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Interesting that those books also discuss zones of occupation in the Japanese-held territories of China, implying that the decision to return those areas to Chinese rule hadn't been made yet. They also note that even in the pursuit of a zone of occupation in Japan, Stalin was not at all bothered by the division of Korea, so there's the potential for a scenario which has the DPRK and ROK as well as a divided Japan.

Apparently Japan was willing to withdraw and create a neutral Manchucko, perhaps even cede parts of its Territory to the Soviet Union, in order to get Moscow to mediate a peace with the Allies.

ref: http://books.google.com/books?id=AX...ange neutrality"&pg=PA158#v=onepage&q&f=false
 
I call it the smaller nations wank. EG bigger Canada, Ottoman Empire, Bavaria, Portugal, República de California, and China :p

I reality it's the semi-conceptual map of another TL idea of mine called '1812 Overture' revolving around a decisive British victory in the war of 1812 and then spiraling out from there.

This is a mock up of the world come 1911 or so just before the TL would end. I figured it would be a fitting place to stop. Some of it is serious speculation, other bits some mild fancy which theoretically could take place.

Brazil still in Portuguese hands? Eu gosto :D
 

Dorozhand

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Modified/improved version of my map of the Lu Dynasty (1221-1439)

Part of a universe in which Song conquered Xi Xia and Liao, secured its border and military and maintained the policies of Wang Anshi. The Mongol Invasions are butterflied and feudal Asia continues business as usual. Song eventually collapses after a weak emperor bungles the response to a flood. A peasant rebellion ravages the country, and no sooner does it end when the Song Emperor gravely insults the nobles in Shandong. One of them, who was awarded land there for helping to quell the revolt, and given the title Prince of Lu, rises up at the centre of a rebellion, declaring himself Emperor Taizu of Great Lu...


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The completed map of Britain's provincial governments in True North.

2014: Present Day
Prime Minister: Yvette Cooper (Social Democratic majority)

Northern Ireland: Mike Nesbitt (Unionist-Progressive coalition)
Scotland: Gordon Brown (Social Democratic majority)
Malta: Joseph Muscat (Labour majority)
Gibraltar: Latifa Akherbach (Socialist Labour-Liberal coalition)
Wales: Carwyn Jones (Social Democratic minority)
Lancashire: Graham Jones (Social Democratic-Green coalition)
Northumbria: Stephen Hepburn (Social Democratic-Northumbria First Grand Coalition)
Wessex: Nick Harvey (Liberal-Social Democratic coalition)
Yorkshire: David Blunkett (Social Democratic majority)
Channel Islands: Ian Gorst (Conservative-Independent Conservative coalition)
Singapore: Low Thia Khiang (Labour Front majority)
Seychelles: Ralph Volcere (New Democratic majority)
Anglia: Chloe Smith (National Liberal majority)
Essex: Bernard Jenkin (National Conservative-Citizens' Movement coalition)
Kent: Gordon Henderson (National Liberal minority with s&c from Citizens' Movement and English Democrats)
Sussex: Mike Weatherley (Conservative-Liberal-Citizen's Movement coalition)
Hong Kong: Lee Cheuk-yan (Social Democratic-Democratic-People's-Socialist coalition)
Vannin: Bernard Moffatt (Mec Vannin-Independent Nationalist coalition)
Mercia: David Wright (Social Democratic-Green coalition with s&c from Health Concern)
Cornwall: Dick Cole (Mebyon Kernow majority)
London: Sadiq Khan (London Alliance-Labour coalition)

21 Provinces
10 SDP/Other Left
07 NLP/Other Right
03 Regionalist
01 Liberal
It's an interesting idea but I think it would look better if it was entirely on the QBam, also the key could use some clearing up to make it more readable.
 

Hapsburg

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Which is why I occasionally intentionally use 'Kalmar Union'. I simply don't see the problem with it.

Neither do I. I was actually agreeing with the usage of "Kalmar Union" to describe such a state, based on "Weimar Republic" as a precedent.
 
Neither do I. I was actually agreeing with the usage of "Kalmar Union" to describe such a state, based on "Weimar Republic" as a precedent.

That was an unofficial name. On a side note, I think we need to see more maps with the Union of Krewo.

That is all.
 
Here is a little something I conjured up during a slow day at work.

