M. Twain's radical essays get him booted from American pantheon

I'm thinking mostly of some hypertrophied backlash to these two pieces...

To The Person Sitting In Darkness

The United States Of Lyncherdom

And I don't mean he's ostracized to the point of eg. students at Yale needing special permission to take his books from the library(as I've heard was the case with De Sade well into the 20th Century). He'd still be read and enjoyed in university literature classes, and by the higher-browed among laymen. But he'd be considered suspect enough that no one would dream of making a movie of Tom Sawyer geared toward kids, or even a pop-up book of The Jumping Frog Contest.

(Maybe something roughly analagous to the way the beats were treated a few generations later: you could buy Howl at Waldenbooks, but Ginsberg wasn't getting invited to do cameos on Sesame Street.)

I'm wondering if a more vicious(from the US perspective) Philippine occupation, with the war brought back to the motherland via domestic terrorism, would cause TTPSID being to be viewed with a more hostile eye(parts of it actually sound like they could be part of a terrorist communique). And Twain himself said he refrained from publishing Lyncherdom because it would destroy his reputation in the south.

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I'm thinking mostly of some hypertrophied backlash to these two pieces...

To The Person Sitting In Darkness

The United States Of Lyncherdom

And I don't mean he's ostracized to the point of eg. students at Yale needing special permission to take his books from the library(as I've heard was the case with De Sade well into the 20th Century). He'd still be read and enjoyed in university literature classes, and by the higher-browed among laymen. But he'd be considered suspect enough that no one would dream of making a movie of Tom Sawyer geared toward kids, or even a pop-up book of The Jumping Frog Contest.

(Maybe something roughly analagous to the way the beats were treated a few generations later: you could buy Howl at Waldenbooks, but Ginsberg wasn't getting invited to do cameos on Sesame Street.)

I'm wondering if a more vicious(from the US perspective) Philippine occupation, with the war brought back to the motherland via domestic terrorism, would cause TTPSID being to be viewed with a more hostile eye(parts of it actually sound like they could be part of a terrorist communique). And Twain himself said he refrained from publishing Lyncherdom because it would destroy his reputation in the south.
More media coverage to the Philippine American War would help
 

dcharles

Banned
I like the idea of Twain becoming radicalized in general.

"Twain: The American Danton" is a story that needs to be written. Someone do it before I do.
 
Have you ever read his comments on the "Two Reigns Of Terror"?

“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”

 
For the record, that quote is from A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court. I've never read the book, but I assume it's meant to be in the authorìal voice.
 
No problem. The issue with "Twain as Danton" is...he needs a revolution.

Twain was a free-trading liberal, so from his standpoint, the major revolutionary action of his time had been the American Civil War, an event in which he played a very marginal role, on the "aristocratic" side.
 

McPherson

Banned
“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”
Twain was a free-trading liberal, so from his standpoint, the major revolutionary action of his time had been the American Civil War, an event in which he played a very marginal role, on the "aristocratic" side.
I found Samuel Clemens to be a bit of an intellectual hypocrite, but that is more based on his refusal to take the civil disobedience plunge. The quote is about "religion" and not "capitalism" as most modern Marxist and socialist activist deconstructionists assume. In fact, Mister Clemens makes it clear, in "A Connecticut Yankee" that he equates religion and magical thinking to be at variance with "scientific progressivism" which is "the Connecticut Yankee".

I find it curious that he had a political fondness for the racist supremacist, Woodrow Wilson, an atavistic regressive unreconstructed lying Lost Cause mythologizing RAT BASTARD, and the very epitome of the exact opposite of what Clemens claimed he supports in that novel.
 
I found Samuel Clemens to be a bit of an intellectual hypocrite, but that is more based on his refusal to take the civil disobedience plunge. The quote is about "religion" and not "capitalism" as most modern Marxist and socialist activist deconstructionists assume. In fact, Mister Clemens makes it clear, in "A Connecticut Yankee" that he equates religion and magical thinking to be at variance with "scientific progressivism" which is "the Connecticut Yankee".

I find it curious that he had a political fondness for the racist supremacist, Woodrow Wilson, an atavistic regressive unreconstructed lying Lost Cause mythologizing RAT BASTARD, and the very epitome of the exact opposite of what Clemens claimed he supports in that novel.
Consistency is the defense of the small mind, and all that. People are complicated.
 
I found Samuel Clemens to be a bit of an intellectual hypocrite, but that is more based on his refusal to take the civil disobedience plunge. The quote is about "religion" and not "capitalism" as most modern Marxist and socialist activist deconstructionists assume. In fact, Mister Clemens makes it clear, in "A Connecticut Yankee" that he equates religion and magical thinking to be at variance with "scientific progressivism" which is "the Connecticut Yankee".

I find it curious that he had a political fondness for the racist supremacist, Woodrow Wilson, an atavistic regressive unreconstructed lying Lost Cause mythologizing RAT BASTARD, and the very epitome of the exact opposite of what Clemens claimed he supports in that novel.

Wilson was seen as a progressive who took on his state's party machine as Governor of New Jersey, and he got the upper hand against Champ Clark at the 1912 Convention after Tammany Hall endorsed the latter, which caused William Jennings Bryan to come out in favor of Wilson. The obvious Southern racist at that convention was Oscar Underwood.

Not to say Wilson wasn't really racist himself, it's just that that wasn't his public image at the time.
 

McPherson

Banned
Wilson was seen as a progressive who took on his state's party machine as Governor of New Jersey, and he got the upper hand against Champ Clark at the 1912 Convention after Tammany Hall endorsed the latter, which caused William Jennings Bryan to come out in favor of Wilson. The obvious Southern racist at that convention was Oscar Underwood.

Not to say Wilson wasn't really racist himself, it's just that that wasn't his public image at the time.
Did I mention that Wilson was a lying rat bastard?
 
Did I mention that Wilson was a lying rat bastard?

Well, yes, but something something, isn't that all politicians.

I'm just saying we can't expect people to have looked at Wilson's record in 1912 and foresaw him instituting a police state and trying to run for a third term from his deathbed while his wife secretly ran the country.
 

McPherson

Banned
Well, yes, but something something, isn't that all politicians.
There are the usual American politicians of the era and there is the incompetent who thought he could publish this garbage;


This one should be filed under fantasy...

Division and Reunion:1829-1889

I need not point out that Wilson and crew used Madison Avenue techniques to sell war? (Sure, it has been replicated, Gulf Of Tonkin and the Persian Gulf Wars, but never as insidiously evil as the Wilson "group hate" prototype model that has been copied by many "totalitarian regimes" since.)

But this is not about Wilson. This is about Mister Clemens who lived through the American Civil War and who should have been intellectually honest enough and he was certainly smart enough to see through that transplanted
"Princeton-ruining racist-totalitarian tin-pot demagogue dishonest-scholar and pretend "reformer and friend of the little man".
"southern gentleman".
 
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