics, and that the it would better if Catholics lived with Catholics. She also arrived there by hot air balloon. ( A Peruvian invention).
  • In the late 1810s, the Holy German Empire is born. Later, the Spanish monarch comes to Vienna(By hot air balloon!) to form apologize for their role in the Louisianan Wars and to form an alliance. The Germans take it, and not only gain a long term and powerful ally, with no contesting interests, but also gain access to the wealthy Hispanic markets across the world. This sours relations with the British, but the Germans, who also called Dutch sometimes in TTL, still don't like the British for taking advantage of the Netherlands's weakness to extort them for a colonial advantage. And thus, the Covenant of Empires is born. The Covenant is essentially TTL's Entente, and Spain/Germany mirror Britain's/France's place in OTL.
  • Over the 19th century, the HGE manages to fight several wars in the continent, mostly with French, that essentially lead to German dominance by the 1880s, at which point, Northern Italy is annexed, the Central Italian states are vassalized into a special economic and military alliance, and France is made into a puppet state with a Hapsburg monarchy. Thus cementing France's century long decline since the Louisianan wars. In addition, France becomes a founding member of the European Commonwealth, A German led pan-European organization meant to rationalize and centralize the coordination of the European economic systems, and make the European market as a whole comparable with that of the Hispanic Markets.
  • Overseas, the Germans expand and cement their existing colonies, while also adding new ones. The Germans, when they were the Dutch, had already long controlled part of North America, New Netherland, all of New Holland, the South of Africa, and most of the East Indies, but now they added more of the Pacific Islands, and nearly all of Western Africa, while making an ally out of Egypt. The Germans are the ones to build the Suez Canal, and they also aid Russia in demolishing the Ottomans for good in the 1860s.
  • Focusing on Germany's old colonies, in the 1850s, the German Empress decided to take a page out of Spain's book and give New Netherland, New Holland, and South Africa their own monarchs, from her children, making those colonies into kingdoms in their own right, who are in military and economic alliance with the Holy German Empire. Languages are centralized in all three to adopt Standard German.
  • Back in Europe, the British are not doing so well. Their major colonies are North America, India, and East Africa, and their only friends are Ethiopia and Japan. Overall, the feeling in Britain by the 1890s is one of national anxiety over Covenant power. There is some relief, and anger, when in the 1910s, the new British King Justin, born to Victoria II and the Ethiopian Second Prince, manages to court Covenant nobility, but this falls wayside when he is removed from power by Parliament in favor of his more militaristic sister, Victoria III who's more aggressive attitude is more preferable to the Victor's "cowardice bow to the Covenant". It didn't help that Justin came off as being rather "odd" in terms of personality. ( He was very blatant with his bisexuality and rumors of it spread like fire). In later years, North American historians would consider this the dumbest decision ever made by parliament.
  • Under Victoria III, Britain supports terrorism in Germany by way of armaments shipments to France, and to a lesser extent Egypt. After about several years of this, Germany gets tired and declares war on Britain in retaliation.
  • The war is a short affair that leads to British leaders fleeing to North American to conduct their war from there through transmissions. Meanwhile, the British people suffer as the country is blockaded from the seas by. Eventually, it's revealed that the parliament and the royal family had long abandoned the British people to comfort overseas. With that shocking revelation the country, led by a new government, decides to surrender.
  • Also, though its forgotten by the British and North Americans, the Irish War of Liberation was concurrent with the Anglo-German war. The Irish Liberation Army would be led by Siobhan McFly, a woman who had been trained by the Spanish to lead Ireland to freedom.(At the expense to Britain of course).
  • With the surrender, German troops arrive on British beaches and bring long forgotten luxuries with them to Britain. Cake, chocolate, ice cream, milk. These things had long been missed by the British children and they were brought to them by people who has long been labeled enemies of the British. Soon, more food and medical supplies are brought to Britain. These things go a long way in making the occupation easier on both the British and the Germans.
  • The Treaty of Toledo is signed in 1924 and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland is dissolved. Siobhan is elected Queen of Ireland. England, Scotland and Wales become republics. While the rest of the British Isles become neutral states, though Ireland is pro-Covenant, England becomes pro-German satellite led by the very pro-German(ic) English Socialist Party. The English Socialists have imagined ideas of Anglo-Saxon England, and see the old monarchy as having been a foreign entity that brought Norman Tyranny. (They're full of bullshit when it comes to history, but their social and economic ideas are popular, so most people just go with it.) A permanent garrison of German troops is established in England and even to this day, German bases dot the State. In addition, England is banned from ever raising a navy and air force, though a really weak army is allowed to remain.
  • The most notable policies of the English Socialists(Ingsocs for short) are the implementation of Anglish(English Purism), the total abolition of nobility, the establishment of housing for all English people( to end homelessness), paid tuition to university,paid breakfast/lunch programs for children, programs to encourage German language learning, more rights for workers, and overall make England into a welfare state that's a Teutaboo. England and Ireland later join the EC in the 1930s, and even later, so do the rest of the British Isles.
  • In Scotland and Ireland, the national governments install policies that discourage learning English, and instead focus on reviving the old Celtic languages. Since English has such a reduced grasp in this world, these policies are quite successful, though they take decades to really work.
