Ludendorff's World - A TL on a Central Power victory (Old)

Prologue
Washington DC, United States of America, circa 1948

The man who sat in the Oval Office was the typical American president who would face their threats without pulling back. A straight face always on, he knew that he had a legacy to fill. His father, Teddy Roosevelt made America a proud world power, defeating the Spanish in 1898 and giving America a true place in the world. A man who thought that the "hermit" president Wilson was a no different a traitor than an Kraut to his own nation and allied for letting the Germans run loose in Europe. This man was Teddy Roosevelt Jr., son to Teddy Roosevelt, president from 1901 to 1909. After a recent war meeting with his generals, Teddy Roosevelt Jr. returned back to the oval office pondered outside a window in his lofty chair, watching the early dawn sun rise as sun began. One of the White House servants entered the Oval Office to give Teddy Roosevelt Jr. fresh gourmet breakfast for a president under war stress. Usual breakfast food was served, sizzling bacon and fresh hot eggs alongside sausages and toast with a steaming cup of coffee.

Before the servant left, Teddy Roosevelt Jr. rose up from his chair and said, "I've been holding this in the back of my head for a while..." he said to the servant about to leave, "Just... About how we got to this situation we are in right now.". The servant hesitated for a little but, but replied, "Is there a problem president?". Teddy Jr. turned around to see the servant and looked back at the window and said, "Nothing... Well... With me personally, just how once decades ago, the Germans barely reached up to be a world superpower on the class of the British and Russians" he stuttered, "Now... They forged a colossal empire that poses a detrimental threat to all of American liberty that our nation stand for!". He sat back into his chair again, "Just... if only the "hermit" president Wilson just gave those Krauts a lesson back in the First Great War, we just could've made a world truly safe for democracy don't ya think?".
 
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So America and Wilson Stayed neutral in ww1 does that mean: They didn't sell a Gigantic nuber of Rifles, Rifle- Ammunition, Artillery shells, Artillery Cannons, Canned Foods Trained War-Horses, Naval equipment, Ship Cannons(Salamis), U- Boats etc.?
 
Why would a victorious German Empire pose any particular threat to the US? How could it project any power across the Atlantic?
 
This is interesting. Don't think I've ever seen a timeline on here where the Kaiser's Germany and the USA are the prime rivalries. Usually, its the British Empire versus a more successful German Empire which makes me wonder how the Germans will go about reducing the threat from the Royal Navy in this scenario.
 
Why would a victorious German Empire pose any particular threat to the US? How could it project any power across the Atlantic?
I thought that if the German Empire was victorious in Europe, they would have lots of ambitions in South America and had lots to plans in challenging American hegemony in the Americas, especially South America in particular. If the British Royal Navy is severely weakened and Willy continues to build up a massive navy fleet on par to the Royal Fleet and being a large economic power nearly as powerful as America, South America might have some nations drifting towards the kaiser.
 
I like this, Ted Jr as POTUS. I visited his grave in Normandy once, he and his brother are next to each other.
Yeah, I had to have an American president who would face the Germans and lead America as a great power, and who better than Teddy Roosevelt Jr. who actually fought in WW2. On a side note, its really cool that you actually visited Teddy Roosevelt Jr.'s grave.
 

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Why is it Ludendorff's world? Did he overthrow the Kaiser, or perhaps he retired from the Heer and was appointed Chancellor?
 

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Ok, fwiw the silent dictatorship never overthrew the Kaiser or Reichstag, they centrally coordinated the powers given to Corps area commanders under the 1851 Prussian siege law.
 
Ludendorff Wakes: The Great War
A Great Gamble

By 1917, the Great War was entering its height. The Central Powers still stood strong, despite the allied attempts to break trough back in 1916 with the Somme, Verdun, Gallipoli, and Brusilov offensives but they only had minimal successes. Also in the start of 1917, the Germans had to make a huge decision. The winter of 1916 was quite harsh for the German populous, with the British blockade successfully keeping any goods from entering German ports. Among civilians, hunger and rampant and was known as the "Turnip Winter". To open up the North Sea to German convoys and to also wreak havoc on British convoys and trade, the Germans decided to deploy unrestricted submarine warfare again in February 1917 on Ludendorff's orders.

