Mano a Mano! (Manstein in Africa book 4)

This could end pretty favorably for the Axis, seeing how it is bigger, better equipped, and has had greater success so far.

Granted, the United States is getting more directly involved earlier but the Axis should still be able to prevent them from doing too much for a good while.

This Axis actually has a decent navy for the Atlantic, unlike OTL. So even as the US recovers from Operation Tiger (Or Pearl Harbor x2) and gets to work on producing ships, they still have to divide those ships up to cover both oceans.

It's not just escorts for subs, but two strong navies that can theoretically strike either American coastline at any time.

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Ultimately, I think the most likely outcome is the European Axis members getting a victory early enough that the US ends up having to accept Axis dominance of Europe. Something like the general public coming to view Axis Europe as invincible and someone not being willing to wait for a certain bomb that, as far as they know, might not even work. (It's still mainly theory at this point, isn't it?)

Japan is probably still boned, unless the rest of the Axis can give them a whole lot of extra support. Though hey, maybe they'll get a bone thrown their way. Crazier things have happened. If it looks like the Axis has defeated every other enemy but America, maybe the public will look at the cost of defeating them and say "Fuck that shit." and focus on making some sort of Fortress America. Eventually mixing in some nuclear deterrent.

(A big part of my predictions is I really can't see the UK holding out for much longer. Something has got to give with them. As well as me thinking the Soviets are going to lose.)

So yeah. Maybe I'm utterly wrong. We'll see.
 
The Axis will need to take some time to repair and resupply its warships after this whole operation is over.
Although the Axis navy was victorious so far, it will need some time to recover from the damage inflicted upon it by the British and Americans.

I wonder where the Axis can do this kind of repairs in this ATL. French ports are within range of RAF bomber command.
Are there any suitable harbors in the Med for this kind of heavy work?

On the other side, the way I see it, the Allies are out of warships. If the Axis moves into the Atlantic in force with surface combatants, the allied convoys are in a lot of trouble.
 
The bomber threat could easily be countered by concentrating a few fighter squadrons around the ports along with some heavy concentrations of flak. Since all *Axis members are reely producing war materiel on their own, those guns could likely be allocated accordingly.

Concerning the continuation of the Battle of the Atlantic: lots and lots of U-boats both German and *Axis with little chance for the Brits of intercepting the coded signals are present and will be used in bulk sooner or later. Look at what the Kriegsmarine was able to do in OTL's WW II WITHOUT too many surface forces and not all too many subs. Now, there are lots more major surface combatants and, more importantly, lots more willing participants in the war effort. And no cracked codes (yet?). This could mean a vastly different outcome compared to OTL.
 

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Ultimately, I think the most likely outcome is the European Axis members getting a victory early enough that the US ends up having to accept Axis dominance of Europe. Something like the general public coming to view Axis Europe as invincible and someone not being willing to wait for a certain bomb that, as far as they know, might not even work. (It's still mainly theory at this point, isn't it?)

Before Hiroshima, the general Allied public had no idea of the existence of Project Manhattan, it was a tightly-kept military secret, so the Bomb is going to play no role whatsoever in its judgement on whether the conventional war with the *European Axis is winnable or not.
 
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By someone, I meant one of those higher ups that knew about Manhattan.

I admit I could have done a better job of separating someone from the general public in that sentence.

Wasn't 41 still too early for anyone working on the project to know if they'd actually pull it off? The difference between theory and practice.
 

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By someone, I meant one of those higher ups that knew about Manhattan.

I admit I could have done a better job of separating someone from the general public in that sentence.

Wasn't 41 still too early for anyone working on the project to know if they'd actually pull it off? The difference between theory and practice.

Ah, sorry, I had indeed misunderstood your argument. Everything is OK, then. Well, nobody in the know about Project Manhattan really knew for sure if the Bomb would work till Trinity.
 
Before Hiroshima, the general Allied public had no idea of the existence of Project Manhattan, it was a tightly-kept military secret, so the Bomb is going to play no role whatsoever in its judgement on whether the conventional war with the *European Axis is winnable or not.

Actually the lack of knowledge by the general public concerning the A-Bomb would still be a major factor. Most Americans would probably think of a European invasion turning into trench-warfare again, this time against a very capable foe.

