Magellan in Edo: An alternate age of exploration

Magellan in Edo

Magellan in Edo first Chapter draft

Magellan in Edo
The first known contact between Guam and Western Europe occurred when Ferdinand Magellan, a Portuguese explorer, anchored his small 3-ship fleet in Umatac Bay on March 6, 1521. Magellan had started out in Spain with five ships but by the time they reached the Marianas they were down to three ships and lost close to half their crew. One of the five original ships got destroyed, and after seeing the first ship go down another ship had a mutiny and took off. So two of the five ships and its men were lost by the time they got to the Marianas. Hungry and weakened from their long voyage, the crew quickly prepared to go ashore and restore provisions. However, the excited native Chamorros, who did not share the Spaniards concept of ownership or subsistence living, canoed out first and began helping themselves to everything that was not nailed down to the ship. "The aboriginals were willing to engage in barter... Their love of gain overcame every other consideration" Magellan mistakes the curious Chamorros as thieves, naming Guam the "Island of Thieves". The weakened sailors had trouble fending off the tall and robust natives until a few shots from the Trinidad's big guns frightened them off the ship and they retreated into the surrounding jungle. Magellan was eventually able to obtain rations and offered iron, a commodity highly prized by Neolithic peoples, in exchange for fresh fruits, vegetables, and water. Details of Magellan's visit, and the first known Western documentation of Guam and the Chamorro, come from the journal of Antonio Pigafetta, one of Magellan's 18 original crew members to survive Ferdinand Magellan's circumnavigation of the globe.

Magellan decided to discover the islands north which was also settled by the Chamorro since he felt that the Chamorros were a nice people and want to discover more about them. He discovered new islands at the north of the island of the Chamorros called the Marianas Islands and then islands which were uninhabited which is now known as Ogasawara/Bonnin islands which were empty, which led to the Izu and Hachijo(Hachigio) Islands and later to Edo in Nihon.


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aah, an earlier contact between the east and west.
when you write this timeline, please consider Korea as within your range of possibilities. I would like to see what effects foreign trade has on Korea..:p
also, consider me subscribed. very interesting POD.
 
This is the rough of my rough idea in this timeline:

-The Japanese helps Rajah Suleiman, who was preferred over to Lakandula who in OTL has Spanish help and pledged allegience with the Spanish, the Spanish later back-stabbed him, this does not happen ITTL and the Bruneians are expelled from Luzon/Selurong completely due to Japanese help.

-No Sakoku

-Japanese settle Taiwan

-No Imjin
 
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Magellan in Edo

The first known contact between Guam and Western Europe occurred when Ferdinand Magellan, a Portuguese explorer, anchored his small 3-ship fleet in Umatac Bay on March 6, 1521. Magellan had started out in Spain with five ships but by the time they reached the Marianas they were down to three ships and lost close to half their crew. One of the five original ships got destroyed, and after seeing the first ship go down another ship had a mutiny and took off. So two of the five ships and its men were lost by the time they got to the Marianas. Hungry and weakened from their long voyage, the crew quickly prepared to go ashore and restore provisions. However, the excited native Chamorros, who did not share the Spaniards concept of ownership or subsistence living, canoed out first and began helping themselves to everything that was not nailed down to the ship. "The aboriginals were willing to engage in barter... The natives exchanged their fruits for weapons and guided them in their islands.

Details of Magellan's visit, and the first known Western documentation of Guam and the Chamorro, come from the journal of Antonio Pigafetta, one of Magellan's 18 original crew members to survive Ferdinand Magellan's circumnavigation of the globe.

Magellan decided to discover the islands north which was also settled by the Chamorro since he felt that the Chamorros were a nice people and want to discover more about them. He discovered new islands at the north of the island of the Chamorros called the Marianas Islands and then islands which were uninhabited which is now known as Ogasawara/Bonnin islands which were empty, which led to the Izu and Hachijo(Hachigio) Islands and later to Edo in Nihon where they were able to tour and they toured as well to the Southern Islands, in there they realized that the Central Japanese Dialects including the one in Edo is very similar to Castillan in Phonology it has h for the f in other Japanese dialects.

