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Will there be a Underground Railroad movement in Texas during the ACW?

Not really since it would be near impossible to smuggle a slave up north as the United States would just return them and in Texas you'd have to go through hundreds of miles of deserts, Indian territory, dangerous wilderness, etc. There is opposition to slavery in Texas but the movement isn't that big. After I post Chapter 50 I'll do a series of chapters meant to show the culture of Texas from 1836-1861, one of those topics will be dedicated to slavery. So just wait a few weeks and all of your questions will be answered. Chapter 45 will be posted tomorrow and it's going to be about the end of the Oregon War.
 
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Chapter 45 Treaty of Libson
Chapter 45 Treaty of Lisbon

"Vive le Quebec! Vive le Quebec!"- chants of Quebecois upon confirmation of end of the war 1847
"We've fought a two year war and have lost thousands of lives for this land. It would be a disgrace to the memory of the fallen if we doe not start the admission of Oregon today."- President Daniel Webster 1852
"For the third time we had lost against our colonial children. Another chunk of the Empire was taken and Britain once again looked weak on the world stage. Did we ever try to address the problems that caused the war's loss or maybe run the Empire better? No. Those damn nobles just could not accept the fact that our military was weaker than America's or that their ignorance of the people had caused the Corn Riots. They would learn in due time though. I had personally seen to it."- Lord Protector Oliver Mosley 1938

After the British were pushed back from the coasts of the United States, there was really little else that would change on the battlefield for the rest of the war. The Navies continued their cat and mouse game as the United States would continue to perform raids on certain British cities and colonies while Britain would try and pick off America's remaining Navy. Due to the reduced size of ships available, all plans by the Department of War to commence amphibious operations such as an invasion of Jamaica were promptly scratched. The only place on the entire continent were fighting still took place was on the peninsula of Nova Scotia as the American/Quebecois armies tried to push further against the British stationed there. This happened with little change in territory as while many battles were fought, the British had evacuated all of their remaining North American forces there and they had received minor amounts of reinforcements every month. Making a virtual stalemate that the United States only kept up in order to wear down Britain. Across the Union there were multiple fears of a second invasion as many thought that the British would once again try and protect their claim by sending more of their men west, this time with even more troops. The American Army constantly trained, civilians retreated from the coast, and volunteers renewed their contracts in order to face the British again. It turns out that they would not need to do so as while the war continued for the rest of the year it would not reach American soil once again. Britain would by the beginning of summer become involved in the First War of German Unification, sending hundreds and thousands of men and much of their Royal Navy to Central Europe and the Balkans. With this any ideas of invading America again were put to the sideline as the British fought to retain their ally and keep the Russian behemoth from expanding, much to the frustrations of the Royal War department. The Oregon War would've continued after the end of the German conflict but there is one factor that the British never expected to fight, it's own people.

At first the British public was mostly for the American War as its people sought to take revenge against America who had humiliated them so many times in the past. There was some opposition to the conflict, most notably among the factor workers and the Irish, but the ruling class had chosen war and like sheep to a flock most jumped on with them. As Canada fell the British still kept their war fervor on. Why? Because in their minds it was the backwards Canadians who had lost the fight, surely the might of the British regulars would finish the job. So as 1846 ended the British public were still behind the war, a factor that may have helped with initial stability by providing a common enemy to focus on when the ideas of the '46 Revolutions spread to London. As Summer came the British still had their hopes high even when they would be forced to go into another war against Russia as in their minds, Washington would fall by the end of the year and Canada would be liberated. All of these hopes fell with the capture of the Quebec expedition and the conclusion of the Battle of Washington on July 4 which had knocked the British off the two most important theaters of the war. The situation got worse as the British were pushed out of the continent entirely with the failure of the gulf campaign in October. Were it not for the victories against the Russians it is likely that a revolution might have happened then and there. But Britain would still face unrest come December with the nationwide famine and the Corn Riots.

