Living in an Imperial World

Thucydides

Well, my first TL. Wow. Anyway there really is no one POD in this but oh well. The TL will sometimes be told like a story from the viewpoint of charectars that I will think of sometime... But anyway this is a TL that starts in the era of New Imperialism. But everything is not what it seems... There is an independent Alaska, and American Empire and a socialist revolution in France. This my friends is a work of Edwardian Excelence.

August 1st 1859: Bismarck declares a Prussian-ruled German Empire after the Frankfurt riots in which hundreds of people rose up calling for a unified German Empire. Not to be confused with the attempted revolt of 1848

January 1861: William Seward elected president of the United States.
April 12th 1861: Sumter Crisis, the secession of southern states nearly avoided although southern guerillas keep fighting until late 1863.

1875: The Austro-Hungarian empire, with its military in dissary and on the brink of war with Italy begs the German Empire for protection. The Germans exapt underthe terms that Austria becomes a vassal.

1891: Spanish American war starts. U.S. forces invade Cuba.
September 9th 1893: Spanish American hostilites halt. America gains the Philipenes and Cuba among others. President Roosevelt declares an American Empire.

March 23rd 1894: Quebec war starts when Quebec attempts to succed from Canada and France intervenes on Quebec's side.

December 31st 1894: The French surrender and their economy falls into ruin.

May 1st 1899: May day riots in all major French cities start a bloody civil war Socialists vs. Royalists, colonies divided.
 

Thucydides

Ahh and now we happen upon the year 1900. I will be posting a TL that goes day by day to add suspense.

The World In 1900
Btw the Purple guys are the royalists and the blue are the socialists.


1900
January 1st: While dilevering a speech in Richmond an assassination attempt is stamped out by emperor Theodore when he clubs the assassin to death with his cane. A riot in Manilla occurs when people try to board an airship to get off the islands. Many want to get away from the Philippines due to heightened guerilla activity.

January 3rd: British volunteers fighting for the royalists in French colonies devistate a column of socialist soldiers. Americans begin gunboat diplomacy to push deeper into China.

January 7th: The Italian battleship Justinian explodes off of the international Shanghai harbor. The Italians suspect the Germans even though several eyewitnesses, including a French gunboat captain, deny that the boat that pulled up alongside the ship was German.

January 8th: Italians supposedly discover the wreck of a German submarine under the Justinian even though the sub is of American manufacture and the Germans have had no Subs in the area for months. Russian troops in Japan execute several supposed revolutionaries in order to suppress a growing rebellion.
 

dreadnought jenkins

Checkmate113 said:
March 23rd 1894: Quebec war starts when Quebec attempts to succed from Canada and France intervenes on Quebec's side.

December 31st 1894: The French surrender and their economy falls into ruin.

May 1st 1899: May day riots in all major French cities start a bloody civil war Socialists vs. Royalists, colonies divided.
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Why would Quebec start a war:confused:. Your about a century early for quebec seperatism and the quiet revolution won't happen until after world war II, and that was brought by the Grande Noirceur.

The Catholic church was deeply involved in Quebec politics, and the church was very pro-Britain.

On another note, the Quebecois of the pre-world war II were the PRO Canada Canadians. The English Canadians were more pro-empire, while Quebec sought the expansion of CANADIAN interests. It was the Quebec who wanted a Canadian navy and international recognition for Canada in foreign affairs.

You'd sooner get a revolt among English Canadians then the French. This of course puts the entire Quebec revolt and the French (who wanted the English on their side to contain Germany, and with Austro-Hungary as a vassal (WHAT!!!????:mad:) their looking all the meaner) into the realm of ASB.

Your going to need a wee bit of work in my opinion, at least in Canadian politics.
 

dreadnought jenkins

Checkmate113 said:
Ahh and now we happen upon the year 1900. I will be posting a TL that goes day by day to add suspense.

The World In 1900
Btw the Purple guys are the royalists and the blue are the socialists.


1900
January 1st: While dilevering a speech in Richmond an assassination attempt is stamped out by emperor Theodore when he clubs the assassin to death with his cane. A riot in Manilla occurs when people try to board an airship to get off the islands. Many want to get away from the Philippines due to heightened guerilla activity.

