I'm guessing Texas and California's 'local' identities are so much stronger then?
Also, proper irony that the Spanish American lands are relatively more unified versus Anglo-America. This feels fun, an eternal '1840s World' in the Americas.
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I'm guessing Texas and California's 'local' identities are so much stronger then?
Also, proper irony that the Spanish American lands are relatively more unified versus Anglo-America. This feels fun, an eternal '1840s World' in the Americas.
It's interesting though to have Southwest Africa (Namibia), northeastern New Guinea and the Bismarck Archipelago in the Empire though, given what all it lacks.Given that Canada is doing fine, more likely bloodthirsty Fabians.
Zek Sora
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Oh yeah, especially that of California. The Gold Rush brought in a lot of immigrants who felt no ties to the US or the UK (the early Californian government was basically unable to stop immigrants from entering and they needed more warm bodies, so they basically didn't try), and they've pretty much molded into more of a "Californian" identity.
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Isaac Beach
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Roit, here's another Rehash. This time of this map, http://dain-siegfried.deviantart.com/art/On-Gilded-Shores-546892581. As you can see, I've taken it in a very different direction. The POD is that the American Revolution takes some political turns and ends up a monarchy, probably with Washington or some sort on the throne. This makes the French Revolution a rather more conservative affair, though Napoleon still becomes King -if not Emperor- and generally beats up the neighbours before taking a seat and ruling over a centralised and only slightly less feudal kingdom. This means that Spain isn't invaded, so they remain fairly stable and their Empire with them. (This has the side effect of leaving rather larger countries when they do leave in the mid-1840s, many of them as monarchies.)
Mexico, however, struck out on its own and broke off earlier than the rest of Latin America in the 1830s. They declared themselves an Empire for having claimed most of Louisiana after a brief conflict with the British and then relations between them and the United Kingdom of America (Or whatever it may be called, I hadn't really thought about it to be honest) really took off. With the UKA wanting to expand but with no capacity to do so and the Mexican government aware of all the white settlers moving across the border they eventually came to the conclusion that they would either need to see a union or conflict. The former was preferable and was brought to fruition in 1863 when the Queen of America married the Emperor of Mexico; the Empire of Gran Cordoba was the result. (I like the name) However, with the seat of power clearly moving to Mexico City and the issue of slavery being set back at least two decades due to the Empire's 'meh' policy on it, the abolitionist north-east rebelled in 1868 and with support from the British successfully broke off and was recognised in 1871 as the Republic of New England. (A name those around the Great Lakes and New York bitch about incessantly)
Meanwhile, the 'cold war' between Napoleonic France and Hapsburg Austria continued, with Austria beating up French ally Prussia and France storming through Hapsburg Italy and much of the HRE. The HEIC never really lost control of India due to a largely distracted and unconcerned London and had the longest time to try and test various administrative functions until they eventually evolved into the domineering Asian corporatocracy they are now. Russia burst at the seams from lack of political reform while technologies quietly improved into rebellion and was overtaken by alt-Green Armies led by an Alt-Aleksandr Antonov which was a pretty positive result for many of their neighbours that would have suffered OTL as the Ottomans and Persia. Japan was crushed by the Cordobans and occupied by the HEIC as a sort of country sized Hong Kong which scared the bejeebuz out of some of the smarter heads in China -specifically the commanderies- who asked via Cordoban Hokkaido to support their overthrow of the Qing regime. It worked, and they became a stalwart Cordoban ally.
Now this funny little arrangement has sorted itself out, as per the map, circa 1930.
Roit, here's another Rehash. This time of this map, http://dain-siegfried.deviantart.com/art/On-Gilded-Shores-546892581. As you can see, I've taken it in a very different direction. The POD is that the American Revolution takes some political turns and ends up a monarchy, probably with Washington or some sort on the throne. This makes the French Revolution a rather more conservative affair, though Napoleon still becomes King -if not Emperor- and generally beats up the neighbours before taking a seat and ruling over a centralised and only slightly less feudal kingdom. This means that Spain isn't invaded, so they remain fairly stable and their Empire with them. (This has the side effect of leaving rather larger countries when they do leave in the mid-1840s, many of them as monarchies.)