One point must not be missed though:
Blairwitch has already scheduled for the USSR to enter the conflict soon (actually during the Canaries campaign) against the Axis. This factor may be enough to make the Americans decide not to throw the towel in.
I am still quite interested in seeing how Stalin is supposed to get his Land Lease with the Axis dominating the Atlantic at this point.

On a side note:
Since the Germany-Japan cooperation in this ATL is much more developed and the USSR are the aggressor attacking Germany, will we see a Japanese declaration of war against the USSR? If yes, this will mean even more headaches for the Soviets, since they'll lose their Pacific Land Lease route with the US.
 

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Actually the lack of knowledge by the general public concerning the A-Bomb would still be a major factor. Most Americans would probably think of a European invasion turning into trench-warfare again, this time against a very capable foe.

Quite true. The American public would be (rightfully) concerned about a European invasion attempt turning into a mega-Gallipoli.

One point must not be missed though:
Blairwitch has already scheduled for the USSR to enter the conflict soon (actually during the Canaries campaign) against the Axis. This factor may be enough to make the Americans decide not to throw the towel in.

True as well. The Soviet attack on the *Axis is already a TL reality, which we ought to know more soon, as updates go. You are right that Soviet cobelligerance would make America (and Britain) decide not to throw the towel in, in the brief term. If however, as I fully expect, the USSR fares rather worse than OTL against the *Axis, both because the latter is much more formidable and because to attack puts the former at a long-term disadvantage, Soviet defeat would surely be the nail in the coffin of Western Allied morale. This is especially relevant as it concerns the fragile British morale. It ought to be definitely crumbling by now, with the Canarias apparently turning into yet another Allied defeat, and absolutely collapsing once the Soviets and the Battle of the Atlantic start to fare poorly, too. Something has got to give in Britain.

ITTL, America is as much bloodthirsty about the *Euro-Axis as it was about Japan, owing to Tiger, and this has to be factored in, but its belligerant urges are eventually going to cool down if and when Britain throws the towel and the USSR collapses. As we said, the US public knows nothing without the A-Bomb and cannot expect to win a conventional solo fight against *Axis Europe.

I am still quite interested in seeing how Stalin is supposed to get his Land Lease with the Axis dominating the Atlantic at this point.

On a side note:
Since the Germany-Japan cooperation in this ATL is much more developed and the USSR are the aggressor attacking Germany, will we see a Japanese declaration of war against the USSR? If yes, this will mean even more headaches for the Soviets, since they'll lose their Pacific Land Lease route with the US.

Hmm, I was assuming Japanese belligerance against the Soviet to be another TL fact. And you are right to assume that ITTL the Soviets would be very hard-pressed to get Land-Lease in any substantial numbers. The Pacific route would be closed by the IJN (even assuming that a stronger IJA thanks to German-Japanese tech exchanges and a defensive stance in China isn't simply able to conquer Vladivostok) and until the USN recovers, the Axis is going to dominate the Atlantic and turn that Land Lease route to Britain and even more so the Soviets to a trickle, as Jotun and Shogo pointed out. There would only be the Iran route available (assuming that the *Axis counterattack doesn't conquer southwestern Iran, otherwise it would only remain the logistically-poor India-Central Asia route), and with the *Axis controlling the Med and the Red Sea, it would be rather vulnerable to Axis subs and surface navy roaming the Indian Ocean.
 
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I thought of the Japanese attack on the USSR as more of a paper promise than anything that will necessarily happen. I agree they'll be able to keep the Pacific Lend-Lease route from being viable for a while at the very least.

But I very much doubt the Japanese will be making any major offensives against the Soviets unless an extremely obvious advantage opens up.
 

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I thought of the Japanese attack on the USSR as more of a paper promise than anything that will necessarily happen. I agree they'll be able to keep the Pacific Lend-Lease route from being viable for a while at the very least.

But I very much doubt the Japanese will be making any major offensives against the Soviets unless an extremely obvious advantage opens up.

Hmm, I was under the rather strong impression that ITTL the Japanese had committed much more strongly than that to full Axis solidarity. After all, Operation Tiger has benefited them as much as if not more than the Euro-Axis. And ITTL the Soviets have attacked first, so Japan is much more honor-bound to fight them. So I don't really think there is much room for Soviet-Japanese neutrality ITTL. They may or may not go to full offensive in the North, although I was under the strong impression they were gearing up for fighting the Soviets and the Anglo-Americans at the same time by going on the defensive in China. But in any case they are going to attack the USSR as soon as they perceive it is weakening, and the IJN is going to keep the Pacific Land-Lease route shut for a rather good while.
 
