Looking for info on the Italian houses of Doria and Morosini

A random request I know, but I need this for Apollinis et Dianae. For those who aren't aware of them, the Doria and Morosini families were influential nobles in Genoa and Venice, respectively. Basically I'm looking for important members of these families in the 1680s. For the Morosini all I can find is Doge Francesco Morosini, but according to the Italian Wikipedia he had a brother that had children (a male line descendent is mentioned in the 1800s) but I can't find more then that. And its the same for the Dorias. I can find info about famous members of that House, but not much more. So any info that you guys can tell me would be a HUGE help for me.
 
And speaking of prominent families, Spinolas there make much more sense than Dorias. There were TWO Spinola doges in Genoa in 1680-1699 interval. And the only Doria claim to fame in this period is being in-laws to Prince of Monaco.
But the thing is that the closest male heir of Doge Luca Spinola is either Princely house of Monaco or said Ambrose Doria.
 
And speaking of prominent families, Spinolas there make much more sense than Dorias. There were TWO Spinola doges in Genoa in 1680-1699 interval. And the only Doria claim to fame in this period is being in-laws to Prince of Monaco.
But the thing is that the closest male heir of Doge Luca Spinola is either Princely house of Monaco or said Ambrose Doria.

The only reason I went with the Doria was because I new they were an influential Genoan House and had a special relationship with the Spanish Monarchy. I had honestly forgotten about the Spinola family. But it seems that Ambrose Doria would be the best bet. But what about Andrea II Doria? He was the son of Giovanni Andrea Doria, adopted heir of the famous Admiral. According to the Italian Wikipedia he married Maria Landi, Princess of Val di Taro, and founded the Doria-Landi line. So it seems to me that the Doria-Landi would be the richest branch of the family, and its head (probably Andrea II's son or grandson) would be the most likely candidate for Duke of Tripoli.

http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia...e2-8c38-00271042e8d9_(Dizionario-Biografico)/
As for Morosini worth his s*it in this time period I'm afraid we'll have to settle on this guy (second cousin to Doge unless I miscalculated).

And your right. From what I read Giovan Francesco seems to be the best choice for Duke/Prince of Benghazi. He was loyal, competent, diplomatically trained and was fairly long-lived. Its a shame he's a distant relation, but it'll do.
 
http://gw.geneanet.org/favrejhas?lang=it;p=andrea;n=doria
That conflicts with this genealogy of Andrea Doria, which says he left no male heirs.

Hm, very strange. Here's what I found http://translate.googleusercontent..../Doria&usg=ALkJrhji8mnqFzBgDWS5ofi91cEesI4icw and
http://translate.googleusercontent....mphili&usg=ALkJrhhsWHtszqW5aW9UmXuNMHbxTljGZA. Neither actually say Andrea II Doria but John II Andrea Doria or Giovanni Andrea Doria II. So all three might be the same person, just with different recorded names (considering how many names people tended to have I wouldn't be surprised.) Any way whichever the right name is married Maria Landi Polyxena , Princess of Valditaro and created the Doria-Landi line. And according to the page on Giovanni Andrea Doria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Andrea_Doria) he had two sons, both of whom had issue. Now I'm assuming that sense the Doria-Landi line held the Prince of Melfi title, which the heirs of Andrea Doria held, Andrea II Doria's son is the one who married the Landi heiress. Or the title eventually passed to that line. Honestly it could be either one.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Doria
This is the one who's omitted in the genealogy I found.

Yeah I found him as well, but his article doesn't mention anything about marriage or children one way or the other. Sense he wasn't listed on the genealogy you found I wasn't sure if it was the same person (Andrea II I mean) or not. What we really need is a copy of the Almanach de Gotha. It has records of all of the reigning, non reigning (mediatized) and ranking noble dynasties. It should have records of the Dorias and perhaps the Morosini. I'll hunt around and see if any of it is online. One of the pre 1945 ones would probably be the best, sense its before the Soviets burned a lot of the records.
 
Anyways, we don't need to go to THOSE lengths, I think. We got a bit of baseline guys, and we can work up from there unhindered. I think that the thing who gets to be the lord of Tripoli depends on which Great Power provides the backing. The French would like a son-in-law to Princess of Monaco, while Spanish would like a Spinola.
 
Anyways, we don't need to go to THOSE lengths, I think. We got a bit of baseline guys, and we can work up from there unhindered. I think that the thing who gets to be the lord of Tripoli depends on which Great Power provides the backing. The French would like a son-in-law to Princess of Monaco, while Spanish would like a Spinola.

I'm still not sure. Considering how many Dorias served Spain as Generals and Admirals, not to mention the fact that the Dorias held lands in Naples and Spain, I think that they would be the Spanish candidate. Plus I imagine that a Spinola Doge enthroning a close relative might cause some issues in Genoa. The Genoese has much more limits on the Doge's power then the Venetians did. And personally I would love to have a copy of the Almanach de Gotha just for myself. But I think a lot of the old ones are online so it can't hurt for me to at least take a look at the noble sections.
 
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