You know, there were people advocating a one child policy and birth control measures in China in the 1950s OTL; they got ignored by Mao, who also pushed for an increase in birth rates. So I think you could see a population not too larger than OTL.
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You know, there were people advocating a one child policy and birth control measures in China in the 1950s OTL; they got ignored by Mao, who also pushed for an increase in birth rates. So I think you could see a population not too larger than OTL.
Interessting. I guess the focus is on Pakistan but I wonder who is domunant in Kashmir? Hindus or Muslims or do they share power equally?
Now that I think of it ... socialist atheist Kashmir sounds like a nice scenario.
Now that I think of it ... socialist atheist Kashmir sounds like a nice scenario.
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The Miracle of 1493
May, 1493
Christoforo paced back and forth in his lodgings in Lisbon. The damn fool still hadn't written back. He had been in Lisbon a week now, and still no word from the King. He had news that would shock all of Europe, and nobody would believe him. A whole new continent, right where the Azores used to be! Whatever happened to them, he had no idea.
Still, the city that he had seen! El Dain, they called it. A city of stone and marble, and in the middle of it a massive palace, where the monks of that land studied the arts of healing. And at the center of it a massive tower, with a flame at the top. He and his crew had watered there, and thence sailed, past verdant fields and later boiling desert, still unaware of where the Azores had gone.
The people were undeniably pagan, but unlike the men of the islands which he had discovered, they were of a paler stock, men of a place they called Ricce. And the banners the city flew: a crowned stag, a golden rose, that same tower on an azure field.
Cristoforo waited anxiously as the light faded. It would be another day before the messenger boy came to bring the King's reply to him, inviting him to join him Vale de Paraiso. As he waited, he noticed an odd sensation: it was as if his hands were numb. He pricked the tip of one of his fingers. No pain. He shrugged, not noticing that same finger on his other hand. At the very tip, a gray, scaly patch had appeared, and was beginning to spread...
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May, 1493
Christoforo paced back and forth in his lodgings in Lisbon. The damn fool still hadn't written back. He had been in Lisbon a week now, and still no word from the King. He had news that would shock all of Europe, and nobody would believe him. A whole new continent, right where the Azores used to be! Whatever happened to them, he had no idea.
Still, the city that he had seen! El Dain, they called it. A city of stone and marble, and in the middle of it a massive palace, where the monks of that land studied the arts of healing. And at the center of it a massive tower, with a flame at the top. He and his crew had watered there, and thence sailed, past verdant fields and later boiling desert, still unaware of where the Azores had gone.
The people were undeniably pagan, but unlike the men of the islands which he had discovered, they were of a paler stock, men of a place they called Ricce. And the banners the city flew: a crowned stag, a golden rose, that same tower on an azure field.
Cristoforo waited anxiously as the light faded. It would be another day before the messenger boy came to bring the King's reply to him, inviting him to join him Vale de Paraiso. As he waited, he noticed an odd sensation: it was as if his hands were numb. He pricked the tip of one of his fingers. No pain. He shrugged, not noticing that same finger on his other hand. At the very tip, a gray, scaly patch had appeared, and was beginning to spread...
Map coming soon
POD is 1898, so those people are sort of irrelevant.
And Mao's pro-birth efforts didn't yield any really massive growth: China increased some 76% 1950-1980, which wasn't bad, but in line with other big countries (US 50%, India 96%, Brazil 134%) and for perhaps a more culturally similar case, South Korea increased some 83.7%. (Also, the one child policy, given the looming demographic issues, is looking a bit dumb in retrospect)Not that a low-growth scenario isn't plausible as well, but I don't see the original scenario's high population estimate is necessarily improbable, either. (Otto does go a bit overboard with Japan, admittedly).
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Quite a few Kashmiris OTL liked the notion of an independent state, not that the Indians or Pakistanis were interested in their opinions.
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Here it is, in all it's glory. Right at the very moment that Ser Ilyn Payne chops Ned Stark's head off.
Thanks to the Great Underwater Tunnel of As'b, built by Brandon the Builder, the North Atlantic current is not affected by the sudden appearance of Westeros (somebody always brings that up no matter how clear I am that I'm handwaving that for plot purposes)
And before anybody says anything, no, I didn't make Westeros as big as South America. GRRM gives two contradictory scales: the South America one, and the one where he says the Isle of Ib is about the size of Iceland, which would put Sunspear right about the latitude of Algiers, and put the Wall not far from the Arctic Circle
See if you can guess who allies with the Europeans first.
Thanks to the Great Underwater Tunnel of As'b, built by Brandon the Builder, the North Atlantic current is not affected by the sudden appearance of Westeros (somebody always brings that up no matter how clear I am that I'm handwaving that for plot purposes)
And before anybody says anything, no, I didn't make Westeros as big as South America. GRRM gives two contradictory scales: the South America one, and the one where he says the Isle of Ib is about the size of Iceland, which would put Sunspear right about the latitude of Algiers, and put the Wall not far from the Arctic Circle
See if you can guess who allies with the Europeans first.
