Okay. I just want to check, is it part of the new 'Germany' thing? Is Bohemia? Also, should it be drawn as HRE like, or more united? Also, should the Nordics be shown as more or less united?
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Ill just drop this here so we are on the same page about the Kingdoms that make up *Germany.
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Depends when you're trying to show--as I said above, the thing about these maps is that they don't really show a consistent year. Germany should be shown as one country from 1859 onwards, and how you currently show it for c. 1854-1859. The Nordics should still be shown as a united state because although the separate kingdoms are technically restored they are treated as viceroyalties.
Netherland colonies in exile who refuse to recognize the United Kingdom of Belgium!
All of them are sovereign states with no unity between them to speak of. I remember the guy running South Africa wanted some sort of alliance but the rivalries and personal egos among the companies prevented that.
-Added new borders in the former Sultanate
-Added the Russian enclave in Finland
-Unified Germany farther
-Modified the Belgian-German border to reflect the changes following the Unification War
-Changed Brazil's status to reflect the new realities (but overseas Brazilian posessions will need to be identified - not sure which ones stay under Portugese control and which ones also fall under UPSA influence).
-Adjusted the borders changed due to the apparent Lithuanian and Russian land grab during the Polish Civil War
-Added the Russian enclave in Finland
-Unified Germany farther
-Modified the Belgian-German border to reflect the changes following the Unification War
-Changed Brazil's status to reflect the new realities (but overseas Brazilian posessions will need to be identified - not sure which ones stay under Portugese control and which ones also fall under UPSA influence).
-Adjusted the borders changed due to the apparent Lithuanian and Russian land grab during the Polish Civil War
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Thande
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Excellent work! I can't tell on that scale but did you adjust the borders of Algiers to reflect the encroachment by Morocco and Neapolitan Tunis? (Though it's largely notional at this point anyway).
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I am emphasising the union on my own map (it's meant to be a semi-realistic attempt to portray what actual in-timeline maps would look like--as in just referring to Germany as "Germany" and not as the Empire of or the Republic of, etc.), you can do what you want on these world maps.
So we seem to be left with:
-Giving Brazil, and the colonies under UPSA influence the UPSA color with a Brazil outline if I understand the UCS notation correctly,
-Portugal's outline?
-Algiers (insofar as those changes can be mapped),
-India (I don't know enough of its geography to adjust that)
-(anything else?)
-Giving Brazil, and the colonies under UPSA influence the UPSA color with a Brazil outline if I understand the UCS notation correctly,
-Portugal's outline?
-Algiers (insofar as those changes can be mapped),
-India (I don't know enough of its geography to adjust that)
-(anything else?)
Thande
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India is a bit vague at the moment, much of it would have to be represented as 'conflict zone' or something probably--I will have a think. Brazil proper needs a pale green outline (or whatever colour we are using). As for the colonies, the ones that go with Brazil are Angola and Mozambique (but carve a bit out of the top of Angola conquered by blue Congo) and East Timor, with the Portuguese influence in Mataram (on Java) replaced by UPSA influence. Leave Portuguese India as it is for now.
Also I think this is still missing Taiwan becoming the Republic of Formosa with the removal of the colonial partition lines.
Can we stick place holder warlords in the Confederacy?
Should all of those have UPSA influence, or just Mataram?
Ah, I wanted to do outlines within outlines to show that in theory it was defacto Brazilian, but was in fact defacto French. I like extra colours sometimes (though French Blue and Brazilian Green don't mix very well...).
That' been done, I just striped it with influence. Is that correct?
Thande
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You can if you want.
All the native states previously subject to Portuguese influence.
Alright, if you really want to
Well, it's more under generic 'foreign' influence from jockeying trading companies, so I'd just leave it white.
Russia seems to be doing worse than OTL vs the Kazakhs: OTL they had a foothold on the Aral by 1847. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea#History
(1850 OTL)
(1850 OTL)
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Last I mentioned the Kazakhs in detail in TTL they were united from within by Jangir Khan and in a stronger position than OTL, but then I hinted at a civil war where the Russians would gain more influence in the aftermath--I don't think that strand of the TL is updated to the 1850s yet.