In 1815 the Importation Act, or the Corn Laws as they were often called, were passed by the British Parliment as a series of tariffs designed to keep the Industrial British economy growing against any industrial growth that took place in Europe. One of the most important clauses of the Act was that extremely high tariffs were put around any foreign agricultural products, mostly corn, to support British farmers and keep the island independent. Its negative effects were already shown in the first five years after the eruption of Mount Tambora caused a massive famine within Britain and for several riots to take place. Still Parliment held firm on their decision and kept to the tariff. For the next 25 years the food input of Britain would remain stable as all British and Irish crops were immediately shipped to the markets of London and other cities on the island. A problem soon arose though as the effects of the Second Revolution caused a massive population boom which required some amount of importing from Europe, and most prominently America. In early 1846 the Irish Potato Famine began which caused the people of Ireland to starve and for the Potato to be near eliminated from the British diet. Still Parliment kept the laws in place as it was only the Irish who were being affected and they could contain any unrest with local forces. Then the Oregon War commenced and Britain lost its highest source of wheat, causing some starvation to set about in the British population. What made matters worse was that Britain could no longer import from the continent as it was virtually filled with wars and revolutionary unrest which made any exportation of crops from Europe near impossible. As months went by the situation got worse as American ships plundered British vessels with food from Asia and South America, Russia came into war with Britain which prevented any grain import from Ukraine, the Irish started getting rebellious, and India had gone under bad harvests. Virtually the only nations that Britain still had a somewhat stable trading relationship with was Texas, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, and Portugal. The worse effects were kept form the public however as it could still rely on domestic crops to feed its people. Then the famine of 1847 came. Winter came early to Britain as the temperatures reached a record low of around 8 degrees Fahrenheit in October, when the harvests were collected by the farmers they had only produced half of the previous years output. With the onset of these conditions Britain virtually starved within weeks as there were little new sources of food for the common people while the nobles and the upper class took a great deal of the rest by maintaining their high lifestyle diet. What ultimately caused the situation to go down the toilet was when Queen Victoria hosted a Advent Banquet on December 1st. While the banquet was meant as a charity event to help the starving people of Britain through donations, the event involved near a ton of food to be put on display for the around 5,000 guests. Word had spread from servants at Buckingham Palace of the event and soon thousands of people swarmed the palace on the night of the event to demand food. The guards refused to budge and went the protestors got angsty, the used brute force to keep them away from the palace. Ultimately the people were not able to gain access to the palace because of the royal guard, but when they were pushed back they instead decided to take their anger on the Upper/Middle class of London while also targeting bakeries, butcher shops, and farmer's market. By the time the banquet was supposed to start the whole city of London was in chaos as fires spread from accident, stores were being robbed by looters, rioters took to the streets and targeted the Anglican Church and public officials such as the police and the city government. When word of the riots spread other cities such as Norfolk, Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool, etc., started to commence riots of their own. By the end of the week the unrest had even spread to Ireland. In order to quell these riots Queen Victoria had to recall troops some troops from Europe and the totality of Canada, causing the American Army to march into Nova Scotia successfully on January 11th. The total unrest was officially declared to be over on March 2nd with the repeal of the Corn Laws, but by then the United Kingdom had lost millions of Pounds in property damage, over 7,000 people killed from the riots with another 10,000 who had been wounded, and a still hungry British population to feed. While the German War was gaining momentum as Germany was preparing to counterattack and drive the Russians all the way back their borders, it was clear that the war with America was lost by now. An official armistice was declared on January 29th and a peace conference arranged in Lisbon on March 15th.

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The Corn Riots of 1847 in London (Right) An Irish family during the Potato Famine (Left)

