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That's beautiful! I'm working on a 'Spain rebuilds the Mediterranean Empire' map, but 'Cordoba converts to Christianity' is a twist I hadn't considered. Would they still use 'Caliph' though, particularly if they are Catholic (the mention of the Caliphs deposing Cidist states in Britain and forcing them to adopt Catholicism suggests as much)? 'Caliph' comes from the word Khalifa ('successor', 'lieutenant') and has very strong connotations of being the 'successor' to Muhammad as Viceroy of God.
Well it also has the meaning of a vicar or deputy, and successor could also be construed as a successor in general, or successor to the previous ruler.

When the Caliph converts to Christianity, he doesn't necessarily call for hundreds of new bishops to enforce the exact, Rome variety of Catholicism. Due to this and the Byzantine Empire's control over the Papacy at that time in OTL and TTL, the Church in the area is pretty decentralized/feels pretty distant. So no one really cares that an Arabic title remains in use.

The Caliph also doesn't want to let go of his prestigious title. It would give him an excuse to conquer and rule everything from Morocco to Persia.

His son inherits this title, and their sons inherit it, until the Umayyad Caliphate collapses.

The resulting Spanish states now see "Caliph" as a title of much prestige, leading to the House de Castilla adopting that title when they reunite Andalusia/Iberia. By this point it has no Muslim connotations, for the Spaniards (though there might be a convenient connotation of the divine right of rulers). Arabic names also seem prestigious as well, due to the Umayyads.

The same Church decentralization allows the rise of Cidism, but once Andalusian Cidism is eliminated, the wannabe-Roman Caliph Abdiza III invites representatives of the Church to re-enforce Papal authority. Permitting the expeditions to Britain that enforce Catholicism against Cidism there, and Andalusia is a stalwart of Catholicism then on.
 
A WIP I have going.

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Well spotted: it was just the Israel colour again :(

Fixed that, and here's a version with regular-colour ocean:

Very nice! I'd pick a different color for the unaligned powers (pink, pink-orange, and pale orange sort of form a grouping with yellow the way blue doesn't), but otherwise mighty cool. Is that independent Siberia there mostly for aesthetic purposes? :D

Bruce
 
MotF 79 Entry: Colombian Republic, 1924.

My entry for MotF 79.

The Colombian Republic ranks as the largest country on Earth, stretching across five continents and touching all four oceans -- just larger in area than the Russian Empire in size, but lagging well-behind China in population. From its capital city in Maracaibo on the scenic Caribbean, to its industrial heartland in the Mexican mountains and its universities and cultural center in the Peruvian Andes, Colombia stands poised to be a global power in the 20th Century.

Taking a page out of the handbook from the United States' rebellion against the United Kingdom, the leaders of the various factions in Spain's colonies in the Americas decided that they would all 'hang separately' without a coordinated effort at independence. This general unease against regionalism led to a meeting of the first Colombian Independence Movement in Mexico City in 1811 and began a steady effort to gain independence for all Spanish Colonies in the New World.

As the Colombian government formed after independence was gained in 1817, the choice of a capital city threatened to tear the new country apart. Mexico City had been the main center of the rebellion throughout the revolution; however, new representatives of the Southern contingent claimed that Lima would be the rightful location of the new country's capital city. Many ideas for a new capital were floated, including Panama City bridging both North and South America and the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans and a host of ideas for a newly built capital city in various places. Ultimately, it was decided that Panama City was too exposed and any new capital from scratch would be too costly. In the end it was decided that the new capital city would be placed in a new federal district on the border of Granada and Venezuela. The Capital would be the city of Maracaibo.

The new country industrialized quickly and development expanded throughout South and Central America. Its nation's cry of "To the ends of the earth!" moved young Colombian settlers into the regions of California and Oregon, and later Yucon and the territory of Santa Maria in Antarctica.

Colombia asserted its influence in the Americas as well: brokering the peace treaty in the American Civil War; fostering the development afterward of the new countries of Kansas, and Kentucky & Kanawha; winning a decisive victory against Brazil in the Colombo-Brazilian War; and scuffling occasionally with the British. With its new colonies in Africa and the purchase of Aleysca and Colombian East Asia from Russia, Colombia now stretches from pole to pole.

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Shouldn't Turkey at least be striped Asiatic?

No, the actual Turk population is primarily of descended from people from the Southern Balkans and the European population of Western Anatolia, the actual Turkic population was small and it was a case of a Minority successfully getting a larger population to speak its languiage and adopt its religion.