I thought of the Japanese attack on the USSR as more of a paper promise than anything that will necessarily happen. I agree they'll be able to keep the Pacific Lend-Lease route from being viable for a while at the very least.

But I very much doubt the Japanese will be making any major offensives against the Soviets unless an extremely obvious advantage opens up.

Japan in this TL is bound by treaty to join in the conflict against the Soviet Union, however; as will be developed a few updates down the road, their intervention will be a little more difficult and chaotic than their European counterparts
 
Hmm, I was under the rather strong impression that ITTL the Japanese had committed much more strongly than that to full Axis solidarity. After all, Operation Tiger has benefited them as much as if not more than the Euro-Axis. And ITTL the Soviets have attacked first, so Japan is much more honor-bound to fight them. So I don't really think there is much room for Soviet-Japanese neutrality ITTL. They may or may not go to full offensive in the North, although I was under the strong impression they were gearing up for fighting the Soviets and the Anglo-Americans at the same time by going on the defensive in China. But in any case they are going to attack the USSR as soon as they perceive it is weakening, and the IJN is going to keep the Pacific Land-Lease route shut for a rather good while.


There will be an update or two after the canaries ops that describes some of the political background just before and right after the Soviet attack on the Axis...I'll go into Japan's situation (vis a vis the Soviets) during those updates)

But you are correct. In accordance with their agreement with the Germans, they conducted a large series of defensive shifts and line shortening in China, and mobilized all of their reserves for a death struggle with the Soviet Union; the appearance being that they where concentrating assets against the Anglo-American's of course
 

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as will be developed a few updates down the road, their intervention will be a little more difficult and chaotic than their European counterparts

As it is to be expected. No matter how much ongoing tech and asset trade with the Germans has benefited them, they started from a rather worse modernization level of key parts of their army vis a vis the Soviets than the Germans, they have not benefited so much from year-long thorough economic and military integration with Germany like the rest of the Euro-Axis, and they face worse logistical troubles to attack the Soviets on their border than the Euro-Axis (with the exception of the Caucasus-Iran front of course).
 
Brinkmann VS King Part V (Chapter 6) The conclusion of Brinkmann VS King (although certain elements of the battle of the Atlantic will get separate updates later)

Lanzarote, Canary Islands May 1942

The Germans, and the axis as a whole had conducted a brutal self review (including Manstein's court of honor which discovered that Enigma was compromised) after their disasterous assault on Malta. Firstly, they expected to be assaulted at night, so their troops where on a high state of readiness. Second they wanted no chance of being caught by any surprise bombardments, so air patrols had traveled far and wide looking for any potential allied ships that might want to visit the island; and Tirpitz, Scheer and other heavy warships cruised around the islands to eliminate anyone who might want to sail through to the Canaries.

The sort of tactical circumstances that allowed Force H to tear up the 7th fleiger and the 7th panzer and evac most of the commonwealth forces off of Malta just didn't exist in this scenario for several reasons.

1. Lanzarote, and the Canaries as a whole where much more isolated from allied held mainland territory than Malta was
2. Axis air control over the airspace was much more organized and now better adapted to night fighting than it was the year before
3. The Royal Navy had been severely depleted by Japan and by Brinkmann's actions and just couldn't risk the resources for another major battle in the Atlantic for the time being (even quick destroyer runs where out of the question, because so many had been lost in the climatic naval battles, and combined with minimum requirements for convoy defense, the RN had nothing to spare at the moment)

It was against this backdrop that Major Owen tried to assault the Wacht bridgehead. His situation was already hopeless before he even tried to leave his start line though. Two of his companies had already been consumed in doomed battles against the Wacht, and the three that remained had suffered the effects of massive Axis bombing and where not anywhere near the strength they where, when he first landed on Lanzarote. Also disturbing reports continued to come in that English speaking Germans where ambushing his forward patrols and savagely killing them.

