Malê Rising

Ouch, this war was brutal and reminds me of the beginnings of Turkey : a war for the very survival of a nation. So in the end, Austria got Pressburg and the Burgerland, the Slovaks something like OTL Slovakia (maybe without the very south of the country), we know the frontier in the south. However, where is the Frontier in the east, does it includes Cluj?
You had a very nice idea with the kingdom of Transylvania (corresponding to Sicule land?).
So now the Balkans are in an uneasy peace but a peace nonetheless, and Hungary doesn't look like the most welcoming place.
 
Wow, the Poles preferred Slovaks over Hungarians? What happened to traditional Polish-Hungarian brotherhood? I must say I find it rather unlikely even if the Poles have hope to annex some border regions or vassalize the small country. I would think that the fact that the Hungarians are independent again would make the Poles overjoyed.
 
Wow, the Poles preferred Slovaks over Hungarians? What happened to traditional Polish-Hungarian brotherhood? I must say I find it rather unlikely even if the Poles have hope to annex some border regions or vassalize the small country. I would think that the fact that the Hungarians are independent again would make the Poles overjoyed.

With the way the Austrian empire was going its possible relations soured due to Hungarian troops in being involved in repressing polish nationalist groups in Galicia.
 
That almost brought a tear to my eye.

In a good way, I hope.

Looks like Hungary is finally settling down, though I wonder just how much is going to change there in the future, given the circumstances.

We haven't heard the last of Hungary or the Hungarians, especially since several thousand of them are on their way to central Africa.

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A lovely update, and tanks finally enter the fray :) . Or, to suggest another name for them, considering they seem to be an Austrian invention, Panzers. Or maybe Cataphracts.

They were a Bohemian invention, actually - an improvement on Great War models by the company that in OTL would become Skoda. I'm not sure if anyone's bothered to name them yet, given that they saw only limited use in the Hungarian civil war, but they'll probably have a name by the next one.

Ouch, this war was brutal and reminds me of the beginnings of Turkey : a war for the very survival of a nation. So in the end, Austria got Pressburg and the Burgerland, the Slovaks something like OTL Slovakia (maybe without the very south of the country), we know the frontier in the south. However, where is the Frontier in the east, does it includes Cluj?

Slovakia lost some territory to Hungary in the south and Poland in the north as compared to OTL (Poland got nearly all of its territorial claims against the Slovaks).

Hungary kept more territory in the east than it did in OTL, but it doesn't have Cluj; on this map, Bihor, Arad and Timiş counties are Hungarian.

You had a very nice idea with the kingdom of Transylvania (corresponding to Sicule land?).

It's the three counties at the very eastern end of Transylvania, along with bits and pieces of Mureş. Of course, it's a de facto vassal of Romania, given that it's completely surrounded by Romanian territory, but the Romanians and Hungarians are both tired enough of war to consider it the least bad option. It might eventually become another post-Westphalian data point. Eventually.

So now the Balkans are in an uneasy peace but a peace nonetheless, and Hungary doesn't look like the most welcoming place.

It isn't, but given what it's been through, that's probably to be expected.

Wow, the Poles preferred Slovaks over Hungarians? What happened to traditional Polish-Hungarian brotherhood? I must say I find it rather unlikely even if the Poles have hope to annex some border regions or vassalize the small country. I would think that the fact that the Hungarians are independent again would make the Poles overjoyed.

With the way the Austrian empire was going its possible relations soured due to Hungarian troops in being involved in repressing polish nationalist groups in Galicia.

That, along with (a) the chaotic and aggressive nature of the new Hungarian state; (b) the fact that the Poles on the Hungarian side of the border had a hard time during the civil war, with many becoming refugees; and (c) the fact that TTL's Poland is a German client and German priorities favor a smaller Hungary. Poland is happy enough that Hungary has regained its freedom, but would prefer a weak and compliant Slovak state on its border.

I'll defer to you on this, though; if you don't think that's enough to swing Poland to the Slovak side, I can change the last update so they stay neutral.
 
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Sulemain

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I have no idea why my username turned into a string of random numbers in your post. Oh well.

Might I suggest "nard" as the alternate name, from the Czech "nádrž" meaning tank.

Works better then barrel, for sure.
 
Might I suggest "nard" as the alternate name, from the Czech "nádrž" meaning tank.

Works better then barrel, for sure.