When the Americans and Quebecois walked into the meeting of Lisbon they knew that they were in a position of strength by occupying all of North America. Secretary of State Francis Granger was sent to represent both parties along with a handful of American diplomats. Their objectives were to not walk away without the Oregon territory in entirety or an independent Quebec. They were also to push for as many concessions that they could possibly strangle out of the British as Harrison knew that while America's trade had faltered during the war, Britain was on the more serious issue of collapse with the need for food imports, allowing for any tactics of delay to be highly effective. It took two weeks for any sort of agreement to be reached as the British were apprehensive about giving in totally to the American's demands and there was no way for the United States to enforce a total conquest of Canada. Finally compromises were reached and the Treaty was signed on April 1st. The following terms were this:
  1. The entirety of the Oregon Territory is to be given to the United States.
  2. Quebec is to be given independence as the Republic of Quebec and its sovereignty shall be recognized by the United Kingdom. Quebec will include the lands of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia with a $3 Million dollar debt to be paid by 1856.
  3. The Untied Kingdom acknowledges that it was responsible for the start of the war with the border incident.
  4. All sailors shall be returned to their respective nations within 120 days of the ratification of the treaty.
  5. The Great Lakes is to be demilitarized by both sides.
  6. The Untied States shall annex the Bahamas with a $1 Million dollar price.
  7. A free trade agreement concerning agriculture shall be in effect between both nations for the next ten years.
The treaty was then later sent to both Washington and London within the next few weeks. Come May peace once again came to the two nations.

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North America after the Oregon War in 1848

The end of the Oregon War produced great effects for both nations. For Britain it was a serious embarrassment and blunder that they had lost to the United States again. This caused some military reforms to pass within the next two decades that would be further supplemented by the outcome of the Crimea War. Britain also took steps away from protectionism to establish a free trade economy to keep the British people afloat. After the Corn Riots stopped and peace one again appeared for both nations, millions of British and Irish people would scramble to immigrate to the United States and Texas which would cause the great Immigration Boom of the 1850's. Finally with most of Canada lost, Britain would mostly abandon direct control of the western hemisphere and instead try to dominate by proxy, while opening up new missions and expeditions to colonize Africa or Asia. In Quebec the people cheered all throughout the nation as they were now free from the British forever and could practice their religion and language in peace. A diaspora of English citizens appeared where most Englishmen of Quebec and the Maritime would either migrate west to the remaining Canadian territories or to Britain. For the rest of the 19th century, Quebec would form a national identity of Quasi-French culture and would within years become a stable regional supplier of agriculture, lumber, fish, and shipbuilding. Quebec would also become the United States first permanent ally and they both maintain a close relationship to this day. In the United States the whole country erupted in celebration as they had once more beaten the British and had claimed what was rightfully theirs while liberating oppressed brethren across the border. In the next decade permanent settlement and development of the Oregon territory would begin with Oregon becoming a state in 1852 and the creation of America's pacific trade to begin in the 1850's, the area would later receive an immense amount of migration with the gold rushes of the 1860's and the Alaskan gold rush of 1897. President William Henry Harrison became a national hero and was the most popular president at the time who had an equal amount of love comparable to George Washington, with most American historians today ranking him in the Top 10 of American Presidents. If he wanted to, Harrison could've run for a third term and won a landslide, but the 75 year old man was tired of politics and didn't want to ruin his legacy with any negative actions that might've come in the future, so instead he decided to throw his support behind Daniel Webster for the next election. Webster won in a large electoral landslide but had come close in the popular vote against Democrat John Tyler. For the next decade the United States would come to focus on industrialization, immigration, increasing trade, and settlement of the rest of the west. The war would also play a huge impact in the American Civil War as many of the generals on both sides had gained massive experience in the conflict, while the United States implemented several military reforms for a larger and more professional army. The more immediate concern of the war that would cause the Civil War to come about was the one question that all Americans had been conveniently trying to keep from their minds, slavery.

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I'm fairly certain that the northern parts of Quebec were not considered to be part of Quebec. Even in OTL, today, most of that area would rather be Canadian than Quebecois in the event of secession. I'm fairly sure there was a comment on it in a secession thread I started in chat a while back; something along the lines of the northern portions of Quebec would have their own referendum to remain with Canada if Quebec went independent.

Back in the mid 19th Century, though, Quebec had no claim to that territory, and would really only be the area around the St Lawrence.
 
I'm honestly surprised that Francis Granger didn't try and ask for more like Upper Canada or Ruperts Land in the final treaty

Also I can't wait to see a cultural update on Quebec in the future.^^
 
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I'm fairly certain that the northern parts of Quebec were not considered to be part of Quebec. Even in OTL, today, most of that area would rather be Canadian than Quebecois in the event of secession. I'm fairly sure there was a comment on it in a secession thread I started in chat a while back; something along the lines of the northern portions of Quebec would have their own referendum to remain with Canada if Quebec went independent.