Stalin died in a bathroom accident in early 1944 which in time allowed Tito to become the face of a "communism with a human face". Molotov became the leader of the SSSR and remained in that post until his death in 1986, 4 years after Tito. The two were crucial in redrawing the borders of central and eastern post-war Europe and reforming communism and socialism to better compete with the western world. Yet apart from the participation in the civil war in Greece and some support for the Chinese communists TTL socialist block was much more introverted and slowly transformed socialism into an almost exclusivly Slavic ideology.

Elsewhere China managed to end its communist uprising and over time formed an anti-imperial pact with India. France and UK after ensuring Germany would never again threaten them fell to infiting as France turned more rightwing and tried to preserve it "empire" even as the UK retreated from theirs. By 1960's French and UK/US interests were completely at odds and remain so to this day.

The map is set in 2014 - the Socialist world is made out of SSSR, Finland, Zachodoslavia, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania and Turkey - also known as the Cracow Coprosperity Zone.

The number one power in the world militarily, political and economicaly is the China-India Anti-Imperialist pact and their affiliated members. Very close second are the United Nations - US, UK, Canada, Australia, Japan and their oversea territories. Cracow Coprosperity Zone is a distand third while the fourth place is held by the Francosphere(French "empire" + Spain + Lombardy and overseas territories).
The ten permanent seats on the inner circle council of the League of Nations is held by - US, UK, Canada, China, India, SSSR, Zachodoslavia, Yugoslavia, France, Argentina - up until the great reform of 1973 there were only five seats.

Parts of OTL Germany and Austria that were held by the soviet forces became part of Zachodo and Yugoslavia. Local Germans for the most part weren't driven from their homes but over time most left for Germany. As it is there aren't more than 4 million of them scattered across Zachodoslavia, mostly in rural communities. What was OTL GDR in this ATL is known as Polabia.

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Modified/improved version of my map of the Lu Dynasty (1221-1439)

Part of a universe in which Song conquered Xi Xia and Liao, secured its border and military and maintained the policies of Wang Anshi. The Mongol Invasions are butterflied and feudal Asia continues business as usual. Song eventually collapses after a weak emperor bungles the response to a flood. A peasant rebellion ravages the country, and no sooner does it end when the Song Emperor gravely insults the nobles in Shandong. One of them, who was awarded land there for helping to quell the revolt, and given the title Prince of Lu, rises up at the centre of a rebellion, declaring himself Emperor Taizu of Great Lu...


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Cool, loved classic Chinese AHs, keep going man.
 
Here is a little something I conjured up during a slow day at work.

The number one power in the world militarily, political and economicaly is the China-India Anti-Imperialist pact and their affiliated members. Very close second are the United Nations - US, UK, Canada, Australia, Japan and their oversea territories. Cracow Coprosperity Zone is a distand third while the fourth place is held by the Francosphere(French "empire" + Spain + Lombardy and overseas territories).
The Soviets didn't even place? Or are they with the Yugo and Zachidi Slavians in the Cracow thing? And interesting with switching The owners of Corsica and Sardinia. Seems a good way to tie the French to their African Empire better and for the Lombards to be in a more compact area.
 
AltWW2 as of 2/20/41

The declining months of 1939 featured the beginning of World War Two--but it wasn't started over Poland, at least not yet. Hitler delayed the invasion of Poland for a couple months (with of course the coordination of Secretary Stalin), which left the Soviet Union time to invade and annex the Baltic states, much to the objection of Britain, France, and the United States. The Winter War was procrastinated until, theoretically, after Hitler and Stalin dealt with the Poles.

In the meantime, Hungary's theoretical place in an alliance between Germany and Italy was replaced by a growing power in the Middle East: Turkey.

Unfortunately, future cooperation between the Soviets and the Nazis would be limited to just Poland: war broke out between the former and the Japanese (in a rather convenient time, as the majority of Japanese forces were fighting Mao and Kai-Sek and were not prepared for another front).

The invasion of Poland and Danzig (in the early months of 1940), as OTL, led to the declaration of war between Germany and France. By March not just the UK had joined France in the war, but the US did as well, mirroring Turkey's acceptance into the Berlin-Rome Axis.

By June of that year Germany, Italy, and Japan had solidified their alliance, bringing Hitler and Mussolini into a war against the Soviets. Turkey formally removed itself from the Axis, as it was already bogged down in a blitzkrieg south and warily watching for an American invasion.