Last time the Germans deployed USW back in 1915, they sank the Lusitania, which killed 2,000 men, women, and children. It also took the lives of nearly 200 Americans, which enraged United States and threatened war if the Germans put on with USW. The Germans complied and brought an end to USW to avoid American entry into war. Fortunate for the Germans, the Congress and President Wilson were against American participation of war in Europe at that time. Now, it was 1917 and the Germans were getting desperate. The High Command knew that the populous couldn't tolerate another Turnip Winter in 1918 and they had to take gambles.

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A painting depicting German sailors looking at a sinking allied vessel, circa 1917

When the British heard that the Germans were going to resume USW, the British leadership were in a hurried panic. They feared that such a sudden switch to USW would wreak havoc on the British economy and their access to resources throughout 1917. In a board room meeting among the top heads of the British wartime cabinet, the admirals of the Royal Navy convinced the war cabinet that the British should not enact a convoy system for the next several months, advocating that immediate implementation of the convoys would cost the British their convoy fleet. The wartime cabinet decided to align with the Royal Navy.

The plan was that the British would "stall" in the war for a little while, hoarding resources and manpower at home to keep safe from the U-Boat menace. This sparked a crisis in the allied war effort, despite America joining the war on the side of the allies on July 1917 over the U-Boast crossing into Atlantic waters attacking American vessels and their entry being a major morale booster, the Americans never really fully dedicated men to the front lines. The American were more focused on building up their navy to combat the German U-Boats, send goods to Britain, and participate in the blockade.

Big Trouble in Little Russia

Meanwhile in Russia, the war was turning out to be a major flop, and the general consensus among the Russians were STOP THE MADNESS! The Russians already forced Nicky to call it quits back in April 1917 and a new provisional government took charge. The Russians rejoiced at first, thinking that the new government would be better than the years of disaster under Nicky since 1914. The Germans took notice of this and reached out to revolutionaries, such as Lenin's Bolsheviks, in exile in Switzerland. Organized by other communists, Lenin took a train ride to Petrograd trough Germany, into Denmark, ferried into Sweden, another train ride across Sweden and Finland, and finally arriving in Petrograd on April 16, 1917 at the Finland Station, Petrograd among the zeal of a crowd.

In July 1917, the Russians launched the "Kerensky Offensive" in Austrian Galicia and German held Poland. Despite retaking land back and marching back into Austrian Galicia, it would be the last Russian offensive in the First Great War. The offensive would eventually be repulsed by the Germans and Austrians, driving the Russians from Austrian Galicia for the last time. The offensive was a disaster was the military was a disorganized mess by then, with soldiers simply deserting and returning back to home without orders. The provisional government lost popularity among the Russian populous and the Soviets saw their power increase, especially in Petrograd.

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Russian crowds rejoice on the arrival of Lenin at the Finland Station, circa 1917

On July 16, 1917, the Soviets of Petrograd launch a series of spontaneous armed anti-government protests of workers and soldiers. Lvov resigned as leader of the provisional government over this and Kerensky took charge. Keresnky crushed the demonstrations and forced Lenin back into hiding, who backed the Soviets. Keresnky's new government implemented more reforms, such as granting women the right to vote and hold office but also enforced new dictatorial measure, such as bringing back the death penalty. Despite the Soviets losing their control, they still were popular among the Russian who began to despite the provisional government.

To make matter worse, Kornilov attempted to overthrow Keresnky in September 9, 1917 to suppress the Soviets once and for all. The coup attempt would only weaken the provisional government further, Kerensky also formally abolished the provisional government and proclaimed Russia as a republic. Taking advantage of the chaos, the Germans captured Riga in September 1917 and the Estonian Islands of Saaremaa and Hiiumma. On November 7, the Bolsheviks had enough power and support to launch a coup against the Russian government in Petrograd. Led by Leon Trotsky, the Bolshevik Red Guards stormed the Winter Palace in which Kerensky's Russian government convened at. The coup is a success and despite Kerensky trying to do a last stand counter-revolution, it was too late. Pro-Bolshevik rebellions occurred all across Russia and by the end of November, the Russian cities of Petrograd and Moscow were in Bolshevik hands and the Russian Republic plunged into anarchy.