Back in the mid 19th Century, though, Quebec had no claim to that territory, and would really only be the area around the St Lawrence.

I'm honestly surprised that Francis Granger didn't try and ask for more like Upper Canada or Ruperts Land in the final treaty

Also I can't wait to see a cultural update on Quebec in the future.^^

Emperor-of-New-Zealand: I did think of these historical borders when I did the map and the reason I gave Quebec it's OTL borders is because of the fact that it essentially is meant by the U.S to screw the United Kingdom. If Quebec's borders stuck to like what you said then all Britain has to do is build a road from the eastern end of the shield to Ontario or build a port in the Northern part of the shield. All Francis asked for was for the border between Ontario and Quebec to continue to the Hudson Bay. That way any British ships have to sail around Quebec and Newfoundland into the Hudson Bay for trade or transport, really hampering Canada's trade or defense in wartime. Due to this the United States will benefit the most as all trade will most likely be directed through the Erie Canal. Also it's important to know that some French (not very many) have settled the area whereas almost no British settlers have at all.

MagicalPhantom345: The reason that Granger only asked for Oregon was because of the fact that Oregon was the whole casus belli and they already won hundreds of miles of land because the United States confirmed its annexation of OTL Oregon territory. I didn't state this in the peace conference but the United Kingdom took a stance where if the United States took any more of Canada outside of Oregon then they would have to pay millions of dollars. Harrison wasn't willing to do this as the United States economy is in a bit of a recession right now due to the trade deficit from the Royal Navy's actions in the war. Also Oregon was the goal all along in order to build a pacific connection. Rupert's Land isn't really seen as that good since it's just grassland or forests that will freeze for much of the year in the eyes of the Americans. Finally Granger didn't press further because doing so would violate the Webster-Ashburton treaty, leading to multiple land conflicts in the future and the potential for the United Kingdom to also retaliate in a future war. The United Kingdom is going to regain much of its strength in the next few years so this is Granger's method of securing good concessions for the Americans while building a hopefully lasting peace.

I might do a culture post for Quebec in the future. Let's just say that TTL modern Quebec is a fusion between American and Metropolitan French culture.
 
Well, I'm for one interested in seeing how Quebec being the US's permanent ally effects the future and US thinking of Catholics, different languages, and more.
 
Will the British keep a larger military for future conflicts? Will they invest more in agriculture or food storage for lean time? Would Texas and Latin America use food exports to pay down British loans?
 
And peace has come to the United States, Quebec and Canada (kind of, indian wars and what not), but sadly for them the former a Civil War is coming, and sadly for all a war greater than that will follow. What remains to be seen is if that last war sees action in North America. Anywho, a great update. Now on the brass tacs.
I'm honestly surprised that Francis Granger didn't try and ask for more like Upper Canada or Ruperts Land in the final treaty.
It surprises me too, but Chris made his reasons clear and I can see why Harrison went only for Oregon (and I'm assuming clearing up our other border disputes in favor of the US). All and all, the US and Quebec didn't get a bad deal. Quebec has a strong position, the US has Oregon and the remains of Canada is hard pressed to be a threat no matter what Britain tries to do with it. My big question is what comes after the Great War as I'm going to hazard a guess the US and Britain will be squaring off for round four sometime in the 20th century. Time will tell I suppose, but in the more short term and when the US economy is humming again in a few years Alaska would look pretty darn good for boxing in the Yukon, and I'm sure Russia could use the money after the German war and Crimea. *Evil laugh*

Onto other issues, the Corn Riots and their aftermath do not bode well for the future relations between the British government and its citizens. Short term there will just be anger, but with Britain seeming unwilling to change and the fact you keep hinting Britain is going to get the short end of the stick in the future it is a small wonder Mosley comes to power. His line here...
I had personally seen to it
...strikes me as rather ominous. Once again time will tell what you have planned, but I'm expecting nothing good in this case.