Oberstleutant Michael Sproessner of the 1st Battalion Wacht regiment had no such problems with his command. His reinforced battlegroup of 3000 elite men was in tact and due to their heavy and continuous fire support. He planned to eliminate the element of night altogether (even though his troopers where well trained in night tactics, and several of his companies had been through Bastico's new school of street fighting which put heavy emphasis on night combat). JU-88's and SM79's cruised over the island equipped with the lasted ground mapping type radars, whilst ME-110's and 210's circled peacefully, dropping parachute flares that would light up the sky for long periods and firing the occasional colored smoke rocket when they identified one of Major Owen's positions outside the perimeter. Brinkmann had his own part to play with his flag aboard Prinz Eugene. His vessel and Galacia stood by close off shore, pounding established targets in conjunction with Skorzeny, Sporessner and the Luftwaffe. Meanwhile his destroyer escorts pumped star shells and flares above the battlefield from close range to turn night into day.

Sproessner exploited his advantages to the fullest. He tasked his tanks along with a reinforced company of mechanized infantry and a battery of towed 75mm anti tank guns to burst out of the perimeter along backroads and hills to flank San Bartolome from the west, which would effectively cut Owen's position in half and doom his presence on the island. The Seawolves already caused severe chaos along their lines of advance and Bix's tank platoon burst ahead overrunning terrified infantry and using their own guns, plus the towed AT guns to leapfrog each other and eliminate recognized positions. Wacht infantry hopped down from their carriers to collect prisoners and secure territory for follow up supply convoys. The battlegroup mad progress of nearly 8 miles in the first two hours, and eliminated 200 of Owen's remaining troops. Desperate, he called upon his squadron of 12 A-12 cruiser tanks to counter attack and hurl the Germans back so they could be boxed in.

This ended up being a disaster as the moving tanks kicked up large amounts of dust and made themselves detectable to the prowling JU-88's overhead which engaged them with high explosive bombs and 20mm cannons. 8 of them where destroyed or disabled before they could close on Bix's battlegroup. The remaining 4 did elude to get within gun range of Bix; but then something he hadn't seen in two years of armored combat against the British happened; the tank crews opened their hatches and started waiving white flags. In all his experience the British always fought to the last round before they surrendered; he could feel something had changed, something was different. Bix collected his prisoner's and the battle group completed their knife across the center of the island without even encountering more of the enemy.

When the tanks had been knocked out, word spread around 5th battalion fast and more and more troops went forward to surrender to the Germans rather than be bombed or shelled into oblivion

Owen was shocked, but he had been a soldier long enough to know a losing hand when he had one. His message to London was devastating on a nation sorely needing good news

Situation on Lanzarote tactically and strategically impossible, troops surrendering due to heavy bombardment and situation. Will ask German ground forces commander for terms

God Save the King

Maj Conner Owen
5th Battalion 9th infantry
Most Secret

Owen didn't even get the chance for terms as his command fell apart from below, and he and his command where rapidly encircled and compelled to surrender.

This had a profound effect on the other islands defense. When Lanzarote fell, the Luftwaffe and other Axis airforces now had a major airbase from which it was possible to fly 5 bombing sorties a day from which made their positions completely untenable. The remaining six islands surrendered with hardly another shot fired at them. When the battlegroup from Wacht or San Marco arrived they where waiting to be carted off. Brinkmann couldn't believe it, he had finally shaken the morale of the British so much that they expected destruction.

The 9th division's loss sent shockwaves through London and the allied alliance. The newspaper's where stinging, calls for treason charges went out. Again questions about the government's competence where brought to the table; why had such a small force been allotted when the mission most certainly called for at least a corps if not a field army. Why had the Navy been risked again within range of axis land based air. American promises of aid where not winning the war... and many more charges where leveled against Attlee and his government. Furious conservative members of parliament went forward with a no confidence vote which he just barely squeaked out of and even this required shameful placing of blame on the previous government and the Americans and Admiral King. The vote was so close that Attlee felt crippled and unable to govern effectively; and after lengthy negotiations not even a proposed cabinet reshuffle would allow for any more confidence or stability.


In the end the Canaries was the exclaimation point on a 2 and a half year non stop series of disaster for the British empire. Every defeat was bad and inflicted serious moral and financial burden; but the battle of Lanzarote and the Canaries was utterly shameful, no other battle had called into question British courage before, and this one did. Such catastrophe's had happened before and countries had recovered... Italy had done so three times; Caporetto, Compass and Greece. The French had recovered from the savage blood letting at the battle of the frontiers to make a valiant stand at Verdun. Attlee brought in a new command hierarchy in the hopes of finally turning the war effort around, in his heart he realized his margin for error was essentially zero, the people's patience for the war was wearing thin, and more than one cabinet member who wasn't named Halifax had suggested it was time to ask Herr Hitler for terms

The war hung in the balance...

to be continued...

your thoughts?

