Luxembourg remains in personal union with the Netherlands

Often we see threads about Hanover remaining in personal union with Britain. Interestingly enough the situation of luxembourg is comparable, a part ofthe German confederation in personal union with a foreign monarch. Unlike Denmark, which was in the same position with Schleswig-Holstein, Prussia had never gone to war with the Netherlands, because the Netherlands never tried to incorparate it (although good relations between Prussia and the Netherlands might have had something to do with it). Because of the personal union it never ended up becoming part of Germany (ignoring the occupation during both world wars). The personal union ended in 1890 when Wilhelmina became queen of the Netherlands and because Salic law Luxembourg became a completely independent country*.

So, what if Luxembourg remained in personal union with the Netherlands after 1890. The POD aren't that hard to think of. King Willem III had three sons and two of them survived childhood. So what if they got married and had (male) children, who also survived long enough to reproduce male heirs. Another option is a brother for Wilhelmina or instead of Wilhelmina. As these POD are before 1890, I expect some butterflies, but none of them large enough to prevent German unification or the Franco-German rivalry.

Anyway, the how isn't that important. Far more interesting would be the results; or I at least I suspect they are/could be. This will inevitably lead to closer ties to Luxembourg and the Netherlands. I doubt Luxembourg will be integrated into the Netherlands. Neither France, nor Germany, nor Belgium would like that and actualy I doubt the Netherlands would be interested in it or the Luxembourgians would want it. Would the only consequence be that the Netherlands get involved in the first world war (assuming it isn't butterflied away). or maybe would a Dutch Luxembourg lead to a new Luxembourg crisis, maybe setting of that world war (or at ;least a very big horrible war, even if it isn't aworld war)?



* which depends on your definition of independent, you could say it has been independend since 1815, anyway you know what I mean.
 
Hmmm, I hoped at least someone would react on this, even if it was just me again. I think I'll bump this, hoping someone else would react, or maybe just get inspired for a future timeline.
 
I'll stick to the POD itself. Since there's no real need for changing birth, I'll discuss the two options:
1. Maurits doesn't suffer from meningitis. This leaves us with an essentially blank sheet concerning his character, although that means there can be butterflies from around 1850.
2. Alexander doesn't get depressed after his mother's death. He was an interesting guy, intellectual and melancholic. He didn't marry, which could lead to problems later. Ofcourse, if he actually became King, that might change.
 
German troops marched through Holland in OTL WWI to reach Belgium, even though the Dutch were neutral. Perhaps the Germans just pass through Luxenburg without occupying it with minimal butterflies...
 

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German troops marched through Holland in OTL WWI to reach Belgium, even though the Dutch were neutral. Perhaps the Germans just pass through Luxenburg without occupying it with minimal butterflies...

Actually, according to the Polish Genocide, the Germans did not. Apparently, they were supposed to, but Moltke modified the von Schlieffen Plan, and was criticized for it.
 
German troops marched through Holland in OTL WWI to reach Belgium, even though the Dutch were neutral. Perhaps the Germans just pass through Luxenburg without occupying it with minimal butterflies...
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Holland =/= Netherlands. It's a state within the Netherlands, yes, but that's like referring to the whole United States as "New York" or all of the United Kingdom as "England."

/lecture
 
:mad:

Holland =/= Netherlands. It's a state within the Netherlands, yes, but that's like referring to the whole United States as "New York" or all of the United Kingdom as "England."

/lecture
And I thought it would be a better quibble to say they were going to march through southern Limburg as part of the Schleiffen Plan, since Holland is in a completely different part of the Netherlands.:p
 
German troops marched through Holland in OTL WWI to reach Belgium, even though the Dutch were neutral. Perhaps the Germans just pass through Luxenburg without occupying it with minimal butterflies...

Even if this was true, I really doubt that nationalistic Germans would ignore Luxembourg. It was one of the areas they considered part of Germany. If a "worldwar"would develope and the Germans ignore the Belgian neutrality, they will almost certainly ignore Luxembourg (and because of that) Dutch neutrality.
 
I would choose the POD to be in 1815 itself, with Luxemburg being integrated into the Netherlands itself, instead of being an independent country in personal union.
 
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Holland =/= Netherlands. It's a state within the Netherlands, yes, but that's like referring to the whole United States as "New York" or all of the United Kingdom as "England."

/lecture

well to be far it isn't as incorrect as calling the USA New York, i mean the Netherlands was once called Holland, the Kingdom of Holland that is (from 1806-1810) and Holland has always been the flag ship Sate (much like England in the UK) also the Netherlands isn't right ether, it's the Kingdom of the Netherlands, (of which the Netherlands is only part) it's like talking about Puerto Rico as if it's a country on it's own
 
Interesting tread, suppose the Luxembourgers drop the medival sallic law and recognize the infant queen Wilhelmina.
WW1 isn't butterfleid away, 'cause Netherland and Luxembourg were places you have to go if the end of times came, since it leaped 50 years behind the rest of the world.
WW1 eupted like OTL. Luxembourg and the Netherlands are 1 personel union= Von Schliefen plan is executed as original plan. Luxemburg overwhelmed and the Netherlands invaded, south of the rivers rhine and meuse.. Dutch army battered and retreats behind its water lines, stand off for the end of the conflict....?? which goes more or less as Otl?
 
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