By July Hitler's dual invasions of France and the Soviet Union had slowed to a standstill (the Soviet one considerably more successful than France's), Turkey and Italy had made easy work of unprepared French and British colonial armies, and Stalin had cut Japanese support to its invasion with the occupation of most of Manchuria. Throughout the Mediterranean Italian and Turkish ships were sunk, and it was only through Turkey that the Italian African armies weren't starved and diced.

September featured Turkey seizing the Canal and Cairo while Iraq capitulated, the German occupation of ex-Lithuania and the attempted occupation of Benelux, and the bloodily failed invasion of Greece.

By October the Americans held aquatic landings against the Turkish (careful not to repeat the mistakes of the last war) and the Italians in Libya to assist the French occupation. Bulgaria and Romania were absorbed into the Axis against the Soviets and the Greeks.

By January of 1941 Korea had been seized by the Soviet Union, Japanese advancements through China had seriously suffered, and, to add onto that, the tactical humiliation of the Japanese navy led to the liberation of a large portion of China by ANZAC-led forces.

It is only a little more than a year since it began, but what's is clear is that this war will be worse than the last. The fronts in Asia, Africa, and Eastern Europe can attest to that. However, there is a sliver of hope for the democratic powers of the world: already the fascists have shown evidence of over-committing themselves. If capitalized upon, it is clear that victory can be reached. The Italian-occupied expanse across Egypt, Sudan, and Ethiopia can be cut apart, and the Americans have planned for an invasion of Ankara that could undoubtedly bring a downfall to the Turkish. In Asia, ANZAC forces have led surprising victories against the warmonger Japanese.

However, there is one problem: the Soviet Union. Assuming Germany can be defeated, a large portion of territory would be handed to the likes of Stalin. The Soviets could just as easily invade the Turkish and China, and drop a red shroud upon the Middle East and the East. Whatever the future holds, it is clear that nothing will be as it was.

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When asked on the issue of the Iranian invasion of Afghanistan, President Bill Clinton famously quipped "it's a shame they can't both lose." Sixteen years later, violence in Afghanistan shows no signs of dying down. The recent collapse of Iraq, Syria, Egypt and Libya and the rise of the Islamic Caliphate may force Iran into another endless quagmire, which can explain its search for allies in strange places....

My first map made completely in Adobe Illustrator. No real backstory to this one. Iran invades Afghanistan in 1998, after the murder of several Iranian diplomats by the Taliban. Click the image for full resolution.

 
When asked on the issue of the Iranian invasion of Afghanistan, President Bill Clinton famously quipped "it's a shame they can't both lose." Sixteen years later, violence in Afghanistan shows no signs of dying down. The recent collapse of Iraq, Syria, Egypt and Libya and the rise of the Islamic Caliphate may force Iran into another endless quagmire, which can explain its search for allies in strange places....

My first map made completely in Adobe Illustrator. No real backstory to this one. Iran invades Afghanistan in 1998, after the murder of several Iranian diplomats by the Taliban. Click the image for full resolution.

Wow, I think I'm in love.

One minor (or, depending how you look at it, major) quip though. An "east-west" division of Afghanistan makes since if Iran is doing the invading, but it makes little sense that areas under the control of the Northern Alliance (Panjshir, Badakhshan, etc) would fall to the Taliban, especially after an Iranian invasion.

Otherwise...yeah, I'm in love.
 
Wow, I think I'm in love.

One minor (or, depending how you look at it, major) quip though. An "east-west" division of Afghanistan makes since if Iran is doing the invading, but it makes little sense that areas under the control of the Northern Alliance (Panjshir, Badakhshan, etc) would fall to the Taliban, especially after an Iranian invasion.

Otherwise...yeah, I'm in love.

Thanks. The areas of Taliban control are based off of ones I found from OTL maps, so I can see why there'd be some fuck-ups on the map. :eek:
 
Very nice map, although I wish there were a resolution between "rather hard to read the text" and "mind-numbingly huge" :). So where is this Islamic caliphate you speak of?
 
Very nice map, although I wish there were a resolution between "rather hard to read the text" and "mind-numbingly huge" :). So where is this Islamic caliphate you speak of?

The Islamic Caliphate is centered in Iraq and Syria. They're basically ersatz-ISIS.
 
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