The crew of Magellan visited South of China particularly Canton after leaving Japan, then they arrived in Tonkin Gulf then to Palawan and Sulu then to Java where they set sail to the Indian Ocean and passed to the Cape of Good Hope then Circumnavigated Africa and were able to arrive back in Spain on October 1522 and Magellan said he arrived safe and went to see his son and wife again and report to King Charles I of Spain in order to report his journey and about what he found out.



Two forms of Japanese as transcribed by the Spanish traders to Japan
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Lakan Suleiman chapter draft
Some Spanish merchants arrive on Japan on the 1522-1570 period from New Spain and the missionaries recorded and transcribed Japanese on Latin Orthography although two forms of Japanese have been recorded, the Japanese were not that keen to adapt the new religion promoted by the merchants with the exception of Kyushu which became heavily christianized on 1570 and almost all of the daimyo there had been turned Christian, Japan was temporarily united by Oda Nobunaga and Toyotomi Hideyoshi(Toiotomi Hideioxi(Fideioxi)).


Lakan Suleiman starts to reign on the Polity of Tondo on 1570, his enemy is Lakan Dula or Dula who is also claiming the Lakan title, the two are about to battle for the control of Selurong or Mayi called as Selurong or Bahi, the Japanese at this point have a name for Selurong or Mayi or Tondo and it is Umaikoku, the alternate names are Tondo and Bahi, at this point in time he has the help of the Japanese against Lakandula.


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Lakan Suleiman

Some Spanish merchants arrive on Japan on the 1522-1570 period from New Spain and the missionaries recorded and transcribed Japanese on Latin Orthography although two forms of Japanese have been recorded, the Japanese were not that keen to adapt the new religion promoted by the merchants with the exception of Kyushu which became heavily christianized on 1570 and almost all of the daimyo there had been turned Christian, Japan was temporarily united by Oda Nobunaga and Toyotomi Hideyoshi(Toiotomi Hideioxi(Fideioxi)).


Lakan Suleiman starts to reign on the Polity of Tondo on 1570, his enemy is Lakan Dula or Dula who is also claiming the Lakan title, the two are about to battle for the control of Selurong or Mayi called as Selurong or Bahi, the Japanese at this point have a name for Selurong or Mayi or Tondo and it is Umaikoku, the alternate names are Tsundzun(Tundun) and Bahi, at this point in time he has the support of the Japanese traders north of Irraya.


Lakan Suleiman was able to make the people of Selurong unite and rally over him and Lakandula had no choice but to give up his own claims, the capital moved to Makabebe and the people of Selurong no longer want to be associated with Brunei so Lakan Suleiman decided to sever its ties to Brunei after he strengthened his rule there.


The Japanese Wokou had settled Tapangga[1] which had hostile natives as their base of operations, the Wokou married aboriginal wives who did not want to follow the strict customs of their lands.


At this point in time, the Spanish are starting to colonize Palawan on 1570 which is a territory of the Bruneian Sultanate under Legaspi and the Sulu Sultanate warred with the Madya-as confederation on 1530 due of the desire of the expansionist sultan and ended up gobbling up Madya-as, the Kingdom of Butuan also became a autonomous part of the Sulu Sultanate.

1.OTL Taiwan

The next update will be about Russia.
 
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Battle of Molodi

The Battle of Molodi (Russian: Молодинская битва) was one of the key battles of Ivan the Terrible's reign. It was fought near the village of Molodi, 40 mi south of Moscow, in July-August 1572 between the 120,000-strong horde of Devlet I Giray of Crimea and about 60,000 Russians led by Prince Mikhail Vorotynsky. The Crimean horde was defeated so thoroughly that both the Ottoman Sultan and the Crimean khan, his vassal, had to give up their ambitious plans of northward expansion into Russia forever.