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British prisoners where transported back to Germany after being taken on Lanzarote

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The Wacht regiment disembarks to assault Lanzarote

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The JU-88 patrols over the Canaries made the British position there impossible to defend

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Prinz Eugene gets to add yet another battle star to her pennant
 
Interesting to see where this is going.

I'm kinda curious seeing what Japan will do in light of the Soviet Union's entry to war.
 
If it's already been dealt with, I overlooked it but I am curious about something.

Liberia.

Vichy France's African holdings border that nation. Vichy France is a part of the Axis in this timeline.

So has Vichy taken the time to quickly snatch Liberia?

If nothing else than to deny the Allies as many potential friendly ports as possible when they start churning out ships to replace the smashed fleets.

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And accursed Britain. Just give up already. You're only making things worse for yourself. You still have time to save at least a little face.
 
Politics and the world stage (Chapter 7 and 8)

Europe May 1942


As the Canaries fell to the infantry of the axis a major inflection point in the war occured:

Britain: As described in the last chapter, the political situation had become extremely unstable and unpleasant following what seemed to be a non stop stream of disasters, only interrupted by the occassional "Mons" style battle (Dunkirk, full moon). The Royal Navy had taken a tremendous beating at the hands of the Axis and the loss of so many battleships had been financially, and humanly devastating. Even worse though, was the tremendous and continuous loss of destroyers. Although their production was reaching record highs, every time it seemed they encountered the enemy fleet, 10 of them would go to the bottom, which was devastating on morale. Something Churchill and Attlee dreaded was now happening, and for the moment there was nothing on earth they could do about it... the Brinkmann meatgrinder's had destroyed so many ships that to even maintain a modest home defense force, was now leaving assets thinner than desired for convoy defense. This in turn was leading to unbearable losses; not only from U-boats patrolling outside the range of land based air, but also from small task forces that where sortieing out of Gibraltar once every other week (usually cruisers in pairs with some attendant light forces) and interdicting trade routes to South America and also making runs around the Cape extremely dangerous. The loss of the 9th infantry had been a devastating and shameful event. The command shakeup that followed saw one of Britain's foremost thinkers on armored warfare Bernard Law Montergommery promoted, and he made it his business amongst the formations of the home army to raise their morale and give them confidence that they could beat the axis

USA: The US was in a position of a growing child furious at the world around them... soon they would be strong enough to destroy anyone they pleased, but for now they where stunted. The buildup for the 250 division army was going along at an acceptable pace, but to train and equip such a force to establishment was going to take two years... the initial 25 division expeditionary force was being kitted out at priority and would be combat ready before the end of the year (although this had cost them in terms of air force and naval buildup). With only Lexington available in the Pacific (the Saratoga would be in dry dock until November) and extremely heavy losses in carrier pilots in the Atlantic, there just wasn't much she could contribute navally until Essex and Independance where battle worthy and new air groups where properly trained up. Until then she would suffer, and she did... German and Italian U-boats paraded up and down the East Coast, where light and noise discipline was not up standard; and night after night the axis sank ships especially tankers within sight of the coastlines. The lack of destroyers was felt as more and more tonnage fell to the bottom of the Atlantic. The Seawolf attacks where worse. Britiain only experienced a scattering of them, since the Germans where in a position to just bomb things they wanted to destroy there; but against the US Hitler saw the seawolves as a potentially decisive weapon. Highly motivated men from Germany, Italy, Spain and France where infilitrated in, setting up safe houses, spying, occassionally attacking a military or civilian target for propaganda value. Their effect was exponential... Spy mania was everywhere; for every man the Germans actually got into New York or Washington, there where 1000 looking for them, arresting innocent people, and using heavy handed tactics on the populace out of frustration. It made FDR boil over with rage to know he just didn't really have any strategic options for the next year and that Hitler and the Japanese would get the run of town until then.