Moving down the list, I expect the now US Bahamas is going to play an interesting roll in the slave state free state controversy that will now dominate the US. Oregon will be admited in 1852 and Iowa may already be in the Union, but the south is boxed in without Texas and aside from the Bahamas the only choice they have for a slave state under US control and under 36°30′ is Sequoyah. Fun times are ahead, and I do not envy President Webster.

Well, I'm for one interested in seeing how Quebec being the US's permanent ally effects the future and US thinking of Catholics, different languages, and more.
One can hope for the better.
 
Well, I'm for one interested in seeing how Quebec being the US's permanent ally effects the future and US thinking of Catholics, different languages, and more.

Will the British keep a larger military for future conflicts? Will they invest more in agriculture or food storage for lean time? Would Texas and Latin America use food exports to pay down British loans?

And peace has come to the United States, Quebec and Canada (kind of, indian wars and what not), but sadly for them the former a Civil War is coming, and sadly for all a war greater than that will follow. What remains to be seen is if that last war sees action in North America. Anywho, a great update. Now on the brass tacs.

It surprises me too, but Chris made his reasons clear and I can see why Harrison went only for Oregon (and I'm assuming clearing up our other border disputes in favor of the US). All and all, the US and Quebec didn't get a bad deal. Quebec has a strong position, the US has Oregon and the remains of Canada is hard pressed to be a threat no matter what Britain tries to do with it. My big question is what comes after the Great War as I'm going to hazard a guess the US and Britain will be squaring off for round four sometime in the 20th century. Time will tell I suppose, but in the more short term and when the US economy is humming again in a few years Alaska would look pretty darn good for boxing in the Yukon, and I'm sure Russia could use the money after the German war and Crimea. *Evil laugh*

Onto other issues, the Corn Riots and their aftermath do not bode well for the future relations between the British government and its citizens. Short term there will just be anger, but with Britain seeming unwilling to change and the fact you keep hinting Britain is going to get the short end of the stick in the future it is a small wonder Mosley comes to power. His line here...

...strikes me as rather ominous. Once again time will tell what you have planned, but I'm expecting nothing good in this case.

Moving down the list, I expect the now US Bahamas is going to play an interesting roll in the slave state free state controversy that will now dominate the US. Oregon will be admited in 1852 and Iowa may already be in the Union, but the south is boxed in without Texas and aside from the Bahamas the only choice they have for a slave state under US control and under 36°30′ is Sequoyah. Fun times are ahead, and I do not envy President Webster.


One can hope for the better.

Magni Imitator: The United States isn't going to change all of its prejudices in a few years regarding other languages, religions, or ethnicities. However, having a friendly ally to the north that is of a completely different culture will help some Americans to be more open-minded and become exposed to different cultures of the world. It might even lead to an earlier Catholic President ITTL.

Traveller76: Once again I'll go over the expansion and reforms of the British military when we reach the Crimean war. Britain is going to invest more in agriculture but their approach will be in free trade and making breadbaskets of their colonies. A solution, but not the best if they would engage in a huge naval war in the future.

Pieman97405: Yeah I thought I made it pretty clear in that while the U.S did not pursue any territory in Rupert's Land, they did get everything they wanted in Oregon and got to give Quebec Independence, therefore giving them a nice regional ally and effectively neutering any chance of Canada becoming a threat. The United States could've gotten more land from Canada but they had to spend their diplomatic points on giving Quebec freedom and large swaths of territory. You are right about your predictions, as for how it happens and the effects of it is something that will be revealed.

Yeah Britain is going to stick to their social ways even if the Liberals gain control of Parliment. I'm not trying to promote any anti-British rhetoric but it is the position that I feel is going to happen to Britain with this timeline as the social stratification was quite extensive OTL and the only reason it didn't blow up was because of Britain's winning streak and large colonial conquests. Here though, it's going to be tested.

