LORAG but for the Americas?

[danteheadman]

Are there any TLs that give Native Americans the Lands of Red and Gold treatment? Specifically, a TL that starts from the POD "the Americas had more domesticatable animals," in the same way that LORAG started with "Australia had a founder crop and could develop agricultural societies"?

Ideally this TL would have more developed Native societies and at least one "Americapox" to make European colonialism less successful.

 

[Polish Eagle]

Peccary Rex, Equus Regina comes to mind. American horses survive and are domesticated, leading to thriving !AmerInd societies.

 

[theg*ddam*hoi2fan]

Are there any TLs that give Native Americans the Lands of Red and Gold treatment? Specifically, a TL that starts from the POD "the Americas had more domesticatable animals," in the same way that LORAG started with "Australia had a founder crop and could develop agricultural societies"?

Ideally this TL would have more developed Native societies and at least one "Americapox" to make European colonialism less successful.

Maybe not quite what you're looking for, but there's this one: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-horse-and-the-jaguar.316213/

A Mongol fleet ends up in the Americas, and as a result of this, by the time Columbus gets there the Maya and the Inca have cannon and a chunk of North America is ruled by Mongol Hordes who're more ethnically Native American than Mongol but have adopted Mongol customs etc.

 

[Ian Henderson]

There's Land of Ice and Mice

Lands of Ice and Mice: An Alternate History of the Thule

The Lands of Ice and Mice A Scientific Romance by Guy Deschamps and DValdron With thanks to the good folks of AH.com for their always lovely ideas and especially to Jared for his wonderful timeline, Lands of Red and Gold Part One: In Which An Emperor Is Crowned Issorartuyok, Hey...

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A Horn of Bronze

A Horn of Bronze--The Shaping of Fusania and Beyond

-Prologue- Eishou-ji (永勝寺), Ishikari Province, 1498 Is this where he lives, Jikken (実顕) thought to himself. The finest and most learned of the Soui [1] is here. Jikken strode the wooden corridors of the temple of Eishouji, glancing eagerly for a sight of him. He had to remind himself he was a...

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Land of Sweetness

Land of Sweetness: A Pre-Columbian Timeline

Here goes nothing. ***** The night was deep on Guanahani Island, and the world was asleep. The heavens were black, the stars and the half-moon’s steady light alone illuminating the rows of ripening maize and drying fish. Even the parrots were quiet. Only the whistles of the hutias and the...

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[danteheadman]

Thank you!!!

 

[Arkenfolm]

From Blight We Rise

From Blight we Rise

From Blight we Rise I give you Apios Americana, this legume grows a potato-like tuber and produces edible seeds; it grows in an abundance across eastern North America; from as far north as Nova Scotia to as far south as Florida. It was never domesticated and cultivated by cultures who had...

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Lands of Bronze and Fire

Lands of Bronze and Fire - An American Domestication Timeline, Take Two

Northern *New Mexico, ca. 10,500 BCE The chorus of whistling birds filled the early morning with joyous sound, masking the footfalls of the hunter as he trod gingerly through the scrub grasses. Out into the scrubland he had dashed, following the familiar traces until he'd come nearly within...

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Land of Salmon and Totems

Land of Salmon and Totems 2.0

So I have decided that I want and need to come at a Willamette River Civilization for the Pacific Northwest once again and from a different, more realistic beginning POD. I'll keep elements of the previous TL but I want to diverge and see where this one can be taken, so I present to you: Land...

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There's also earlier and less complete versions of these TLs here. Peccary Rex, Equus Regina also has other versions.

There's Land of Ice and Mice

Lands of Ice and Mice: An Alternate History of the Thule

The Lands of Ice and Mice A Scientific Romance by Guy Deschamps and DValdron With thanks to the good folks of AH.com for their always lovely ideas and especially to Jared for his wonderful timeline, Lands of Red and Gold Part One: In Which An Emperor Is Crowned Issorartuyok, Hey...

www.alternatehistory.com

A Horn of Bronze

A Horn of Bronze--The Shaping of Fusania and Beyond

-Prologue- Eishou-ji (永勝寺), Ishikari Province, 1498 Is this where he lives, Jikken (実顕) thought to himself. The finest and most learned of the Soui [1] is here. Jikken strode the wooden corridors of the temple of Eishouji, glancing eagerly for a sight of him. He had to remind himself he was a...

www.alternatehistory.com

Land of Sweetness

Land of Sweetness: A Pre-Columbian Timeline

Here goes nothing. ***** The night was deep on Guanahani Island, and the world was asleep. The heavens were black, the stars and the half-moon’s steady light alone illuminating the rows of ripening maize and drying fish. Even the parrots were quiet. Only the whistles of the hutias and the...

www.alternatehistory.com

Land of Sweetness isn't really a LORAG-style TL, it's basically "WI sailing tech spread in Mesoamerica and the Caribbean". It's also probably my favorite pre-Columbian TL here.

 

[UnaiB]

Are there any TLs that give Native Americans the Lands of Red and Gold treatment? Specifically, a TL that starts from the POD "the Americas had more domesticatable animals," in the same way that LORAG started with "Australia had a founder crop and could develop agricultural societies"?

Ideally this TL would have more developed Native societies and at least one "Americapox" to make European colonialism less successful.

@Alexander Helios

 

[Alexander Helios]

@Alexander Helios

Thanks for the mention, and I'm very flattered for the LoRaG comparison.

Yeah, Upon the Waters (POD being the rise and domestication of a brand new species of wild rice, and spirals from there, it will fit the OP bill but spoilers), on a bit of a hiatus (I'm revamping it cause I have a much cooler direction I want to head into, same premise), but there are like a few chapters I ended up putting out.

It's still my main project, though I haven't been too active on here lately, and I have most of my public discussion about it on Discord nowadays.

 

[danteheadman]

Thanks for the mention, and I'm very flattered for the LoRaG comparison.

Yeah, Upon the Waters (POD being the rise and domestication of a brand new species of wild rice, and spirals from there, it will fit the OP bill but spoilers), on a bit of a hiatus (I'm revamping it cause I have a much cooler direction I want to head into, same premise), but there are like a few chapters I ended up putting out.

It's still my main project, though I haven't been too active on here lately, and I have most of my public discussion about it on Discord nowadays.

Sounds exactly like what I'm looking to read. Good luck with it!