The Yanks are (not) Coming

The resumption of USW for America was quite a shock, knowing that the Germans might try to sink American vessels but Congress and President Wilson were still not convinced to commit land troops to Europe, with many American families not liking the ideas of their boys dying for some "European affairs". In April 1917, President Wilson and the Congress passed the Naval Buildup Act, which allowed large sums of money to be invested into the navy to defend American vessels from German U-Boat attacks and also to ward off U-Boats in the West Atlantic. The American public approved of this act, most Americans were okay to defend American vessels against U-Boat raids but not sending trooped to fight in Europe. The Germans knew that the Americans would have to intervene sooner or later due to their resumption of USW but their main strategy was to keep the Americans bottled up in the Atlantic and try not to call America's bluff and make them send troops to France. Despite some mad ideas like having Mexico invade the Southwestern United States within the German leadership, the Germans kept their cool.

In September 1917, Congress approved of an undeclared naval war against U-Boats in the West Alantic and approved minor economic sanctions against the Germans over their continued strategy of USW. The Germans were posing threats in the West Atlantic and the Americans were focused to protecting American shipping from U-Boats rather than a real commitment to the war. Although technically at war with the Germans, the Americans never formally declared war on the Germans, with intervention still unpopular among the public. This decisions was heavily controversial among Americans, with many wanting to help the Entente and get revenge for German's aggression in the West Atlantic but the current president in charge and Congress held power and wanted not to go to war.

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President Wilson formally declares a "naval war" against the Germans, circa 1917

As for the allies in the rest of Europe, the situation looked no better. In the Italian Front, the Austro-Hungarians, supported by German troops, broke trough Italian lines along the Isonzo River. The Austro-Germans attackers used a combination of new stormtrooper tactics and poison gas to defeat the Italians. The Italians were badly defeated and were forced to retreat nearly 100 km, leaving much of Veneto under Austrian occupation. The Italians suffered nearly 300,000 casualties and 250,000 prisoners captured, along with all of their artillery. This was a major morale blow for the Italian war effort and from this point on, it would only get worse for Italy.

In the East, as Russia collapsed to a Bolshevik insurrection, the Romanians were left any protectors to defend from the Austro-Hungarians and Germans. With no other choice, the Romanians gave up and were forced to make an armistice with Austria-Hungary in the town of Focşani on December 1917. The allied war effort in the East was essentially collapsed and won by the Central Powers, now the Central Powers would focus their attention West to finally gain their ultimate victory.

Holding the Line

On February 21, 1917, the Germans began to strategically withdraw to the Hindenburg Line. This decision was enacted by the dual command of Ludendorff and Hindenburg who already had total power over Germany by this point. They proposed that the Germans to strategically withdraw to the Hindenburg Line, stretching from Artois to Aisne and to construct a heavily fortified line of defense. Called Operation Alberich, it took five weeks to complete and the Germans withdrew. The Germans also sabotaged and destroyed surrounding infrastructure in the process to prevent the allies from using it.

The French also carried out several offensives. Several battles ensued throughout 1917. The French offensives took place, the Second Battle of Aisne occurred from April 16 to May 9 1917 and also the Third Battle of Champagne from from April 17 to April 20 1917. As for the British, they participated in the attack on German lines in the trenches made them only take a defense position. The British promised that they will supply new recruits from the dominions and volunteers from America to help out. The French offensives ultimately failed and morale plummeted. Some mutinies took place but were mostly under control in protest of the terrible casualties inflicted on the failed offensives. New reforms were also declared and there was less emphasis placed on offensive warfare, buying time to continue the war without a dissenting army.

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Empty German trenches captured by an allied spy plane during Operation Alberich, circa 1917

The Brits also started to deploy the new "tank"deployed to be used in battle. This occurred in the Battle of Cambrai from November 20 to December 7 1917. The British launched a surprise attack against German positions using tanks, in which the Germans were unfamiliar with. The British did gain the advantage at first, but a German counter offensive on November 30 pushed the Brits back where they started. Despite the battle being a loss for the British, it was the first battle to use tanks in a massive assault, in which the Germans would catch on by 1918.