January 3rd: British volunteers fighting for the royalists in French colonies devistate a column of socialist soldiers. Americans begin gunboat diplomacy to push deeper into China.

January 7th: The Italian battleship Justinian explodes off of the international Shanghai harbor. The Italians suspect the Germans even though several eyewitnesses, including a French gunboat captain, deny that the boat that pulled up alongside the ship was German.

January 8th: Italians supposedly discover the wreck of a German submarine under the Justinian even though the sub is of American manufacture and the Germans have had no Subs in the area for months. Russian troops in Japan execute several supposed revolutionaries in order to suppress a growing rebellion.
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WAIT. WHAT????!!!!! Emperor Theodore of the United States!!!????

How did that happen. Next, why would Italy pick a fight with a super Germany? Finally, how advanced is your Submarine technology that they'd be sending them to Shanghai?

How is this all hapening. Your seemingly having jumps in logic and time. For example, the last we hear of the US of A, they avoid the civil war and no mention is given to the issue of slavery and the next mention they have an EMPEROR?

This needs a bit more explaining and some more fleshing out...
 

Thucydides

That is sort of what I was going for. Something vague but mildly understandable. But I will give explanation.

Theodore Roosevelt declared an American Empire.

Italy was reshaped into sort of a Mediterranean Prussia, so now it's like a new Roman Empire.

The thing about submarines. I forgot to mention that the Americans started an invasion of China and took most of the east coast. BUt the left Shanghai an international zone. So the Americans launched it there. No matter how much you screwed with OTL you couldn't get to that level of submarine technology by 1900.

Early in the 1880s Lincoln(who was Seward's vice and then ran again on his own) had all the slaves deported back to Africa because the south was threatening either that or Civil War.

And about Canada, there are always going to be independents in Quebec. When a few rose up the French decided to give them a boost because they would once again have a foothold on North America.

Also, as soon as Japan opened up Russia invaded before they could modernize.

Alaska is an independent country called the Republic of Yukon

I will work on fleshing it out. Although I'll try to post a map to get things moving.
 
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Grey Wolf

Grey Wolf

Theodore Roosevelt was born in 1858 and even in OTL 1901 was the youngest president. Ten years earlier, I'm not sure he meets the age qualification in the constitution - I'll check that out

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
Grey Wolf

Grey Wolf

Article Two of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications to be eligible for election as President. A Presidential candidate must:

be a natural-born citizen of the United States;
be at least thirty-five years old;
have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.
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Roosevelt would have been only 31 in 1891, and presuming the election was before this date, he'd not even have been 30 in 1888

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 

Ofaloaf

Grey Wolf said:
Roosevelt would have been only 31 in 1891, and presuming the election was before this date, he'd not even have been 30 in 1888

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
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Obviously he's just that good!


This timeline does need some more thinking, though. Things such as becoming an empire, food shortages, or civil wars don't just come out of the blue. There's almost always undercurrents and patterns that lead up to these things, and I don't see much of those at all in this TL so far.

Also, vassalage isn't really much of a 19th-century thing. One country becoming a puppet state or satellite of another is a more Victorian thing, but even then it wouldn't be a formal "Nation X, on this date, is now officially a puppet state of Nation Y."
 

bm79

"Is this an Alien Space Bat which I see before me, the muzzle toward my hand? Come, let me clutch thee!"
 

Thucydides

Okay. The whole point is that there are several PODs in this. The whole point is to be vague. Just roll with it now. The background was not really supposed to make sense. Obviously some big things change that are not OTL but you jsut need to follow and make your own assumptions because the TL takes place right in 1900 not before. If you have specific questions then ask me about them. Most of time I try to go for historic accuracy but now I am kind of not. I am truley sorry about that but you have to just imagine some of the things that happen. Okay?

Here is the world in 1900

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David S Poepoe

Banned
There could have been a whole slew of PODs in your ATL, but some really needed to make sense. Theodore Roosevelt could no more declare an American Empire with him as its emperor as he could make it rain.
 
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