Look to the West Volume VII: The Eye Against the Prism

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Thande, Sep 2, 2019.

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  1. 1SaBy Enlightened Radical Alt-Censtrist

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    Don't you also forget that Qing nationalism is valid and should be supported for the greater good of diversity(tm).
     
  2. Dathi THorfinnsson Daði Þorfinnsson

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    Oops.
    'Go' is the Yapontsi term, and unlikely to be used iTTL. Weíqí is the standard Mandarin form in Pinyin spelling.

    What would be fun would be if the term was borrowed through French, giving Oueiji, or Ouiji (in a later simplification)
     
  3. LostInNewDelhi Anarcho-Shaivist

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    Wonder how this works for the Empire of North America-- would pizza be classed as foreign?

    Mongol children went through a pretty horrible campaign of forced assimilation in the dying Beiqing, and of course the Manchus did too; at the very least I hope the Feng will take their foot off the gas on that program.
     
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  4. Generalissimo Maximus Timelines are just excuses to make flags

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    I'd say the likelihood is pretty big, as giving the previously repressed cultures regional autonomy is going to do a lot to make them loyal subjects (not to mention the eventual advantage of conveying a diversitarian image).
     
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  5. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    Probably some kind of loyalty scheme, which gives you discounts because you ENJOY DIVERSITY(TM) like how many (but not all, naturally) good Diversitarians should.

    Also, I believe this is the first mention of Poland in the modern era...which makes me wonder what happened to it in the meantime.

    Those sneaky societists and their secret weather-controlling machine, hidden in their underwater volcano base. :biggrin:

    Remember, all violent actions conducted in re-enactments of Heritage Points of Controversy must be restricted to the appropriate level.
     
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  6. HIM Dogson Rationally Royalist

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    except for the second part
     
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  7. 1SaBy Enlightened Radical Alt-Censtrist

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    It also occurred to me that it might simply be an ad for a fast food/restaurant chain which has such cards.

    Well, it only mentions partially Polish food. Not the country of Poland. For all we know, Poland might as well be a part of Societist Danubia or the Russian Confederation.
     
  8. Thande I could not fail to disagree with you less Donor

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    Thanks for the comments everyone.

    That is the reference I was going for, yes :D
    Thanks for pointing that out, I will change it. (Although I don't use accent marks anyway for Chinese even in normal chapters to make it slightly less impenetrable for the western reader, and Motext here can't display accent marks as well--which means I have to remember to go back and take it out of words like 'corvée').
    Tempted to make that an album title in TTL...
    Not directly answering this question, but bear in mind that pizza was considered a foreign innovation (and a passing fad!) in OTL America in the 1950s. I have a bit from MAD Magazine at the time I can post if you're interested.

    Meanwhile in the UK, pizza was considered foreign well into the 1970s. I have a British cookbook from 1973 which treats curry as 'OK the real Indian sort is different to the takeaway ones you've had, but everyone knows what it is' but pizza as 'THIS WEIRD ITALIAN FLAT PIE THING' and even refers to the toppings as 'the filling' to avoid confusing people.
     
  9. Kaiphranos Hydraulic Despot Donor

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    I've always wondered how well sortition would work for selecting a governing body, though I guess the 108 Mandators are more of a review board than a legislature (at least for now).

    Hmm, are these intended to be separate types... or are these Italian-style sausages made by Poles living in Germany?
     
  10. Michael Canaris What does this field do?

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    I could even see them as bog-standard salami made in the same factory, but given a few "national" touchings for authenticity (think of how Greeks, Turks, Syrians and Lebanese IOTL argue with each other over who invented the baklava.)
     
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  11. John Spangler A man of wealth and taste

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    China is in for some very interesting times, indeed!
     
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  12. Daibhid C Wizzard

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    Funnily enough, I read it as the exact opposite: as a good Diversitarian, you should like your culture's food, and not think all foods are basically the same like a Societist would. Therefore, while it's fine to eat foreign food occasionally, it's strictly rationed.

    Diversitarianism really is a mass of contradictory impulses, isn't it?
     
  13. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    What are you, a Russian?

    I mean, you are right to think so, even if I think you are wrong...:winkytongue:

    :biggrin:

    Although, it might refer to the whole "diversity quota" thing the owner of that house the THANDE institute broke into and nicked all those books from mentioned.
     
  14. Dathi THorfinnsson Daði Þorfinnsson

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    Yeah. Are the foreign food points things you spend (as in rationed out) or things you are required to consume?
     
  15. xsampa Well-Known Member

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    Ottoman cuisine included?
     
  16. xsampa Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't Qanon find its perfect wnemyin societism
     
  17. Suvareshkin Just another boba-sipping social democrat

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    wat
     
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  18. Thande I could not fail to disagree with you less Donor

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    Thanks for the further comments.

    If you're interested, to celebrate 100 likes on my Facebook author page (please join them, you know you want to) I've attempted to count up all the words of fiction I've written since I started in 1998. It's an exclusive to the author page to reward the people who follow it, so go and check it out!
     
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    Was "The Day the Music Lived" a Buddy Holly althist perchance?
     
  20. xsampa Well-Known Member

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    Qanon opposes "secret cabals of globalists" and the Societists are secretive globalists so they could be useful idiots for Diversitarians. "Go attack the Zonal Rej's mansion"
     
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