Lucrezia Borgia marries an English Prince?

So, this is one thing I've been pondering as of late.

Lucrezia Borgia was born in 1480, and was recognised as the daughter of Pope Alexander, she made a fair few illustrious marriages that benefited her family a lot. What I am wondering is this, say in a timeline where either the Plantagenets survive or what have you, would her father ever consider offering her to an English Prince, and would such a marriage go through? If it did, what benefits would it bring to either side?
 
So, this is one thing I've been pondering as of late.

Lucrezia Borgia was born in 1480, and was recognised as the daughter of Pope Alexander, she made a fair few illustrious marriages that benefited her family a lot. What I am wondering is this, say in a timeline where either the Plantagenets survive or what have you, would her father ever consider offering her to an English Prince, and would such a marriage go through? If it did, what benefits would it bring to either side?
Maybe a relative of the Archbishop of Canterbury, who had been promoted Cardinal?
 
What about Edward Plantagenet, 17th Earl of Warwick?

He is five years older then Borgia, is the son of George Plantagenet, 1st Duke of Clarence and Isabel Neville, Duchess of Clarence.

With Pope Alexander as a father in law, would Edward have a better claim to the throne then Henry VII and would his line become the catholic line of the throne if Henry VIII was to split.
 
What about Edward Plantagenet, 17th Earl of Warwick?

He is five years older then Borgia, is the son of George Plantagenet, 1st Duke of Clarence and Isabel Neville, Duchess of Clarence.

With Pope Alexander as a father in law, would Edward have a better claim to the throne then Henry VII and would his line become the catholic line of the throne if Henry VIII was to split.

On now that would definitely be interesting. Would Edward need to flee to Italy, in order for the marriage to work?
 
On now that would definitely be interesting. Would Edward need to flee to Italy, in order for the marriage to work?
He could or just travel to France and marry over there, this would allow him to rally a force of loyal Catholics.
 
He could or just travel to France and marry over there, this would allow him to rally a force of loyal Catholics.

This is very true, I do imagine such a marriage would take place in the late 1490s then, and would add weight behind his cause especially in England, with the Pope backing him instead of Tudor.
 
Ugh, you tempt me too much.
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Also, this would probably give HUGE credibility to the Borgia's on a feudal/secular scale. Could give Cesare himself more success in his conquests and maybe more options for political marriages.

England wouldn't really get much out of it. Just another European rich noble dynasty. No big advantages. Might make them Catholic if they have increased connections to the Pope though...
 
Ugh, you tempt me too much.
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Also, this would probably give HUGE credibility to the Borgia's on a feudal/secular scale. Could give Cesare himself more success and maybe more options for political marriages.

You've won the internet for today Sir.

Also, very interesting. Would Alexander be very willing to go ahead with the marriage then? That might sound like a stupid question, but I do imagine it could suit his goals. Just need to think how Edward could get out of England before Henry throws him behind bars.
 
You've won the internet for today Sir.

Also, very interesting. Would Alexander be very willing to go ahead with the marriage then? That might sound like a stupid question, but I do imagine it could suit his goals. Just need to think how Edward could get out of England before Henry throws him behind bars.

Sorry, but that meme is from my Timeline about Cesare. I have to use it when I get the chance!

Also yes. Alexander would be happy to expand his influence, especially if he got the dynasty of England.
 
Sorry, but that meme is from my Timeline about Cesare. I have to use it when I get the chance!

Also yes. Alexander would be happy to expand his influence, especially if he got the dynasty of England.

No need to apologise mate, that meme is golden. Imagine how big his head would get if he helped put Edward on the throne?!

Alright class, so then, Edward, Earl of Warwick likely has to flee England before things go southwards for old uncle Richard, unless, before Henry reaches London, someone breaks him out?
 
No need to apologise mate, that meme is golden. Imagine how big his head would get if he helped put Edward on the throne?!

Alright class, so then, Edward, Earl of Warwick likely has to flee England before things go southwards for old uncle Richard, unless, before Henry reaches London, someone breaks him out?

Yep.

Probably. That ain't a good sign if he rejects their ideas of marriage for the Borgia.
 
Yep.

Probably. That ain't a good sign if he rejects their ideas of marriage for the Borgia.

AHa aye.

And alright class. Hmm, now, I wonder, who should get the marriage here Ned, Earl of Warwick, or his cousin Ned, Earl of Salisbury. A healthier born Ned of Middleham does interest me, and I believe they were roughly the same age. But ahh, possibilities.
 
AHa aye.

And alright class. Hmm, now, I wonder, who should get the marriage here Ned, Earl of Warwick, or his cousin Ned, Earl of Salisbury. A healthier born Ned of Middleham does interest me, and I believe they were roughly the same age. But ahh, possibilities.

I lost sight of those words. Not sure on them. All I know is basic Borgia knowledge. Despite being English.
 
I lost sight of those words. Not sure on them. All I know is basic Borgia knowledge. Despite being English.

Aha, not to worry.

Essentially, I need to decide who I want marrying old Lu.

Richard III's son Edward of Middleham-a slightly healthier version of him- or George, Duke of Clarence's kid Edward, Earl of Warwick.
 
So, a query for you all, which Plantagenet Prince should ole Lucrezia marry? Edward of Middleham, or Edward, Earl of Warwick
 
So, a query for you all, which Plantagenet Prince should ole Lucrezia marry? Edward of Middleham, or Edward, Earl of Warwick

Obviously he's a blank slate and you can do whatever you want with him personality wise, but mightn't an Edward of Middleham who has experienced 2-years as Prince of Wales be too full of himself to marry a "lowly" (and illegitimate) Borgia? Or would the promise of Papal gold and support mean he can ignore that?
 
Obviously he's a blank slate and you can do whatever you want with him personality wise, but mightn't an Edward of Middleham who has experienced 2-years as Prince of Wales be too full of himself to marry a "lowly" (and illegitimate) Borgia? Or would the promise of Papal gold and support mean he can ignore that?
That's very true. I guess for him it'd be a case of papal support potentially winning the day no?
 
Though the more I think about it the more poetic it seems if Edward earl of Warwick marries Borgia and unseats Henry vii
 
Though the more I think about it the more poetic it seems if Edward earl of Warwick marries Borgia and unseats Henry vii

Though for him to have any chance of success you'd probably have to reject the idea that he was simpleminded (not that I ever agreed with that- if you've been imprisoned since you were 10 and denied education and even basic human contact then of course you won't be able to tell the difference between a goose and a capon).
 
Though for him to have any chance of success you'd probably have to reject the idea that he was simpleminded (not that I ever agreed with that- if you've been imprisoned since you were 10 and denied education and even basic human contact then of course you won't be able to tell the difference between a goose and a capon).

Oh definitely, the main concern I have with him, is how does he get out and get to France/Italy? Does he do it through aid from former associates of his uncle, who despise Tudor? If so, what stops him being used as a French puppet? The power of Rome?
 
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