Little Giants

Since this thread has gotten started, I've been wondering what impact an early introduction of Thulian crops could have on Tibet.

The Tibetan plateau is pretty large, and is really high up. High up enough that I suspect there are large areas where the crops known OTL just won't grow due to Alpine conditions approaching Arctic, but crops that do grow in the Arctic might grow there, opening up huge areas to cultivation with associated increase both in population and per capita economic levels.

Such a greater Tibet would still not be a giant nation, since even with its arable area increased by Thulian crops it would still be harsh and sparse land, but it is a natural fortress; with a more substantial population to man it they might not only hold would-be conquerors at bay but send out expeditionary forces to play kingmaking roles in China, the steppe countries, and India.

Since this is only happening in a timeline with the Thulian crops, another possible partner of theirs diplomatically would be some Thulian regime in the Arctic.
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Netherlands
Jordan (don't know how but it would be fun)
Israel
Wales
Venice
Czech Republic
Iroquois

Etruscans ... see sig for how to do it ...
 
I don't know if this has been done or not but how about the New World being discovered and somehow colonized by the Papal States? Just a random thought. joho:)
 
I don't know if this has been done or not but how about the New World being discovered and somehow colonized by the Papal States? Just a random thought. joho:)

you'd need something like the "Papal Caliphate" of Poul Anderson's Amazement of the World [1] to prevent the monarchies from grabbing the bulk of it, but Papal colonies in the new world have shown up in a couple maps, at least.

Bruce


[1] Time Patrol series
 
Finland
Romania
Estonia
Lithuania
Hawaii
The Maori, (if they count)
And... A Republic of Molossia wank. ;)
 
Haiti definitely. And if Sierra Leone, then also Liberia -- maybe one that can integrate the interior tribes earlier, and hold its own better against colonial land-grabs and debt peonage.

Hey, combine Haiti and Sierra Leone-Liberia wanks. Throw in a better-off Ethiopia and we can have a veritable Justice League of Negritude in the works. :D

Bruce
 
Finland
Romania
Estonia
Lithuania
Hawaii
The Maori, (if they count)
And... A Republic of Molossia wank. ;)

I've seen a Maori-wank - Beyond the Gate of Worlds , the collection put together as a "sequel" to Silverberg's "The Gate of Worlds" includes a couple stories in which the Maori are described as a major, Pacific-dominating power.

Bruce
 
Hey, combine Haiti and Sierra Leone-Liberia wanks. Throw in a better-off Ethiopia and we can have a veritable Justice League of Negritude in the works. :D

Sierra Leone and Liberia wanks are zero-sum to an extent, because the Liberian territories that Britain grabbed off in the 19th century became part of Sierra Leone. Unless, of course, they join together as part of the Great Freedmen's Federation of Liberia, Sierra Leone, Gabon and Porto Novo.

Haiti, of course, would pick up Guadeloupe and Martinique... and dare we hope for New Orleans?
 
Sierra Leone and Liberia wanks are zero-sum to an extent, because the Liberian territories that Britain grabbed off in the 19th century became part of Sierra Leone. Unless, of course, they join together as part of the Great Freedmen's Federation of Liberia, Sierra Leone, Gabon and Porto Novo.

Haiti, of course, would pick up Guadeloupe and Martinique... and dare we hope for New Orleans?

Hmm -some sort of free black lowlands state, arising from a Confederate collapse even messier than OTL? (Pre-Louisiana purchase seems difficult - could they pick it up as allies of the British in the war of *1812? Could lead to complications).

Bruce
 
Monaco-wank. Liechtenstein doesn't count; it was just that it was the only territory said house had after losing their Bohemian lands.
 
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