X-post from the MOTF:
In the year 2274, NCR scouts reached the Colorado River and discovered that the Hoover Dam and its power station were, contrary to legend, relatively intact. Electrified by the possibility of providing power for the entire nation, the leadership poured huge amounts of men and treasure into the Mojave Desert in an attempt to secure it. Unfortunately for the Republic, just across the river were the massed hordes of the Legion, just as determined to claim the Dam and its infrastructure for itself. Conflict inevitably resulted, and a bloody conflict ensued. After seven long years of skirmishes and raids, NCR forces were finally able to sweep Legion forces from the dam and reactivate the hydroelectric plant. The year is now 2282. The Legion still controls vast swathes of the Arizona desert, but are easily held at the Colorado. The newly-admitted state of Mojave is now fully electrified, and work is now beginning on wiring to turn the lights back on in the NCR capital of Shady Sands. War never changes, but as more and more settlers flood east in hope of being the first of their family for two hundred years to live in a home with lightbulbs and refrigerators, it seems that peace just might.
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Did the Vietnamese also attack through Cambodia and Laos like they did against the Americans IOTL? And how do the Druze feel about Israel occupying all the land they occupy outside of Lebanon? And will the invasion help push Jordan into the UAR?Man, I’m having a lot of fun with this map series, and I never intended for it to go this far. I now have another map of my alternate Cold War universe set in 1970!
Any questions so far?
My only real problem is that going by what we see in Fallout 2, NCR/Shady Sands already is electrified and has lightbulbs.
Round 5: Cold Blooded Warfare
Germany is a shadow of what it once was due to both Draconian and Race victories against them. The UK is no more. France has bled, but continues to fight the Draconians. Russia and the USA both fight the Race as it tries to steal their warmer and dryer regions. Japan, France, and the Pan Human Worker's Front battle the Draconians in China. The bulk of the world's fighting however is between the Race and the Draconians (or more accurately the Humans in Draconian run nations). The Race have better weapons on average, and have begun to acquire Martian technology (the Martians are happy to sell the Race weapons, the two have very different territorial aims after all). The Draconians have the occasional example of high powered technology which can almost always secure victory against Race forces, but these wonder weapons are too rare to do much more than slow the Race advances against the more poorly armed human soldiers of the Draconians. (Those humans fight on either out of fear or a belief that the Draconians didn't seem to have been too bad when they ran things historically.)
After 5 years of fighting all the main powers are growing exhausted, however the Race and Draconians are both planning for a long conflict and are quite reluctant to negotiate. The Communists in Asia however are drawing enough of the Draconians attention and manpower that they might just concede to negotiations soon.
Germany is a shadow of what it once was due to both Draconian and Race victories against them. The UK is no more. France has bled, but continues to fight the Draconians. Russia and the USA both fight the Race as it tries to steal their warmer and dryer regions. Japan, France, and the Pan Human Worker's Front battle the Draconians in China. The bulk of the world's fighting however is between the Race and the Draconians (or more accurately the Humans in Draconian run nations). The Race have better weapons on average, and have begun to acquire Martian technology (the Martians are happy to sell the Race weapons, the two have very different territorial aims after all). The Draconians have the occasional example of high powered technology which can almost always secure victory against Race forces, but these wonder weapons are too rare to do much more than slow the Race advances against the more poorly armed human soldiers of the Draconians. (Those humans fight on either out of fear or a belief that the Draconians didn't seem to have been too bad when they ran things historically.)
After 5 years of fighting all the main powers are growing exhausted, however the Race and Draconians are both planning for a long conflict and are quite reluctant to negotiate. The Communists in Asia however are drawing enough of the Draconians attention and manpower that they might just concede to negotiations soon.
I was just wondering when we going to see the next round of this wonderful map series.
Kazakh border and Interwar German border? When is the POD exactly...?Just another WIP I've been doing.
1. Laos was firmly in the Chinese sphere of influence by the time the Sino-Vietnam War began. However, during Cambodia's civil war in the early 1960s, Vietnam did send special forces to fight alongside the leftist Cambodian rebels against Chinese troops.
2. During the late 1960s, Israel became more militaristic and began swinging towards right-wing nationalism, a rather dystopic path for Israel as opposed to the parliamentary democracy that emerged OTL. The invasion of Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon has obviously alienated Israel's Druze minority, who will be fleeing to Lebanon and other regions in the Middle East.
3. Jordan will likely join the UAR after the war with Israel ends.
India: Domestically, it is similar to OTL. However, India is more concerned about the ROC than it is about Pakistan. The ROC invasion of Tibet has made India-ROC relations plummet, and has led India to support Tibetan nationalists that create instability in the Western region of the ROC. India's ties with the Soviet Union have grown even warmer as a result of India's rivalry with the Republic of China
Iran: North Iran is governed by your typical communist puppet state, while South Iran is governed by a slightly repressive monarchy. Overall not much has changed, but there are fears in the United State intelligence community of a communist revolution against the monarchy, which has led the CIA to monitor and prevent potential sparks for an uprising against the Shah of Iran.
Ethiopia: Similar to OTL, currently being ruled by Emperor Haile Selassie.
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