Map Thread XIV

[B_Munro]

...wow that's a coincidence. In the recent 1776 map game, Hitler was also a drag queen!

Except that in that game, Hitler was a drag queen in Venice, Germany. (rather than Vienna)
But close enough.

Is Hitler-as-a-drag-queen a common literary trope or something?

If it is, it's pretty insulting to the hard-working drag queen community.

 

[schubert_]

hey you guys (and gals),

i'm a longtime lurker here and first of all let me say...this is the best place on the internet..
i'm following this thread since years..and the steady improvement that i see in quality and creativity. AMAZING.

to name only a few here, i love the works of 1blomma, upvoteanthology, b_munro, jcw3..and my current favorite: beedok....you guys rock, seriously. (toixstory..in case you read this...you have come a long way in those years. loved your detailed, beautiful stories.
"Where Hearts Were Entertaining June" put me through some boring classes in college^^).

anyhow. maybe one day i will post a map here, too. but now that the standard is so incredibly high...damn^^

i hope you guys keep cranking out those beauties. you have a far bigger audience than you might think. KUDOS to keeping this forum public.

best regards from germany!


@Beedok: loved this series, will there be a last installment? you mentioned you'd maybe do a 2016 one.
@Jcw3: will you PLEASE, PLEEEEEEEASE continue with your ISOT series? beedok does his alphabetical series, which i devoured^^, but you more or less introduced the whole thing again...your writeups were incredible. every time i opended map thread on a sunday morning with a cup of coffee and saw a new one with a wall of text...bingo^^.

 

[gxblt]

Wait, why did he move back if he hadn't left yet? If the Central powers win, why did the monarchy go?

What of the Hapsburgs? Without foreign pressure they would have held either Austria or Hungary's throne (OTL the Hungarians tried to retain the monarchy but they were denied).

True enough. Mistake on my part.

The Hungarians were too interdependent-minded to have another Austrian as the head of state; the Habsburgs are still around as an aristocratic family but with little power.

 

[Catalunya]

That looks cool. I'm curious about whether the various shades of red are meant to represent well-defined ideological differences, or if the implication is that the world is pretty ideologically homogeneous, with the current divisions being relics from the pre-revolutionary period. On a similar note, are the patches of green an indicator of environmentalist and/or Islamic sentiment in these regions, or is their color chosen because of its contrast with red? Sorry if I'm taking it too seriously. It might be a joke, but it's too interesting for me to ignore.

The Green are nationalists from different countries (Brazil, Ukraine and China) and Islamists. The various shades of red are supposed to show the differend nations but you could say that the redder the nation it's that much more socialist/communist.

 

[Clandango]

So I've changed some subdivisions and borders. Utah now has subdivisions similar to OTL Colorado and New Mexico has a larger Northern subdivision which encompasses the historically (Spanish and Mexican settled) lands. Also the names of the territories have been changed! Now it's California Territory (OTL Baja California), Colorado Territory (or Jefferson), Dakota Territory, Kansas Territory, Idaho Territory, Indian Territory, Monterey Territory (or Colorado), Nevada Territory, New Mexico Territory, Shasta Territory, Utah Territory and Washington Territory.

Would the Bear Flag Republic agree to this? And shame really. I was looking forward to Alta California, Sierra California, and Baja California.

 

[Cevolian]

A dark little future scenario I've been working on... Here's Europe (all I have so far). Questions welcome!

 

[Beedok]

hey you guys (and gals),

i'm a longtime lurker here and first of all let me say...this is the best place on the internet..
i'm following this thread since years..and the steady improvement that i see in quality and creativity. AMAZING.

to name only a few here, i love the works of 1blomma, upvoteanthology, b_munro, jcw3..and my current favorite: beedok....you guys rock, seriously. (toixstory..in case you read this...you have come a long way in those years. loved your detailed, beautiful stories.
"Where Hearts Were Entertaining June" put me through some boring classes in college^^).

anyhow. maybe one day i will post a map here, too. but now that the standard is so incredibly high...damn^^

i hope you guys keep cranking out those beauties. you have a far bigger audience than you might think. KUDOS to keeping this forum public.

best regards from germany!