While Tsardom of Russia was involved into the Livonian War, the Crimean khan hoped to make profit from the weakness of its south borders. In the course of three expeditions, Devlet I Giray devastated South Russia and even sacked and set Moscow on fire. On 26 July 1572 the huge horde of the khan, equipped with cannons and reinforced by Turkish janissaries, crossed the Oka River near Serpukhov, decimated the Russian vanguard of 200 noblemen and advanced towards Moscow in order to pillage it once again. Little did they know, however, that the Russians had prepared for the new invasion, setting up innovative fortifications just beyond the Oka, but the forces of the Crimeans were helped by a surprise contingent of Ottomans who followed the Crimeans in the battle.

The Russian forces, variously estimated at between 60,000-70,000 men, were placed under the supreme command of Prince Mikhail Vorotynsky. Prince Repnin led the left flank, while the right flank was commanded by Prince Odoevsky. On 30 July the armies clashed near the Lopasnya River without so much as a prior reconnaissance. The fighting continued for several days, reaching its peak on 8 August. The large amount of close-in fighting made the Tatars' famed skill in archery quite useless: the battle was fought principally with sabers and spears. Artillery was also used by the Russians to great effect. The outcome was decided by the Ottoman troops that joined the Crimeans and the Crimeans occupied the area on the lower part the Volga river on the Kazan area and south of Volga.


After the battle the 50,000 Tatar horsemen remained in the Russian steppes and the Ottoman troops returned to their homeland, while the khan returned glorious to Crimea, this was called as the miracle of Crimea.
 
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Hm, so instead of "sh" the Japanese use "x", like in Pinyin, for transliteration purposes ITTL? Interesting. Also I would have expected at least decent conversion rates to Christianity a la Korea, though I'm not to knowledgeable on the conditions for it to happen.
 
Hm, so instead of "sh" the Japanese use "x", like in Pinyin, for transliteration purposes ITTL? Interesting. Also I would have expected at least decent conversion rates to Christianity a la Korea, though I'm not to knowledgeable on the conditions for it to happen.
Yeah...it is mostly the missionaries that use that transliteration,it will be supplanted by a more common one..the romance like transliteration is used by the Iberian countries to transliterate Japanese in ITTL..there will also be also other transliteration methods by other countries for the Japanese language, I think the French and English will use something identical to the OTL one and the Slavic countries like Bohemia will also have one, the transliteration of the most dominant country ITTL will be the one commonly used for Japanese in this TL later on.

I put that transliteration method in this story since that transliteration method will have an important role in this TL.
 
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Missed Opportunities chapter draft


The Spanish secure both Guam and Palawan as Paragoa on 1600, under the leadership of Miguel Lopez de Legaspi, he was cruel on the colonizations, but at this time the surrounding polities don't want to contact him and don't care and the Sulu Sultanate is more of a threat to the colonies he started..




On 1610, the Japanese under the leadership of Oda Nobunaga and his underling Toyotomi decided to close Japan and ban Christianity, however, Kyushu(Quiuxu) rebelled since the majority of the people of Kyushu are Christian including the Satsuma area causing Japan to split into two, a Christian open Japan in Kyushu and a Isolationist Honshu the Christian Kyushu also conquered Shikoku on the war, the secession war was bloody and lasted for 10 years that there were many casualties and it ended on 1620, the language of Central Japan and the one in Kyushu had already diverged, the area of Shimane had been resettled by people of Central Japan causing it to lose its distinctiveness the areas of Honshu nearby Kyushu have dialects transitional to Kyushuan and Honshu Japanese, the Tohoku dialects have crossed the straight to Yezo, the dialect in Yezo and the Northern tip of Tohoku is starting to diverge from Central Japanese while the dialect of the Southern Tohoku is transitional but more veering towards to the Central dialects and the border between Southern Tohoku and Yezo dialect/language is stiff or abrupt, the Yezo is not under the Japanese administration and not ruled by any Japanese administration, the people of Kyushu were easily indoctrinated by the priests due to the Daimyo in Kyushu liking the new religion.


