That works: get enough popularity to spin him off (or enough DC thinks he can help save a Green Arrow book), & either backburner him some in Outsiders or see if his sales improve enough to boost both. (TBH, I'd say, if he's strong enough to get spun off, don't screw it up by "pushing him out" of Outsiders--but that presupposes DC management is smart, which I can't guarantee.RandomIdeaGuy said:That's pretty much what I was thinking, too. Have him concurrently in the Outsiders and in his Alan Moore penned solo title. I think to be realistic we've got to have some down-time in popularity for J'onn, so putting him in the Outsiders would be a good way to put him "on the backburner" but then when that becomes popular it brings him back forward.
I had the impression the Speedy story was well before that.RandomIdeaGuy said:IOTL the Lantern/Arrow series IIRC ran 14 (!) issues before being cancelled around '73, then was revived in '76 and continued into '83 (roughly around the time the Outsiders were created). The first run was the one that focused on social issues, while the second run (76-83) focused on more personal stories and IIRC was the one that had Speedy on drugs.Which btw I think we should definitely keep and have J'onn as apart of that storyline (along w/ Canary and Ollie, of course).
If it's up to me, I'd butterfly any "kid sidekick". (Never a fan of the idea, except for Rick Jones, & that was more a "dual identity" with CM.) I wouldn't change the story too much, with that proviso. I'd want to do it sooner, if possible.
Yeah, here's hoping.RandomIdeaGuy said:Re: Dick, interestingly enough he was recruited by Speedy (then Arsenal) to join the early '00s version of the Outsiders. Hence why I thought to put Green Arrow on the '80s team. Also looking forward to that TNT series - hope it doesn't suck!
As for when, if things went as I'd foresee, we'd get a J'onn/Manhunter spinoff book (one title or the other; possibly both in the long run, per Luke Cage
If he's got others, I'm unaware of them. I understood his strength & invulnerability were on par with Supes, which makes a partner a bit pointless...RandomIdeaGuy said:With J'onn's powers, what exactly are they? I definitely think the shapeshifting and telepathy are both keepers. Flight's probably not necessary and maybe only a modicum of super-strength (say, more than Ollie but much less than Superman).
It's the same thing that makes Thor a problem in Avengers: he's got more power than all of them combined; what does he need them for? Supes, too. It's worse when your teammate is a guy with arrows.
You got me beat.RandomIdeaGuy said:A quick google search reveals that Stewart was created in '71 by the O'Neil/Adams team that was doing Lantern/Arrow at the time. I think maybe with declining sales they might have Stewart as the sole Lantern instead of "back-up Lantern" (WTF does that even mean?).
OTOH, when did the GL Corps actually gain popularity? I was never a fan (nor DC fan enough to know), but my sense was that was a quite late addition to the book: it existed, but was never (or almost never) actually seen until into the '80s. If it happens sooner (for whatever reason), it might be the reason to advance Stewart--"push" GLC, then drop or kill Hal.
Which is, perhaps, another thread...