@Beedok: loved this series, will there be a last installment? you mentioned you'd maybe do a 2016 one.
@Jcw3: will you PLEASE, PLEEEEEEEASE continue with your ISOT series? beedok does [her] alphabetical series, which i devoured^^, but you more or less introduced the whole thing again...your writeups were incredible. every time i opended map thread on a sunday morning with a cup of coffee and saw a new one with a wall of text...bingo^^.

Thank you. I'm just super busy with school and work right now, but want to get some map production going again.

 

[p0wderfing3r]

Would the Bear Flag Republic agree to this? And shame really. I was looking forward to Alta California, Sierra California, and Baja California.

Have Frémont divide the Republic following his victory over it since it was a massive republic. He was Military Governor of California until he was court martialed but, if he was able to divide it then maybe President Polk would acknowledge the new territories.

 

[p0wderfing3r]

Are you going to make one with the alternate state borders instead of the county borders? It's just hard to read it like this.

Yep. I originally started it as a map of subdivisions of the US Territories but now since they deviate from OTL I shall work on it!

 

[p0wderfing3r]

Are you making alternate (western) US states?

Sort of. It started out as a map of the subdivisions of the Western United States but I guess it turned into that. I'm working now on making them states, without the subdivisions.

 

[Utgard96]

Have Frémont divide the Republic following his victory over it since it was a massive republic. He was Military Governor of California until he was court martialed but, if he was able to divide it then maybe President Polk would acknowledge the new territories.

He wouldn't have the authority. The formation of a new territory requires Congress to pass an Organic Act.

 

[Troyer IV]

Finally got around to doing something in the way of a key and legend. Central powers with more chums and more preparedness beat off the French and the Brits who fall into despair and fascism. The Ottomans collapse into a communist revolution. China solidifies and Japan gets over it's goth phase. Russian civil war is longer, bloodier, and the central powers have time to intervene. The Weltzollverein and the increasingly friendly Japanese are now facing a revanchist Soviet Union with access to the Gulf oil allied to a socialist America. The fascist half of the planet is not happy with them, either. Luckily the Comintern and the Paris Council are at odds with each other as well.

Where is #8?

 

[Clandango]

He wouldn't have the authority. The formation of a new territory requires Congress to pass an Organic Act.

Though he could probably keep Baja seperate easilly, since that was a seperate territory even in Mexico.

 

[Utgard96]

Though he could probably keep Baja seperate easilly, since that was a seperate territory even in Mexico.

Possibly, assuming he's in charge of the whole Mexican Cession - we don't really have any OTL precedent for Baja since it was ignored by the treaty.

 

[Clandango]

Possibly, assuming he's in charge of the whole Mexican Cession - we don't really have any OTL precedent for Baja since it was ignored by the treaty.

Indeed. More likely that he doesn't actually split up California into territories of course, but just have larger sub-divisions within it for ease of administration.

 

[InfernoMole]

Make Earth Great Again.

Senegal, Ghana: "Please don't let it touch us, please don't let it touch us..."

What's up with Russia? European Union? Kenya? South Africa?

 

[gxblt]

Where is #8?

I am not quite sure. Not on the map at least.

 

[Analytical Engine]

Where is #8?

It's been eaten by B_Munro-ism.

 

[Tsochar]

And as a follow-up to my previous alternate states map, here is a map of the 2016 red-blue divide in states, based on my estimates. My methodology was pretty basic; I looked at the 3-7 most populous counties in each state and colored it red or blue based on who won most of them. Since full results aren't out yet, this is mostly guesswork.

Clinton: 38 states
Trump: 45 states

 

[roman8761]

heres an atl 1931 where wwi never happened, china won a war(with the help of russia) against the europeans and japaneses and anti imperial and anti colonial revolts happened around the world.