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That's a big Texas...
:D...yes...it is
We need a key.

Also, I think there are a few too many straight lines.
See below for rough key, what do you mean too many straight lines?
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Indian territory north america.png
 
:D...yes...it is

See below for rough key, what do you mean too many straight lines?
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Although I really like the map(don't worry about the lines!).....I honestly can't see California, or *Utah, ever plausibly being part of Super-Texas here. Might I suggest creating a *Republic of California(including Utah, if you'd rather not do Deseret)? That is the *one* thing I would change.
 
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shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
See below for rough key, what do you mean too many straight lines?
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Looks better already :)

The straight line thing is more a pet peeve, it's just straight borders are unnatural and I would expect native majority states, especially the ones bordering Texas, to fit in more with the natural geography of the region.

Still, it's good. I like that this Deseret isn't Utah, and the abundance of native states. For the Indian Nation, may I suggest Oklahoma (which derives from the Choctaw for 'Red People') or Chactaw Federation?

I do agree with CaliBoy though, Texas is a wee bit big.
 
Although I really like the map(don't worry about the lines!).....I honestly can't see California, or *Utah, ever plausibly being part of Super-Texas here. Might I suggest creating a *Republic of California(including Utah, if you'd rather not do Deseret)? That is the *one* thing I would change.
Thanks. Yeah I origanal had a a california republic but I seem to always do that so I thought I'd mix it this time. I might change it I'll think about it.
Looks better already :)

The straight line thing is more a pet peeve, it's just straight borders are unnatural and I would expect native majority states, especially the ones bordering Texas, to fit in more with the natural geography of the region.

Still, it's good. I like that this Deseret isn't Utah, and the abundance of native states. For the Indian Nation, may I suggest Oklahoma (which derives from the Choctaw for 'Red People') or Chactaw Federation?

I do agree with CaliBoy though, Texas is a wee bit big.
Yeah I agree. I'd love to do nature borders but I lack the resouses to know what to do for them. If you had any ideas I'd love to hear them.
I thought I'd be a nice change having them in Missouri.
Chactaw federation sounds good. Thanks.

Ps-who doesn't love a good Texas wank
 
So, there's That Damn Khazak Border (TM) which ITTL is not a border but the range of a rebellion? All I can say is WOW. You turned a bad cliché into something new.

That's not the OTL Kazakh border shown in his map; if you mean the general shape, well there is the fact that while the exact little intricacies of the OTL Kazakh border are random, the general shape pretty closely matches the ranges of the historic Kazakh tribal confederations.
 
Why is real Yucatan coloured with Texas Yellow and Dominican Republic is Yucatan Teal? Etymology butterflies?:D
 
Found an old map in my files today, a Munroified map of the world in the (rather, ah, optimistic) TL from General Zod on a successful Valkyrie, set 15 years after the end of WWII. A link here, though I'll warn you in advance to prepare for an ungodly amount of fighting over the plausibility of the scenario.

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That world looks quite a bit less cheery than ours. I can imagine a war in the Balkans in future (I think that Kingdom of Romania has a lot of Serbs and Magyars?).
 
That world looks quite a bit less cheery than ours. I can imagine a war in the Balkans in future (I think that Kingdom of Romania has a lot of Serbs and Magyars?).

Oh, it's quite the throne of bayonets. The Magyars mainly fled to Transylvania (Horthy wanted to tip that population pie in Hungary's favour) but the Serbs are very much a fifth column. As they are in Croatia, naturally (no doubt some very unpleasant things are still going on). The Soviets still aren't angels themselves: a lot of dead Germans in Yakutia, and still the odd gulag which wasn't shut down after 1949.

And yes, I felt Zod was rather glib about the horrifying consequences of casually casting the Soviets aside that late in the war; this is one of the rosier scenarios I contemplated, as it happens.

But on the bright side, FWIW, the Indian subcontinent's doing way better ITTL.
 
Sami People's Republic? Well, you've made yournamerandomnumbers a very happy man, but aside from that, I'm a bit unsure why they took Hammerfest before they took Svalbard, seeing as how the Soviets basically ran the place at the time anyway.
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
Thanks. Yeah I origanal had a a california republic but I seem to always do that so I thought I'd mix it this time. I might change it I'll think about it.

Yeah I agree. I'd love to do nature borders but I lack the resouses to know what to do for them. If you had any ideas I'd love to hear them.
I thought I'd be a nice change having them in Missouri.
Chactaw federation sounds good. Thanks.

