Look to the West Volume X: Eclipse of Empires
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Not relevant to the current volume (about 55 years out of date!), but on the side I've been sporadically working on some simple North America maps to show territorial evolution throughout the 20th century. I included an 1896 one with the published version of Volume VI, and now I've updated to 1901 for Volume VII when we get around to publishing that.
I probably need to come up with a better way of doing convincing vertical longitude derived borders rather than just eyeballing it.
I probably need to come up with a better way of doing convincing vertical longitude derived borders rather than just eyeballing it.
Whilst that probably applies to Thande himself, the name originally comes from a medieval English poem:
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Seems,like the tl is going on a path like otlwith only difference in details.
Eg:
War of Austrian Succession: Otl.
7 yrs war: Otl.
French Revolution: Otl.
War of Three Emperors: Taiping Rebellion.
Popular Wars: Revolutions of 1848.
Great Jihad: Sepoy Mutiny
Great American War: American Civil War.
German and Italian Unification: Otl.
Pandoric War:WW1
20s Plague: Spanish Flu
Romulan Italy: Fascist Italy.
Howmuch of is it deliberate and how much of it is due to French revolution spreading liberal ideas and nationalism,like otl.
Would you add the French Revolution if began it now?
Was the French revolution a relic of the Original POD being in 1760s instead of 1720s?
Because I dont think a French revolution is inevitable with a 1720s POD.
Was it added to make Nationalism and Social Equality toxic to make way for Societism?
Seems,like the tl is going on a path like otlwith only difference in details.
Eg:
War of Austrian Succession: Otl.
7 yrs war: Otl.
French Revolution: Otl.
War of Three Emperors: Taiping Rebellion.
Popular Wars: Revolutions of 1848.
Great Jihad: Sepoy Mutiny
Great American War: American Civil War.
German and Italian Unification: Otl.
Pandoric War:WW1
20s Plague: Spanish Flu
Romulan Italy: Fascist Italy.
Howmuch of is it deliberate and how much of it is due to French revolution spreading liberal ideas and nationalism,like otl.
Would you add the French Revolution if began it now?
Was the French revolution a relic of the Original POD being in 1760s instead of 1720s?
Because I dont think a French revolution is inevitable with a 1720s POD.
Was it added to make Nationalism and Social Equality toxic to make way for Societism?
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Beatriz
Kicked
History rhymes I guess?
A narrative reason is to provide analogues of familiar reference points
The COmbine: USSR
The eternal State: China
Danubia: Yugoslavia
Yapon: North Korea
The Sunrise War: WW2 + Korean War
A timeline where no *ACW occurs and slavery in the ENA lasts until 1900 possibly with Indian indentured labor as some maps have suggested would be kinda alien if not dystopian
A narrative reason is to provide analogues of familiar reference points
The COmbine: USSR
The eternal State: China
Danubia: Yugoslavia
Yapon: North Korea
The Sunrise War: WW2 + Korean War
A timeline where no *ACW occurs and slavery in the ENA lasts until 1900 possibly with Indian indentured labor as some maps have suggested would be kinda alien if not dystopian
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The specific circumstances of American Revolution make French one more likely as withiut Ftench support, US is unlikely to exist and if France supports, it gets into a lot of debt and French revolution happens.
Thats why its rare unless its specifically a France aviods revolution tl.
We are so back. Only(!) been reading this for 12 years since, when it started, I was 10. Now I have a full time job and student loan debt! Hopefully education is more accessible in the ENA!
War...war never stays the same.”
– George Spencer-Churchill the Younger, commenting on the outcome of the Sunrise War, 1958
Noticed this in the update about the beginning of the Great American War. Does this mean the Sunrise War only lasts a year?
– George Spencer-Churchill the Younger, commenting on the outcome of the Sunrise War, 1958
Noticed this in the update about the beginning of the Great American War. Does this mean the Sunrise War only lasts a year?
I tried making my own map of the LTTW world as of the beginning of volume 10, i probably got some stuff wrong but i hope this is mostly accurate.
While also transferring it to the nextgen otl worlda. This timeline has been going on for so long i almost struggle to believe it.
So if memory serves me right we’re about to witness the third, and last, great wave of Societism/Combine expansion. The aftermath of which sees the “unliberarted” zones pretty much unite under the ASN with some going Mccarthyism in trying to resist Black Flag encroachment.
And again if what I’ve read in previous volumes was correct Japan, a portion of Central Europe, a bit of India, Egypt/Turkey/Arabian Pennisula, Mesopotamia, Palestine are about to be colored Black by the end of this volume.
Personally I don’t see this war taking any less than four years to finish considering how much upheaval is about to arrive. Plus I think only 3 Nuclear Bombs will be used and all against Russia by the Societists
And again if what I’ve read in previous volumes was correct Japan, a portion of Central Europe, a bit of India, Egypt/Turkey/Arabian Pennisula, Mesopotamia, Palestine are about to be colored Black by the end of this volume.
Personally I don’t see this war taking any less than four years to finish considering how much upheaval is about to arrive. Plus I think only 3 Nuclear Bombs will be used and all against Russia by the Societists