Mao turns China into a Narco-state

The irony on that was in 1980s the Golden Triangle got major competition from Afghanistan,
Thanks a Soviets intervention and CIA support to Muslim rebels, who to finance there weapons started to cultivate opium.
Heroína, al thanks to the anglos??
 
Not to defend Mao, but he didn't deliberately kill that many people outside of war. The GLF wasn't about killing people, that was just the effect of a really stupid policy that Mao defended when it was a clear failure and causing famine. So actually maybe your right, he was pigheaded enough to let millions die rather than admit he was wrong.
I know a bit about Mao because I spent a lot of time debating with MLMs (which is different from MZT, and if you get them confused u are a REVISIONIST IMPERIALIST RUNNING DOG)
 
I know a bit about Mao because I spent a lot of time debating with MLMs (which is different from MZT, and if you get them confused u are a REVISIONIST IMPERIALIST RUNNING DOG)

You know, I don't think I've ever met a genuine Maoist, because by the time I got involved in left-wing activism, the anti-revisionists in my city had all switched over to Hoxhaism, and were in fact quite negative in their assessement of the Chairman.

But I kind of guessed that they were still more-or-less what they had been like during their formal Maoist days, just with a different object for their glassy eyed adulation.
 
You know, I don't think I've ever met a genuine Maoist, because by the time I got involved in left-wing activism, the anti-revisionists in my city had all switched over to Hoxhaism, and were in fact quite negative in their assessement of the Chairman.

But I kind of guessed that they were still more-or-less what they had been like during their formal Maoist days, just with a different object for their glassy eyed adulation.

Most of the Maoist’s in my area are part of the Filipino diaspora, NDF supporters that do community organizing. Not ultimately that different from the more organic wing (as in having real familial ties to Ireland, and esp NI) of Irish American pro IRA politics.
 
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I asked a similar question about Mao exporting/dumping massive amounts of grain, rice, etc on the open market with the goal of it being as disruptive as possible to Western farmers/market prices.

The overarching answer that I got back was that it was unfeasible, simply due to the fact that Maoist China didn't have the merchant marine capable of export disruptive quantities. In fact, though an international pariah for most of the 50s and early sixties, China still relied heavily on massive amounts of western merchant shipping for all their import and export needs.
So given a "Narco State" scenario, I think the same thing would apply.
Western shipping companies refuse to transport the stuff, so most remain sitting at port. A black market forms domestically to recoup the cost and now China's got Opium Crisis 2.0, this time of their own making.

difference is you have to move tons of rice for a slight profit.
Heroin, you move kilograms and you make big profit.

No one would waste time smuggling rice.
Smack, that's different
 

Manman

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Thing like drugs are a lot more profitable without the massive cost of agricultural products. You only need a small amount and someone willing to sell it for you. So china could export it across asia and those nations would export it across the world. For example Afganistan is one of the largest producers of opium and managed to get all the way to western Europe enough that it is profitable. Now just imagine if the actual state did it. The main problem is getting seen and suffering the world hatred.
 

Thomas1195

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Thing like drugs are a lot more profitable without the massive cost of agricultural products. You only need a small amount and someone willing to sell it for you. So china could export it across asia and those nations would export it across the world. For example Afganistan is one of the largest producers of opium and managed to get all the way to western Europe enough that it is profitable. Now just imagine if the actual state did it. The main problem is getting seen and suffering the world hatred.
Well, normalization with China would be butterflied away.

Worse, a total embargo is on card.
 
Well, normalization with China would be butterflied away.

Worse, a total embargo is on card.

Like I posted, that was pretty much OTL till late '70s.
all depends on what happens after Mao kicks the bucket in '76. Does the drug selling go away or not?
 

Manman

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Another unseen consequence from this might see china become the world biggest maker of drugs in general. After all if they can make cocaine they can make other things. As for how they would get this materials deals with the less ethical nations and to the nations of the world would be possible.
 

Thomas1195

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Like I posted, that was pretty much OTL till late '70s.
all depends on what happens after Mao kicks the bucket in '76. Does the drug selling go away or not?
Without total embargo, the drugs would find their way to The West via third countries
 
Most of the Maoist’s in my area are part of the Filipino diaspora, NDF supporters that do community organizing. Not ultimately that different from the more organic wing (as in having real familial ties to Ireland, and esp NI) of Irish American pro IRA politics.

Interesting. The Canadian Maoists/Hoxhaists that I was familiar with had no family connections to China or Albania. They were, however, notable for their rapturous adulation of the man they called J.V. Stalin. This was, I believe, the one constant in their shifting menu of idolizations, and made them pretty distinct from all the other leftist groups you would come across.
 
Interesting. The Canadian Maoists/Hoxhaists that I was familiar with had no family connections to China or Albania. They were, however, notable for their rapturous adulation of the man they called J.V. Stalin. This was, I believe, the one constant in their shifting menu of idolizations, and made them pretty distinct from all the other leftist groups you would come across.
Canadian RCP can be ok, for shining pathists, and I’ll cop to a certain sympathy for the NPA. I mean, they have to be better that Duerte.
 

Manman

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The embargo doesn't matter. If drugs can cross our borders they can cross anywhere. Also good luck closing of that long a border.
 
Canadian RCP can be ok, for shining pathists, and I’ll cop to a certain sympathy for the NPA. I mean, they have to be better that Duerte.

Thanks. I wasn't aware of that organization. The group I knew was, of course, the storied CPC-ML, which by that time was NOT Maoist and hence not Shining Pathist.
 
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