Yes, and my idea of the Zenobian Commonwealth was that it was the "United States" of South America and should have a good mix of people in it.
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Do you mean "pre-Columbian" ethnic or "colonizer" ethnic? Because the native-newcomer ratio will depend on the colonization practices of each mother nation and of each nation after independence.
OK, I want to name a Zenobian province "Les Plaines" which one would be suitable most?
Heres my attempt at making the Dutch of Warsaw's Provinces, let me know if you see anything wrong...you probably will 
If Logicalism hasn't been defined yet, might I recommend as form of Nationalist Technocratic Distributism?
I've seen people through around the ideas that it is fascist-like and take influences from Rerum Novarum, so it seems to fit.
I've seen people through around the ideas that it is fascist-like and take influences from Rerum Novarum, so it seems to fit.
I think we defined it already, Plus which of the Zenobian provinces could be named Les Plaines?
I did it to Zenobia already:
-Religious map:
(orange is Redemptist Christian or other christian sects of the New World - I'll develop this further soon)
-Somewhat Cultural map - it was actually a map of Zenobia in 1750, but it shows the countries that colonized each region)
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This week was insanely busy to me, but tomorrow or Saturday I'll post more about my nations, specially the Italian Confederation, Mauretana, Panjab, Adamantea and Zenobia Boreal/Al'Abama.
OK, can you elaborate on that? Distributism is new to me, but from the WP summary it sounds like something of a return-to-tradition, religiously-influenced sort of approach. I've been under the impression that logicalism was anti-tradition and anti-religion.
Economically, though, I like the idea of a Logicalist economy as being somewhat distributist. It would be a lovely change from OTL where there's so long been the capitalist-socialist dichotomy. It also could be harmonized with neoclassical ideas - Aristotle and Plato's idealized poleis could probably be linked to this sort of economic theory.
Is there a way to radicalize this economic idea and make it more anti-tradition and anti-religion?
When and where were the great Logicalist writings? Who coined the term?
I would recommend Teutonia, because of the Order's firm control that makes lots of people angry.
A quick draft of the levels of power in this world.
The Main World Powers:
-Portuguese Empire: *the* naval power of the world, where "the Sun never sets". Like OTL England, but weaker.
-Luxembourg Empire: *the* continental power, but probably with the same kind of problems that Austria-Hungary had in 1900.
-Anglish Empire: not as powerful as Portugal, but probably more modern. Something between OTL England and OTL Netherlands.
The Major Powers:
-Lower France: cultural and colonial power, center of the Logicist block. Like OTL France, maybe a little weaker.
-Zenobian Commonwealth: the big guys across the Atlantic. Like the US OTL.
-Mauretana: colonial and commercial power, growing but not that strong: like Italy OTL.
-Denmark-Netherlands: european, somewhat colonial, and very civilized. Like OTL Netherlands.
-Norway-Scotland: the same. Like OTL Belgium.
-Sweden: the same. Like OTL Sweden.
Regional Powers:
-Europe:
--Hungary
--Teutonia
--Italian Federation
--Spain
-Near East:
--Ottoman Empire
--Mamluks
--Yemen
--Panjab
-Far East:
--Japan
--Mongolia
-Zenobia:
--Platinea
--Adamantea
-Morelia:
<big yellow country in the Mississipi>
In general, we have a much more 'multipolar' world, with a not so strong Super Power that may be even decaying, a very strong but rather archaic Germany-esque nation, many civilized-and-cold countries, some growing naval powers, an ideological block, two civilized nations in east Asia...
The Main World Powers:
-Portuguese Empire: *the* naval power of the world, where "the Sun never sets". Like OTL England, but weaker.
-Luxembourg Empire: *the* continental power, but probably with the same kind of problems that Austria-Hungary had in 1900.
-Anglish Empire: not as powerful as Portugal, but probably more modern. Something between OTL England and OTL Netherlands.
The Major Powers:
-Lower France: cultural and colonial power, center of the Logicist block. Like OTL France, maybe a little weaker.
-Zenobian Commonwealth: the big guys across the Atlantic. Like the US OTL.
-Mauretana: colonial and commercial power, growing but not that strong: like Italy OTL.
-Denmark-Netherlands: european, somewhat colonial, and very civilized. Like OTL Netherlands.
-Norway-Scotland: the same. Like OTL Belgium.
-Sweden: the same. Like OTL Sweden.
Regional Powers:
-Europe:
--Hungary
--Teutonia
--Italian Federation
--Spain
-Near East:
--Ottoman Empire
--Mamluks
--Yemen
--Panjab
-Far East:
--Japan
--Mongolia
-Zenobia:
--Platinea
--Adamantea
-Morelia:
<big yellow country in the Mississipi>
In general, we have a much more 'multipolar' world, with a not so strong Super Power that may be even decaying, a very strong but rather archaic Germany-esque nation, many civilized-and-cold countries, some growing naval powers, an ideological block, two civilized nations in east Asia...
When you compare it to socialism (OTL) it seems quite conservative because it was "invented" in reaction to it. In another timeline distributionism could come first, and socialism, when it comes around, would look far-right.
As I said, make it form in reaction to capitalism, instead of socialism arising in reaction.
Some economist/philosopher unique to this timeline?
Wow - I like that a lot. It has my vote.
Well, that goes without saying. Maybe not Teutonia (I still really dislike that name, by the way) because I imagine that part of the Baltic as being such a backwater in that era... then again, maybe I'm imposing OTL on things too much, and the Baltic developed faster. And I guess that even a less-developed nation can produce a great political thinker. I say we give the job to whoever writes up a decent biography of the man.
Definitely not - at least not when compared to its neighbors! Manhafluve looks big, but it's almost entirely sparsely inhabitable prairie. It might at best have a lot of agricultural wealth (it doesn't even go far west enough to cash in on many mines). The New Midlands would be the main Morelian power: it's got all the wealth of the Great Lakes and the east coast. The far western nations would also be stronger than Manhafluve. You can see that more clearly in the overlay map I made.
[EDIT] Not only that, but Manhafluve has very few defensible borders - they mostly run right through open plains.
All that and more in ... Map Continuation!
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OK, here you are
Karl Schmidt
Teutonian Philosopher, Creator of Logicalism.
He was born in a middle-class family to Otto and Gretel Schmidt in 1821, he lived in Konigsberg, also known as Ordensstaat, because the Order had the firmest control there. He grew to dislike the Order's tyranny over Teutonia so he started the Independence Movement, this later grew in the Logicalist ideology. He was put in prison for his radical ideas, while there he wrote the book that would define Logicalism, Die Tyrannei des Adels und der Kirche, often shortened to Die Tyrannei. He smuggled the book out through a loyal member of the Independence Movement. He died in 1872, barely two years before the Teutonian Revolution started, by firing squad. The Order ordered this in the hope it wold stop the Logicalist flame. It instead put petrol on the fire. His last words was Sie Tyrannen werden in den Flammen des Logizialismus sterben!
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Ha. I was married by a minister named Karl Schmidt.
I had thought the revolutions happened a little earlier than that. No?