I know it seems like I may be hinting at Mosley too much but he's my favorite character that I created for the 20th century and I can't wait to implement him in the timeline. Let's just say that unlike Hitler, he had a very fucked up childhood and has many legitimate reasons for wanting to take control in Britain and implementing his policies. Good news is that Jews won't be a scapegoat though. As for the nobility, it's not going to be pretty. I would write a chapter that previews him since I just watched Downfall, but that would include so many spoilers for the entire future. He will be introduced during The Great War.

The Bahamas will be a topic brought up in the great slave debate along with the possibility of Sequoyah. It remains to be seen how much that will affect the south or how successful it will be, but the Civil War is going to happen anyways. Yeah Webster's going to understand why Harrison followed the two term rule.

In other news I might do a Lee/Grant narrative of the end of the Oregon War in the future and Chapters 46 and 47 will come on the weekend.
 
I'm not trying to promote any anti-British rhetoric
I never saw it as anti-British rhetoric, just hints that Britain gets the shaft in this world. This is all fiction* so I tend to assume none of what we put in our timelines reflect the views of the author unless they make clear this is what they think is best. Heck if we took the other course and assumed it a whole lot of us would be in hot water for having the Confederacy win and thrive, America becoming evil somehow, or letting the Gang of Four come to power in China among other things.

I know it seems like I may be hinting at Mosley too much but he's my favorite character that I created for the 20th century and I can't wait to implement him in the timeline. Let's just say that unlike Hitler, he had a very fucked up childhood and has many legitimate reasons for wanting to take control in Britain and implementing his policies. Good news is that Jews won't be a scapegoat though. As for the nobility, it's not going to be pretty. I would write a chapter that previews him since I just watched Downfall, but that would include so many spoilers for the entire future. He will be introduced during The Great War.
I can't speak for the others but I enjoy reading his little blurbs and hints about him, and if you like including them all the better for me.

*Or we are tapping into the multiverse and bringing a world into ours through the medium of print, but even then it is still fiction for us.
 
Are you going to try to publish this story? It'd be a shame if you didn't. Especially once you clean it up and stuff all the things needed for selling it. Because I can tell you right now quite a bit of Texans would like it. After all, if I remember right didn't you go and just get a bit of it made into like your own personal book or something that you shows us? Or am I remembering the wiring story...?
 
Are you going to try to publish this story? It'd be a shame if you didn't. Especially once you clean it up and stuff all the things needed for selling it. Because I can tell you right now quite a bit of Texans would like it. After all, if I remember right didn't you go and just get a bit of it made into like your own personal book or something that you shows us? Or am I remembering the wiring story...?

I am hoping to start publishing alternate history novels one day, the problem is though that I don't have any connections in order to get a publisher and I don't have any stories written down. Next summer I'll try and make a complete novel and I was thinking my first one would be a WWI German Victory, "Kaiserreich: Hail to Thee in Victor's Crown". I also have other ideas such as President Douglas MacArthur, President Wendell Willikie, successful Crusader timeline, Napoleon Wins, etc. I might try and publish Lone Star Republic in the future although I would need to get in touch with Calbear for advice since he's done it before. Also the last bit about the personal book was from the thread "The Stars at Night", which actually inspired me to make Lone Star Republic since it never updated and I wasn't a fan with the direction for independent Texas that happened there..
 
I am hoping to start publishing alternate history novels one day, the problem is though that I don't have any connections in order to get a publisher and I don't have any stories written down. Next summer I'll try and make a complete novel and I was thinking my first one would be a WWI German Victory, "Kaiserreich: Hail to Thee in Victor's Crown". I also have other ideas such as President Douglas MacArthur, President Wendell Willikie, successful Crusader timeline, Napoleon Wins, etc. I might try and publish Lone Star Republic in the future although I would need to get in touch with Calbear for advice since he's done it before. Also the last bit about the personal book was from the thread "The Stars at Night", which actually inspired me to make Lone Star Republic since it never updated and I wasn't a fan with the direction for independent Texas that happened there..

Oh, nice to know. And I can tell you I'd read those alt. History books. So you've at least got a confirmed purchase. Pretty sure plenty of others would to.
 