Also some of the Uralic groups seem a bit off to put in a category sudefined as "indo-european". Lastly, shouldn't Kazakhstan have striped with Russians and other Slavic populations pushing nearly 30% of the population?

In thi case Indo-European is used to refer to both the actual Indo-Europeans as well as the other native European populations.

As to Kazakhstan, as I said, it shows the majority population, countries get striping when their's no majority in which the largest groups which together constitute a majority are shown as stripes.


Hm? I was noting that superman was making a poor comparsion, not complaining about your giving Brazil stripes. Welcome to the thin-skinned fraternity, brother! :)

Bruce

Oh I know you were'nt complaining, I was more just adding on since Brazil's demographics are a bit odd.


I figured Cuba for Multiracial

Nope, Cuba's the part of the Caribbean that saw a good deal of Euopean immigration during the colonial era.

It does have a unique demographic history in regards to race though, by 1775 it was majority white howevr from then on the white population as a proportion of the population began dropping for decades until by 1841 Blacks were the majority with a nearly 20% difference between the populations then from that point on the situation reversed itself very quickly to the point Whites were again the majority by 1861.

Presently Whites are the majority at 65% while Mixed race individuals make-up the largest minority at 24%.
 
My entry for MotF 79.

The Colombian Republic ranks as the largest country on Earth, stretching across five continents and touching all four oceans -- just larger in area than the Russian Empire in size, but lagging well-behind China in population. From its capital city in Maracaibo on the scenic Caribbean, to its industrial heartland in the Mexican mountains and its universities and cultural center in the Peruvian Andes, Colombia stands poised to be a global power in the 20th Century.

Taking a page out of the handbook from the United States' rebellion against the United Kingdom, the leaders of the various factions in Spain's colonies in the Americas decided that they would all 'hang separately' without a coordinated effort at independence. This general unease against regionalism led to a meeting of the first Colombian Independence Movement in Mexico City in 1811 and began a steady effort to gain independence for all Spanish Colonies in the New World.

As the Colombian government formed after independence was gained in 1817, the choice of a capital city threatened to tear the new country apart. Mexico City had been the main center of the rebellion throughout the revolution; however, new representatives of the Southern contingent claimed that Lima would be the rightful location of the new country's capital city. Many ideas for a new capital were floated, including Panama City bridging both North and South America and the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans and a host of ideas for a newly built capital city in various places. Ultimately, it was decided that Panama City was too exposed and any new capital from scratch would be too costly. In the end it was decided that the new capital city would be placed in a new federal district on the border of Granada and Venezuela. The Capital would be the city of Maracaibo.

The new country industrialized quickly and development expanded throughout South and Central America. Its nation's cry of "To the ends of the earth!" moved young Colombian settlers into the regions of California and Oregon, and later Yucon and the territory of Santa Maria in Antarctica.

Colombia asserted its influence in the Americas as well: brokering the peace treaty in the American Civil War; fostering the development afterward of the new countries of Kansas, and Kentucky & Kanawha; winning a decisive victory against Brazil in the Colombo-Brazilian War; and scuffling occasionally with the British. With its new colonies in Africa and the purchase of Aleysca and Colombian East Asia from Russia, Colombia now stretches from pole to pole.

Very cool! Definitely reminds me of "For Want of a Nail" and a couple of those "Ameriwank" timelines, for sure. :D
 
Why is it independent though?

Ah. Colombia has always had a bit of a Monroe Doctrine complex. Since Colombia's beginnings, it has wanted European influence (especially Spain and Portugal) out of the Americas and heavily advocated for colonies to be annexed into other American nations or for complete independence. This has always been one of Colombia's main diplomatic goals.

When Britain offered Labrador self-governance in 1910, Labrador chose not to become part of Canada, because Labrador had had some pretty hefty disagreements with Canada about its borders over the years. Labrador & Baffin still has close ties to the UK, as well as close ties to the US and Iceland. Relations with Colombia are cordial.

Connections with Canada, however, have been icy.
 
Ah. Colombia has always had a bit of a Monroe Doctrine complex. Since Colombia's beginnings, it has wanted European influence (especially Spain and Portugal) out of the Americas and heavily advocated for colonies to be annexed into other American nations or for complete independence. This has always been one of Colombia's main diplomatic goals.

When Britain offered Labrador self-governance in 1910, Labrador chose not to become part of Canada, because Labrador had had some pretty hefty disagreements with Canada about its borders over the years. Labrador & Baffin still has close ties to the UK, as well as close ties to the US and Iceland. Relations with Colombia are cordial.

Connections with Canada, however, have been icy.

Labrador was a part of Newfoundland though. It wouldn't have the population to be self governing.
 
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