Mexico, however, struck out on its own and broke off earlier than the rest of Latin America in the 1830s. They declared themselves an Empire for having claimed most of Louisiana after a brief conflict with the British and then relations between them and the United Kingdom of America (Or whatever it may be called, I hadn't really thought about it to be honest) really took off. With the UKA wanting to expand but with no capacity to do so and the Mexican government aware of all the white settlers moving across the border they eventually came to the conclusion that they would either need to see a union or conflict. The former was preferable and was brought to fruition in 1863 when the Queen of America married the Emperor of Mexico; the Empire of Gran Cordoba was the result. (I like the name) However, with the seat of power clearly moving to Mexico City and the issue of slavery being set back at least two decades due to the Empire's 'meh' policy on it, the abolitionist north-east rebelled in 1868 and with support from the British successfully broke off and was recognised in 1871 as the Republic of New England. (A name those around the Great Lakes and New York bitch about incessantly)
Meanwhile, the 'cold war' between Napoleonic France and Hapsburg Austria continued, with Austria beating up French ally Prussia and France storming through Hapsburg Italy and much of the HRE. The HEIC never really lost control of India due to a largely distracted and unconcerned London and had the longest time to try and test various administrative functions until they eventually evolved into the domineering Asian corporatocracy they are now. Russia burst at the seams from lack of political reform while technologies quietly improved into rebellion and was overtaken by alt-Green Armies led by an Alt-Aleksandr Antonov which was a pretty positive result for many of their neighbours that would have suffered OTL as the Ottomans and Persia. Japan was crushed by the Cordobans and occupied by the HEIC as a sort of country sized Hong Kong which scared the bejeebuz out of some of the smarter heads in China -specifically the commanderies- who asked via Cordoban Hokkaido to support their overthrow of the Qing regime. It worked, and they became a stalwart Cordoban ally.
Now this funny little arrangement has sorted itself out, as per the map, circa 1930.
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Well, the United Europe map is 1868, so it's only very moderately eternal at this point.
It's an interesting concept, but the whole "Catholicism" thing strikes me as a bit of a show-stopper, not to mention that OTL post-revolutionary USians, north or south, would never accept a capital in Mexico City. Heck, dynastic unions where the unified countries turned into a single state weren't even really a thing in the 19th century...probably need an earlier POD with a Catholic Jacobite Kingdom of Virginia or something uniting with Mexico.
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Always interesting to see a US with different political arrangements. When you say "the Confederacy's ability to halt migration from these areas northwards", you mean "The US government's ability to halt migration", no? Since they no longer are their property, why would the Southerners care if blacks from the Free Republics go north to bug the Yankees?
Isaac Beach
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Yano until you said that I had completely glossed over the religion thing. Hadn't occurred to me at all, not even when writing about the Roman Estates. Damn, that's my bad and big bad it is. Well no, the capital isn't in Mexico City though I've seemed to imply that. Both capitals are still legitimate, Washington and Mexico City, but Mexico City is the more powerful one. Like how New York is disproportionately powerful compared to the rest of the US. God, I really can't believe I missed the big 'Catholics vs Protestants' thing though, that really hadn't arisen in my head and you'd think it would having working on it for a week.
Zek Sora
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Well, the United Europe map is 1868, so it's only very moderately eternal at this point.
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How are the Algerians contributing to this? They want their own Berbers to keep quite or are they fine with seeing their regional rival be rocked around, as well as giving them someplace for their own dissatisfied Berbers to go to? And the Spanish still right wing? I can see this as the perfect thing for them. If they can just get Tangier international again, use a slice in the north for a rump Kingdom of Morrocco... Not a Reconquista, but plenty fun could be had setting up clients.
Goldstein
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Algeria is actively contributing to destabilize their rival to the west. As for Spain, it still had a Transition as IOTL, but it's not in their geopolitical interests to have a Baathist neighbour to the south. The Rif Republic exists mostly with Spanish aid. The Moroccan regime is trying to erase the Spanish influence in Tangier and Tetouan, and Spain is funding Regionalist groups in the area, so far with little success.
Yeah, it definitely makes more sense if the federal government regulates that matter.
WIP map of a world in which the analytic engine and difference engine are adopted widely in Britain, whilst the country also takes up an alt-Livingstone's crusade in the Congo. Pretty pleased with how Africa is going so far.
Upvoteanthology
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Dumb map I made quickly to prove I'm still making maps. I'm trying to finish a lot of commissions at once, so this is just something to show I'm still alive.
I'm trying to finish a lot of commissions at once, so this is just something to show I'm still alive.
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