Germany: So far it had been a successful war, morale was high and the world seemed to be ripe for their taking. However behind the scenes it was far from a total sunshine picture. For the planned assault on Russia and to meet the needs of the now highly mobilized war economy the Germans had drafted over 85 percent of the men between the ages of 18-45 into uniform; which was tough on families back home. Despite conquests and alliances, several strategic materials remained in short supply. The Luftwaffe, despite its tremendous victories in the middle east had suffered very heavy casualties, that could only be replaced gradually as the new pilot schools would begin to bolster the available pool. Kitting out their allies, whilst helpful was also taxing on industry which was working on a 3 shifts crash shedule for a year; workers where tired, workers made mistakes and quality suffered to a degree. The Soviet move on Persia had caught them flat footed, and they had picked up ominous sides of a pending Russian invasion. The Brinkmann victories, as much as they helped for morale and tactically had been extremely costly and the new naval build up was taxing the war economy to the utmost... Hitler was still confident however that once he had the resources of the USSR at his fingertips that he would be able to paper over his shortages and problems so that he could finish the west once and for all

Italy: Italy was the glorious boxer... knocked down by Compass and Greece, but gotten up and through a haze of German aid and the maturing of their armed forces had punched the British to the mat. Naval losses where terrible to date, but the victories there had been worth it; and the carriers on line where being built in peace with high expectations. The army was rapidly growing in confidence and first class equipment as Stugg's and Panzer 4's along with German designed small arms and aircraft became the saples of the new Italian combined army. The 20 divisions scheduled to participate in Barbarossa had been through nearly a year of vigorous training and several had been rotated into the med, so that they had current combat experience. The remaining 12 divisions in Iraq where ready to defend their new prizes, and Benito was supremely confident; they had driven from Tripoli to Baghdad, they could hold back the Russians shoud the need arise

Japan: Japan should have occupied a role akin to Turkey in the last war, namely the sick man who couldn't fend for themselves. This wasn't the case though, where they had utterly lacked in strategic material resources to accomplish their many and diverse objectives; German generousity and the surprise and ruthlessness of their tactics had allowed them to catch the allies off balance and achieve stunning victories. The Phillipeans, Singapore and many other strategic bulwarks where falling. The introduction of the FW-190, which at a cost in range had proven superior in the hands of their experienced pilots to all allied aircraft, and filled a multitude of roles. The Panzer MK 4 whilst consuming the resources of slightly more than 2 of their own designs had also proven a worthwhile investment. Its range, power, armored protection, and most of all its hard hitting cannon was superior to anything else in the pacific. Over 400 of them where encamped in Manchuria for a drive against the Russians (250 German built 150 ethnically built)... the retirement to defensive positions in China, along with general mobilization had generated 40 frontline and 10 reserve divisions for the death struggle against the Soviet Union. Despite Toyko's promises to the contrary, the army wouldn't be ready in time for Barbarossa... the production of new small arms (especially German sub and general purpose machine guns) was going slowly and ammuntion stock piling was also behind schedule... it would be a shoestring operation, but the Japanese would count on the tanks to do all the dirty work and they had supreme confidence in the individual prowess of their infantry to accomplish whatever task was required.

USSR: Stalin had been briefed on the transfer of a full Luftflotte to attack the allied landings on the Canaries. He had planned for a May invasion anyway, but this gave him even more desire to speed up his assault. He had been truly impressed by the speed and ferocity of Buddeny's assault into Persia. He was convinced that the reforms and new equipment had soaked enough into the army where he could expect good performance. Stalin wasn't mindlessly optimistic though, he knew the Germans and the axis as a whole where new very combat experienced, and where formidable at the lower levels. His main hope, pinned on catching them flat footed; poised for an offensive and driven off balance... he absolutely needed to damage and overrun them to a major degree in the first wave; and thats what he planned to do committing over 5000 tanks in the first wave, including many of his newest and most modern designs

to be continued...

your thoughts?
 
The story will now shift to confrontations

Rommel Vs Zhukov
Manstein Vs Buddeny
Falkenhorst Vs Rokosovski
Schoerner Vs Voroshilov

These events will go on simultaneously with Stalin's operation storm offensive against the European axis

Does anyone have any preference for which one they want to read first
 

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The story will now shift to confrontations

Rommel Vs Zhukov
Manstein Vs Buddeny
Falkenhorst Vs Rokosovski
Schoerner Vs Voroshilov

These events will go on simultaneously with Stalin's operation storm offensive against the European axis

Does anyone have any preference for which one they want to read first

Nope.
Just write man.
;)
 
I vote for whichever has the fewest spoilers to the other three, if possible. Seems like Manstein would be the most isolated but that's for you to say.
 
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