In July of 1917, the allies also launch an attack on the German held area to Ypres, Belgium. The Battle of Passchendaele lasted from July 31 1917 to November 10 1917 would prove to be one of the mostly costly in casualties since the Battle of the Somme, with both sides losing 700,000 men. In the end of the battle, the allies emerged victorious and recaptured Passchendaele. Many historians would point out that the Battle of Passchendhendaele would prove to be the last real allied offensive in the Great War and the allied would be on the defense from now on.
 
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Ähem A germany that annexes Belgium Has won a total victory as in having tacken France and the rest out of that fight and most of english forces the British would never accept germans owning the channel coast down to calais if there is any form of manpower and ships left they would throw that at German lines bevor giving that up.
 
Ludendorff Wakes: The Fall of the Allies
Victory in the East

After the Bolshevik Red Guards seized control of Petrograd in November, the Bolsheviks expanded their control all across Russia, taking Moscow days after they took over Petrograd. By December 1917, most of Russia were under Lenin's control with the exception of some stubborn resistance by some Russian divisions. As Lenin promised to the Germans, the Central Powers and Russia formally signed the armistice of Brest-Litovsk on December 15, 1917, taking Russia de facto out of the First Great War. The delegates of the Central Powers and Soviet Russia also began talks of a peace treaty that will fully take Russia out of the war. Talks began in January 1918 in Brest-Litovsk for a peace treaty to be signed in exchange for Russia to end war against the Central Powers.

At first, the delegation led by Trotsky delayed on the peace talks, thinking that the German proletariat would soon rise up in revolution and it was important to try to hold onto the Ukraine and Baltic countries to support their comrades in arms. After months of debate, the Soviet and Central Power delegation reached no decision at first, so the Germans launched Operation Faustschlag on February 18, 1918. The operation saw German troops rapidly conquered Belarus and the Baltic states while German troops marched into Kiev. Due to the Russian armies deserting from their trenches, all of them were empty by the time the Germans advanced.

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German troops in Kiev, March 1918

As Operation Fautschlag went on, Trotsky returned to Petrograd, with most of the leadership preferring to continue the war, despite their army being non-existent. Lenin intervened and pushed Trotsky to accept the German terms, even though they had become even harsher. With other communists supporting Lenin, he received enough votes in the ruling council to approve accepting terms. The Bolsheviks capitulated on March 3 and agreed to sign the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. The treaty also marked Russia's final withdrawal in the First Great War. The terms were that Russia were to cede the Baltic States to Germany, allowed German occupation of Belarus, cedes Transcaucasia to the Ottomans, and recognized Ukraine and Finland as independent states. Later in August 1918, the Soviets and Germans also agreed that the Soviets would use the liquidated Tsarist assets to pay Germany in reparations.

With the war against Russia now brought to an end, it helped free up a lot of combat ready German troops to be sent West to fight in Greece, Italy, and most importantly, France. Also, with much of Russia's food supply, industrial base, and fuel supplies, it greatly boosted the German war effort and morale, although most would have to be fixed due to damage from the First Great War. As for the Bolsheviks, things went worse for them. The Brest-Litovsk Treaty proved to be very unpopular among the Russian army generals formerly under the republican government. On May 1918, the Bolsheviks lost control of Siberia when the Czechoslovak legion revolted and the British also landed expeditionary forces in Murmansk, starting the Russian Civil War.

All Sick on the Western Front

When 1918 began, the British sent fresh recruits into France to help staff the trenches. The British got more reinforcements from the dominions, especially Canada. The British knew that the French needed more man in the trenches than ever since the collapse of Russia in the East, which would bring more German reinforcements West. Despite having more manpower was a good thing for the French, a new notorious flu was also carried by the Canadians, the "American Flu" as it was called. The dirty, cold, muddy, and crowded trenches of the Western Front proved to be ripe for the pickings for a outbreak to occur.

The American Flu outbreaks proved to be notorious because it main victim wasn't the elderly or the youth, it greatly affected young healthy boys in the trenches. From the end of 1917 to summer 1918, it was mostly prevalent in allied trenches in the Western Front. By mid-1918, the American Flu had claimed nearly thousands of soldiers of the allies after it had ravaged trough established allied positions throughout the battlefields of Europe. The American Flu would greatly hinder the allied war effort in the First Great War to Germany's favor due to German troops not being as affected as allied troops.