On Yezo the ki of Old Japanese changed to chi while the kwi of Old Japanese became ki.


The Center of the new Japanese polity in Kyushu is centered on Nagasaki and the Kyushu polity have good relations with the Spanish who have a trading and defensive pact with them.


After Kyushu(Quiuxu) seceded, some of its people start to settle in Ryukyu and Northern Tapangga causing some conflict with the people of Tapangga although the Wakou had already settled Tapangga.

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Ah so desu! The Shimabara Rebellion or something similar to it is more successful than IOTL. That would be something to behold in more detail.
 
Ah so desu! The Shimabara Rebellion or something similar to it is more successful than IOTL. That would be something to behold in more detail.

I just can't wait to show you all what I am planning,I changed this to chapter draft so you could see that this is not final, there are still some details I am planning to put.
 
Missed Opportunities
The Spanish secure both Guam and Palawan as Paragoa on 1600, under the leadership of Miguel Lopez de Legaspi, he was cruel on the natives of the places he conquered, but at this time the surrounding polities don't want to contact him and don't care and the Sulu Sultanate is more of a threat to the colonies of Spain he started.
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Seeing Christianity as a threat, on 1600, the Japanese government under the leadership of Oda Nobunaga and his underling Toyotomi decided to ban Christianity, the persecutions started and the Christians started to flock in Kyushu, the laws banning Christianity started to show up in 1610 it was first felt in Kyushu and the Daimyo including the Satsuma and majority of the people of Kyushu were against it causing the Satsuma and the other clans to rebel against the Oda Shogunate the rebellion was led by the daimyos of Kyushu including Shimazu Tadatsune (also called as Iehisa(Iefisa) by Nobunaga) who earlier also became Christian due to his people embracing the new faith, Kyushu(Quiuxu) rebelled because the majority of the people of Kyushu are Christian including the Satsuma area causing Japan to split into two, a Christian open Japan in Kyushu and a closed Honshu the Christian Kyushu also conquered Shikoku on the war, the secession war was bloody and lasted for 10 years that there were many casualties and it ended on 1621, the other Christians in Japan were deported to Kyushu after the secession war which cost many lives, Honshu allowed traders to come in but not missionaries and no prosetylization of Christianity is allowed.

The language of Central Japan and the one in Kyushu had already diverged, the area of Shimane had been resettled by people of Central Japan causing it to lose its distinctiveness the areas of Honshu nearby Kyushu have dialects transitional to Kyushuan and Honshu Japanese, the Tohoku dialects have crossed the straight to Yezo, the dialect in Yezo and the Northern tip of Tohoku is starting to diverge from Central Japanese while the dialect of the Southern Tohoku is transitional but more veering towards to the Central dialects and the border between Southern Tohoku and Yezo dialect/language is stiff or abrupt, the Yezo is not under the Japanese administration and not ruled by any Japanese administration, the people of Kyushu were easily indoctrinated by the priests due to the Daimyo in Kyushu liking the new religion, the King of Ryukyu, Sho Fo was also made the ruler of the new country in Kyushu and missionaries started to flow to Korea as well, the capital of Christian Kyushu is Nagasaki.

On Yezo the ki changed to chi, the Hi of the Central Japanese dialects became started to become Shi causing the name Hideyoshi to be Shideyoshi but the dialects west of Kansai remained the distinction of Hi and Shi until the present.

The Center of the new Japanese polity in Kyushu is centered on Nagasaki and the Kyushu polity have good relations with the Spanish who have a trading and defensive pact with them.

After Kyushu(Quiuxu) seceded, some of its people start to settle in Ryukyu and Northern Tapangga causing some conflict with the people of Tapangga although the Wakou had already settled Tapangga.

In the meantime Korea is starting to christianize at this point, although the ruler of Joseon knows nothing about the prosetylizations.​
 
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