  • In the late 1920s, the Italian central states are fully annexed into the Holy German Empire. This leads to issues, and lots of terrorism, but by the 1950s, things are pacified on that front. In general, by 2050s, German has become the main spoken language in the Italian lands, while Italian, the Neapolitan dialect really, is only spoken in the Kingdom of Italy, which represents all of the peninsula below Rome.
  • By the 1984, Germany and Russia declare war on each other in response to Japan, Russia's ally, attacking China, Germany's ally. This was after decades of heightened tensions. In the end, Germany is (mostly) victorious thanks to it's satellites and air-defense systems taking out whatever Russian nukes that weren't sabotaged by German soldier-spies. It helps that there had been a technological gap between the two, thanks to German assassins killing important Russian inventors, and the Covenant locking Russian students and scientists from their learning institutions, thus cutting the flow of information to Russia. But still, the war dragged on for 9, 11 if you count the initial Sino-Japanese war, years until 1993, and was a grueling experience for everyone involved. Urban warfare was very common as Russian cities had been preparing for this conflict for years. They couldn't be starved, as most major Russian cities had been installed with systems to make them self-sufficient in food. So, the German armies would have to fight and take the cities by force every time. And these cities were massive. Though Russia had been blocked from learning the other advancements of the world, it still did so much on its own.
  • The Treaty of Helsinki would establish independence for much of the nations within the Russian Empire, while also seeing the expulsion of Russian communities that had lived within certain areas for almost a hundred years, if not two hundred years, such as in Finland,Ukraine and the Baltics. The Romanovs would contintue to rule Russia, though it would be reduced from an empire to a kingdom. It would also become completely open to German corporations and the military would gain permanent bases in various parts of the country, even in Siberia.
  • From the war, Europe would be under German dominance for years to come.
  • By 2015, it had become recognized that the EC would have to further evolve beyond a purely economic existence if it were to continue to compete with the likes of China and India, who had become the largest economies on the planet and who were finally spreading their wings.
  • In 2020, a European political capital would be established in Paris, as a capital in Germany would look bad, and the EC had to give at least the illusion of not looking like a Greater Germany. Paris would go from a really poor and desolate French speaking city on the border of France and Germany, into once more an important city of politics, art, and science. As German was the Lingua France of Europe, arrivals from across the continent would all come in and speak German with each other. Foreigners would also come in and speak German. And in time, the city's population would go from majority natively speaking French, to majority speaking German, as non-French speakers from all over set up their new homes in the area.
  • Over time, national militaries, including the German one, would be dissolved in favor of a single Euro military. Education across Europe would become more mainlined, and national languages would start to be pushed away, though that was a century long process, and there were still quite many holdouts. It really helped that German language pop culture was so dominating and that Germans in general were all over the continent. Various national government ministries would be abolished in favor of pan-European ones. Taxes would be collected on a European level,rather than a national one. Soon the nations themselves would be abolished in favor or reducing them to their state/regional/provincial boundaries and then turning those into subdivisions of the new nation, Euro. The old national identities would become fully irrelevant in time, which was spurred on by how interconnected the world had become, which would often remind the Europeans their nations were. And many challenges, from both inside and outside of Europe, would arise in the in-between of 2020, when the project first made start, and 2114, when it was completed. Challenges such as the rise of Asia, decolonization wars and terrorism, the rise of Africa, the increasing power of the UN(which began as an anti-colonial alliance), the decoupling of Russia from Europe, the controversies of genetic engineering and cybernetics,the Star Race and the relative decline of Europe in comparison to its old colonies in the West, South, and East. But in the end,all of these challenges would further serve to enhance a feeling of Europeaness.
Edit: Can't believe I wasted my time on this.
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One more remark - Transcarpathian region of Ukraine is not majority Greek Catholic, but Orthodox. Quote from wikipedia:

According to a 2015 survey, 68% of the population of Zakarpattia Oblast adheres to Eastern Orthodoxy, while 19% are followers of the Ruthenian Greek Catholic Church and 7% are Roman Catholics. Protestants and unaffiliated generic Christians make up 1% and 3% of the population respectively. Only one percent of the population does not follow any religion.[29]

The Orthodox community of Zakarpattia is divided as follows:

3rd March 2017 was a normal day like no other. Then a person in America crossing states saw nothing. People in Canada found wifi was gone and some countries saw there had been no contact from some of their international friends. Then the news Broke and everybody screamed. Europe and the North Atlantic have mostly disappeared as well as much of the pacific. The screaming continued for days.

After a year, recolonization has been taken place to a certain extent. Global trade has recovered mostly. The US in the initial instability failed to keep itself together and several countries have taken advantage of this. Central America is in the first stages of unification, though it will take a while. And even though the world has mostly recovered from the ISOTs, everyone is still screaming...

Happy spooptober.
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