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British troops affected by the American Flu in a hospital, circa July 1918

The American Flu didn't only affect the soldiers in the trenches, it also spread to civilians in France and Italy. Most European were already on rations due to most resources dedicated to the war effort due to the principle of total war, so most were weak and unable to be strong enough to fight off the disease. The American Flu would also spread to Italy and France and their soldiers. Most of the infrastructure of these countries were further overwhelmed to accommodate the masses of civilians who were affected by the American Flu. This would affect their economies potential to contribute to "total war".

Showdown at Piave

The Italian military situation was in a precarious status ever since the great humiliation at the Isonzo during the Battle of Caporetto. The Austrians were already pretty deep in Italian territory in Veneto and the Italians were longer on the offensive anymore and took the defensive from now on. Despite, the Italians front remained quite from Caporetto in November 1917 to June 1918. This changed on June 15, 1918, the Austrian artillery released a barrage of shells against Italian positions on the Piave River, starting the Second Battle of the Piave River. The Austrians managed to push forward, crossing the Piave River despite the rain hindering transportation. The Austrians also attacked in the Alps at Mt. Grappa and managed to push the Italians back, despite having Franco-British reinforcements, although minor.

The Austrians managed to cross the Piave River despite flooding from rains. The Italians tactically retreated and regrouped, stopping the Austrians advance any further. This strategy worked and the Austrians, already exhausted from fighting fierce Italian resistance and an early Italian artillery barrage during the opening days of the war. To keep the land they conquered, the Austrians dug in and fortified their positions from Italian attacks. By June 25, 1918, the Battle of the Second Piave had resulted in an Austrian victory, but for the Italians, at least it wasn't another Caporetto.

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Austrian troops cross the Piave River, circa June 1918

The Kaiserschlacht Begins

After the German victory in the East against Russia, the Germans now directed their attention towards finally knocking out France of the war. By the time the war in Russia was concluding, the German High Command were planning for an offensive in France on Spring 1918. The so called "Kaiser's Battle", of Operation Michel started on March 1918 under Quatermaster-General Ludendorff. The objective was to drive the British from the Somme and the French from the Seine, marching to Paris and placing the city at threat of a siege. Now, instead of a two front war Germany struggled with from 1914 to 1917, it was now a one front war and Germany dedicated all of it's resources from the East to the West.

The Germans used new land doctrines to fight the allied positions. In the start of 1918, the Germans developed the A7V, the German's first tank to be used in battle and planned to use stormtruppers on mass to break allied lines. For the allied side, they were in no real positions to fight off such a large offensive. The British thought that the Germans would attack in Flanders and concentrated most of their troops in the region. Even though the allied positions were reinforced by commonwealth troops, they were not strong enough to face a full frontal attack by the Germans. The French also moved troops to the East to defend the region in the case of an attack, which would never come. Essentially, from the Somme if Seine, the front was left not too well defended.

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German A7V tanks advance though a French town, June 1918

The Germans launched Operation Micheal against the British in the Somme and the Aisne Offensive against the French. The Germans took the initiative and bombarded the allied positions in a massive artillery attack. The Germans then launched an air attack on British air fields. German stormtruppers, equipped with the best mobile weapons, launch the land offensive. The main strategy was to move at rapidly as possible and race onto Paris. The Germans smashed trough British lines at the Somme on March 1918. The Germans achieved rapid progress on the Somme front but Ludendorff wanted to focus on the Seine. German reinforcements were sent to fight the already exhausted French troops at the Seine. The Germans launched the Lys Offensive in Belgium, capturing some of Flanders from British control.

The Germans eventually had to stop the offensives in the Somme and Aisne due to supply lines unable to keep up with the rapidly advancing German troops and the German troops being exhausted in keeping up with the pace of the advance. The Germans decided to settle down and hold what that captured to prevent themselves from being vulnerable to an allies counterattack. By June 1918, the Germans ended the Somme and Aisne offensives with large gains and a new sense of enthusiasm for the German's morale on the Western Front.
 
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