I am hoping to start publishing alternate history novels one day, the problem is though that I don't have any connections in order to get a publisher and I don't have any stories written down. Next summer I'll try and make a complete novel and I was thinking my first one would be a WWI German Victory, "Kaiserreich: Hail to Thee in Victor's Crown". I also have other ideas such as President Douglas MacArthur, President Wendell Willikie, successful Crusader timeline, Napoleon Wins, etc. I might try and publish Lone Star Republic in the future although I would need to get in touch with Calbear for advice since he's done it before. Also the last bit about the personal book was from the thread "The Stars at Night", which actually inspired me to make Lone Star Republic since it never updated and I wasn't a fan with the direction for independent Texas that happened there..

I would't go for the 'Central Power Victory' and Napoleonic timelines since those scenarios have been done to death at this point in time. Although that timeline for Wendell Wilikie seems very intriguing since I don't know anything about the guy except he stood for fighting against the Axis Powers
 
I would't go for the 'Central Power Victory' and Napoleonic timelines since those scenarios have been done to death at this point in time. Although that timeline for Wendell Wilikie seems very intriguing since I don't know anything about the guy except he stood for fighting against the Axis Powers
Don't discourage him. If his Texas timeline is anything to go off of he may have an interesting spin to put on them.
 
Oh, nice to know. And I can tell you I'd read those alt. History books. So you've at least got a confirmed purchase. Pretty sure plenty of others would to.

I would't go for the 'Central Power Victory' and Napoleonic timelines since those scenarios have been done to death at this point in time. Although that timeline for Wendell Wilikie seems very intriguing since I don't know anything about the guy except he stood for fighting against the Axis Powers

I'm not being discouraging, I am just saying that WWI is to easy to work with

Magni Imitator: Thanks for the support. I can't focus on publishing books now though since I'm going to have to focus on college. In the meantime though I'll do my research on the process and start writing drafts for my other novels.

MagicaPhantom345: The Wendell Willikie one is one I'm doing after reading a Paradox AAR titled "The Presidents." It's a really interesting read where Wendell becomes President an in some ways becomes more successful than Roosevelt was. In terms of policy Wendell was similar to Roosevelt in foreign policy but was extremely more hawkish against the axis and was conservative domestically but was pragmatic enough to realize we still needed some of the New Deal such as social security. In terms of the WWI that I would do it's just one of my suggestions and I would mostly go about it in a comprohensive manner where equal attention is given to all fronts and there would be pretty big divergences in the fighting. Basically smart Germany leads to screwed Entente which leads to WWII with Communists.

Chapter 46 will come out later today. Chapter 47 will come out on Monday. After that I will have to postpone posts to Friday because of Exams this week. Thanks for all the likes an comments and I look forward to future input. Long live the Republic!
 
The Wendell Willikie one is one I'm doing after reading a Paradox AAR titled "The Presidents." It's a really interesting read where Wendell becomes President an in some ways becomes more successful than Roosevelt was. In terms of policy Wendell was similar to Roosevelt in foreign policy but was extremely more hawkish against the axis and was conservative domestically but was pragmatic enough to realize we still needed some of the New Deal such as social security.

Although he and his running mate died within the same year, so who would come to fill their shoes after the Second World War and start of the Cold war?
 
leads to WWII with Communists.
You haven't been reading my own notes on a Central Powers win scenario, have you? =P

Although he and his running mate died within the same year, so who would come to fill their shoes after the Second World War and start of the Cold war?
Well if his death isn't butterflied away it would probably be Rayburn in the short term. Long term is where Chris would have us.
 
Although he and his running mate died within the same year, so who would come to fill their shoes after the Second World War and start of the Cold war?

You haven't been reading my own notes on a Central Powers win scenario, have you? =P


Well if his death isn't butterflied away it would probably be Rayburn in the short term. Long term is where Chris would have us.

MagicalPhantom345: As a little preview for what I wanted to be planned, Wendell would survive two full terms (though he would die in the 50's) and his VIce President with the death of McNary would be Dewey.

Pieman97405: What notes? I haven't seen them.


Chapter 46 will be posted in a little bit. Chapter 47 may or may not be posted tomorrow but if it's not then don't expect another post till Friday on this or Gihren's Glory.

 
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