Ps-who doesn't love a good Texas wank

Federation between Alta California and Republic of Texas?
I'll try to drag up some maps, but I suggest looking at rivers and mountain ranges in the region.
 
Sami People's Republic? Well, you've made yournamerandomnumbers a very happy man, but aside from that, I'm a bit unsure why they took Hammerfest before they took Svalbard, seeing as how the Soviets basically ran the place at the time anyway.

I don't understand why many people said People's Republic of Sami isn't possible...Eventhough Stalin has penchant to ethnicaly based nation
 
I don't understand why many people said People's Republic of Sami isn't possible...Eventhough Stalin has penchant to ethnicaly based nation

Let's see here...

According to the English Wikipedia (I will freely admit to having no idea where they got the figures - sue me if you feel like it), there are 133,400 ethnic Sami living in their native region. This is, however, likely an optimistic estimate, since the Swedish, Norwegian and Russian Wikipedias all point to figures well below a hundred thousand. In the same region there are some 600,000 ethnic Swedes, 200,000 non-Sami Finnic people (counting Kvens and Tornedalians as well as Finns), and 800-900,000 each Russians and Norwegians. The Norwegians counted here live mainly along a coastal strip that can be detached from a presumptive Sami state with relative ease (albeit this would also mean the removal of some 20-30,000 ethnic Sami), but both the Russians and particularly the Swedes live in mining settlements and similar which are located in the heart of Sami territory. As a result of this, there is absolutely no way of drawing up borders for a Sami state that does not either exclude the vast majority of the Sami people or make them a small minority.

I will admit that IOTL, socialist states did frequently create "ethnic republics" (Inner Mongolia, I'm looking at you) where the namesake ethnicity constituted far below half of the population, but these were exclusively subnational units. Invading Lapland from Russia without also taking the rest of Scandinavia - or at the very least Finland and large chunks of northern Sweden - makes no sense from a geopolitical standpoint, as you'd just end up with a massive tundra with dispersed ore deposits that can't be shipped out through your own territory short of building a railway all the way back to Russia. So unless the Soviet Union incorporates Sweden, Norway and Finland as full members, and then decides to carve out some kind of Sami ASSR out of parts of these countries, there's absolutely no way for it to make sense. It's about as logical as creating a Native American state made up of the entire Mountain West.
 
Why is real Yucatan coloured with Texas Yellow and Dominican Republic is Yucatan Teal? Etymology butterflies?:D
Oops. My bad. I was going to have an independent Yucatan but changed it to texan. Dominican Republic is an American puppet.
Federation between Alta California and Republic of Texas?
I'll try to drag up some maps, but I suggest looking at rivers and mountain ranges in the region.
I'm just not very good at making free hand borders that follow natural elements.:eek:
Maybe...texas-cali fed
 

Gian

Banned
Hoping to avoid end of page syndrome.

In any case, my almost finished map of a continuing Ancien Regime France with potential democracy, perhaps with a PoD in the Fronde or so. The country is formed by quite autonomous provinces, themselves divided into bailliages, senechaussées, payses, vicecomtés, vigueries, presidiaux or prevôtés or other kind of smaller units, depending on the region. This is after a process of consolidation and merger of many units, as many of these so-called circonscriptions had very different roles depending on the region.

Right now I'm trying to figure out how to translate the basemap's scale in kilometres into one or two of the tens of pre-metric scales that France had.

Super great, Nanwe:D
 
Oh my lord.

That looks amazing. :eek:

Thanks!

That is a mighty map, Nanwe.

Does Geneva have a special status? I note it's surroundings are a different color from the adjacent French province.

Geneva is indeed its own province, essentially a city + surroundings province, and far too Protestant for the monarchy's liking. Plus, they don't actually speak French but a Romand dialect.

WOW! What a fantastic map! Congratulations!

Thanks! But please, don't quote images.


Super great, Nanwe:D

Thanks!

Fascinating; this France is also a bit larger than OTL. So a more English history?

Indeed. I wanted to show all the quirkiness of France before the Revolution, with the various measurement units. I'm also making some other side-maps with the regional languages under koiné French, the religious composition of France and the various legal systems (the coutumes in northern France and Roman-derived law for the Midi) within the private law field, probably administrative law will be codified.

I enlarged it because I felt like it, honestly. This is map is not necessarily the most realistic.
 

Gian

Banned
@Nanwe - Is the current year on your map the 1800s or so.

Plus, how would the religious percentage go (assuming the Edict of Nantes still exists)
 
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