Are they even going to have a codename like "tank" in this timeline, though? If the main development is postwar, instead of being deployed as a secret weapon, they may end up with something more descriptive and straightforward.
 

Sulemain

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Are they even going to have a codename like "tank" in this timeline, though? If the main development is postwar, instead of being deployed as a secret weapon, they may end up with something more descriptive and straightforward.

The think is though, anything more accurate might not catch on. Obrněný vůz for steel-clad car might become "Obnenvuz" in the English; ob-nen-vuz.
 
The think is though, anything more accurate might not catch on. Obrněný vůz for steel-clad car might become "Obnenvuz" in the English; ob-nen-vuz.

How about rytíř for "knight," assimilating to ritter in German and rider in English.

(And sorry about the random numbers - I do most of the quotes manually, so I guess that was bound to happen sooner or later.)
 

Sulemain

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How about rytíř for "knight," assimilating to ritter in German and rider in English.

(And sorry about the random numbers - I do most of the quotes manually, so I guess that was bound to happen sooner or later.)

That could work. Heavy Rider, Light Rider, Anti-Rider missile, yeah, sure.
 
That could work. Heavy Rider, Light Rider, Anti-Rider missile, yeah, sure.

Easy Rider would be a different movie in TTL. :p

There's also želva for turtle or brouk for beetle - it might be interesting (in a strange sort of way) if *tanks were called "brooks" in English (or even "beetles").

Also, sorry I missed this:

Stamboul=Constantinople, right? Any reason for the preference?

That name was used colloquially during the nineteenth century in OTL, and in TTL was adopted by the Ottoman constitutional government of the 1870s for nationalist reasons and as a break with the past.
 
Marvelous update, although given my grandmother's family (who were Germans) lived in a village just north of Timisoara, you almost certainly killed them or made them refugees. :(

That portion of Banat was actually mostly German and Romanian, with few Hungarians, so there must have been some massive ethnic cleansing. I mean we're probably talking about at least 300,000 displaced Germans. Where do they run?
 
I just remembered about our dear old Teddy Rooservelt just now! Will we get to see him again once the updates swing to the Americas? Maybe a little bit more on his personal love life? :eek:
 
Marvelous update, although given my grandmother's family (who were Germans) lived in a village just north of Timisoara, you almost certainly killed them or made them refugees. :(

That portion of Banat was actually mostly German and Romanian, with few Hungarians, so there must have been some massive ethnic cleansing. I mean we're probably talking about at least 300,000 displaced Germans. Where do they run?

It was pretty bad - Gwench'lan's comparison to the foundation of modern Turkey isn't far from the mark.

The Romanian refugees went to the Romanian parts of the Banat and Transylvania from which the Hungarians had been ethnically cleansed, with those who couldn't find land moving on to Bucharest. Some of the Germans and Jews stayed in Romania too - the Romanians were willing to accept refugees of both nationalities, given that many of them had fought against the Hungarians during the war. But most of the Germans found their way to Austria or Germany, or to Bohemia or Poland if they had family there, and the Jews went all over. Your grandmother's family might be in Vienna at this point.

I just remembered about our dear old Teddy Rooservelt just now! Will we get to see him again once the updates swing to the Americas? Maybe a little bit more on his personal love life? :eek:

He'll show up during the next United States update, which will be in the 1910-20 cycle. An affair with W.E.B. du Bois isn't on the cards, though, not least because du Bois won't exist in TTL. :p
 

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How about rytíř for "knight," assimilating to ritter in German and rider in English.

(And sorry about the random numbers - I do most of the quotes manually, so I guess that was bound to happen sooner or later.)
I like that. I like that alot.
 
Updated the wiki page with a few more bits and bobs! Unfortunately I've run out of tropes that I can think of for Malê Rising. Anyone else knows an extra trope or two that can be used?

P.S: The whole examples list is looking a bit too long. Mind if I divide it into World and People sections?
 
Afghanistan, oh Afghanistan! What happened to you? Fairly curious, what with the new Turkic Republic to the north, and, well, the new partnership Raj India to the bottom. When Tsarist Russian forces retreated, did they support a breakaway state in Herat?

And I think a trip to Siam should be fairly interesting, if only because it is the crossroads between the Raj proper and Indochina, and where their influences meld. I'd expect a lot of Indian businessman here, and development, especially if a rail link between Rangoon and Singapore is possible.

Hmmm....we haven't been to Timbuktu and the Toucouleur Empire in a long time!
 
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