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Hendryk

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Oh, and Hendryk, I wouldn't be so quick to try and use our dear friend here as the proof of why homeschooling is wrong. He's admitted to personally having been public-schooled and that he came up with his beliefs after his education, not that they were instilled into him from the start.
Well, at least it's evidence that you can receive a public school education and still believe in the wildest conspiracy theories. I'm less sure that kids who are homeschooled to believe said wildest conspiracy theories will be able to go the other way back towards sanity--at the very least it will require considerable psychological adjustment.
 
That is what I am saying.If they attested anything else it would have been suppressed. Big big money at work in this story. Big big bucks to be made by installing the prepared scripts into the Jap psyche. Millions of pamphlets dropped and all form of psy ops were controlling that place.Would they have published the truth and ruin the fun and profit?
Except that there really isn't any profit in coverups. Coverups are ungodly costly, and the money goes to government employees, not the MIC. See above. Especially since the censorship apparatus was largely dissasembled after the ocupation ended.

Were you AT any of them?
No. But then, you weren't there either.
I sense this is another double-standard moment where you can claim something that you weren't there for and have no supporting sources, but I can't even though I do have supporting sources.

Do you know the difference between 20 tons of TNT and a so-called nuclear explosion?
Yes, actually, I do. The wonders of engineering programing simulations.
Established means prepared for public consumption and the nuclear plants are dump loads bleeding off surplus energy not creating it. The big utils know the public would freak paying the prices they are paying while massive surpluses of energy must be bled out of the system.
This reminds me of the guy railing about cold fusion in physics the other day.

Surprisingly, he failed his tests on thermodynamics.

They had seismologists when the Us said they exploded an atom bomb on Hiroshima. They had the means to OUT them but they are all connected at the hip, get it. They were all going to profit from that hoax and the upcoming moonlanding hoaxes. Big partners in crime those two.
Ah, not the Moonlanding hoax? Can't you be more creative than that? Or at least come up with a new argument.


People started asking questions and we somehow drifed into this area. I have not changed the hypothetical scenario that got this thread rolling. Some posters dismissed the legitimacy of the scenario by saying it was not probable when all I needed was for my hypothesis to be possible.
No, you've changed your story. Multiple times now.

It happens.
 
Thousands of tons of M-69 firebomblets dropped on highly inflamable targets like Hiroshima and Nagasaki can raise the temperatures into the thousands of degrees F. This leads to a massive firestorm of pure fire. The winds are moderate but the temperatures are incinerator hot. See the damage photos for Tokyo March 9-10 1945. Both Tokyo, Nagasaki and Hiroshima survivors reported a thick oily black rain falling after the raids.Why should I be ashamed that they lied. I don't see that story with your eyes, eh.How will anyone believe a hoax if the chronology is all messed up? Really, you sound like you are entry level to these questions.

The only thing visible were the official and approved reports coming out of Japan. Aren't you reading these posts?I am not a racist because jews are not a race you boltbrain. Judaism is a mindset. Otherwise how do you explain Black, White or Asiatic jews in your racial formulas. I think you should go right back to the blackboard Einstein.

Perhaps you should explain to my friends why the jews consider them human cattle and have but hatred and contempt for them because they were born outside the loop of tribal conformity. Jews hate non-jews just for being born a non-jew. How can you make friends with or trust that?

Okay, what is this a picture of then?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Joe_one.jpg

And as far as I know, the only thing one of my Jewish friends hates(he is an Orthodox Jew) is how strict his religion can get. He constantly talks of Secularizing once he leaves his parents house. And who are your pray-tell 'friends'? Neo-Nazis?
 
Well, at least it's evidence that you can receive a public school education and still believe in the wildest conspiracy theories. I'm less sure that kids who are homeschooled to believe said wildest conspiracy theories will be able to go the other way back towards sanity--at the very least it will require considerable psychological adjustment.
Fair enough, but be forewarned that if you slip and try and use 1111 as proof of why home shool should be banned, I'll point out that he was public school education.
 

Eleven11

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You still have failed to offer a viable motive for this vast cover up beyond *Well they would wouldn't they? nod nod wink wink.*


Suffice to say its not convincing. A conventional thousand bomber attack would have sufficed just as well to secure investment in conventional weapons.
The motive was money, the means were the instruments they controlled in the collectives, media, tv, radio, etc. The opportunity was offered in the dumbed down minds of those abandonned to and conditioned in public schools run by the tyrants. Who said anything about THOUSANDS of B-29? I said I believed that Hiroshima was bombed with 164 B-29 using about 1000 tons of M-69 firebomblets. Not Thousands.Did you know why they did not attack the two cities at the same time? Because they had to go back and refuel and reload the conventional ordinance for the second run. That is why there is 3 days between Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Sure they had enough bombers and bombs to hit both at the same time but I think the bomber limitations were caused by loyalty factors they could not ignore. They were telling men to go bomb a city with M-69 and later this would be described as an atomic attack. I'm sure the hoaxsters had to be careful about not implicating too many people that would become loose ends.
 
If they attested anything else it would have been suppressed. Big big money at work in this story. Big big bucks to be made by installing the prepared scripts into the Jap psyche. Millions of pamphlets dropped and all form of psy ops were controlling that place.Would they have published the truth and ruin the fun and profit?

Yes, that explains the radiation sickness and cancer. Or maybe the Jews put plutonium in the water. Oy vey!

Firebombs don't do this...
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Or this...

Hiroshima_Shadow.jpg
 

Eleven11

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Except that there really isn't any profit in coverups. Coverups are ungodly costly, and the money goes to government employees, not the MIC. See above. Especially since the censorship apparatus was largely dissasembled after the ocupation ended.
No profit in fake atom bombs, lol, you must be kidding. Another return on the investment is the fact they can use the hoax to start their wars and justify mass bloodshed. Billions of dollars for these imaginary weapons. Where were you during the arms race, were you born.
No. But then, you weren't there either.
The official record is there. I did not write it. The official record is my best evidence that the atom bomb is a shameless hoax.
I sense this is another double-standard moment where you can claim something that you weren't there for and have no supporting sources, but I can't even though I do have supporting sources.
Have you ever heard of the concept of rational induction? It's where you synthesize the information aquired for expected logical patterns. Obviously you have the attention span of a ferret on a double cappucino so you can't grasp complex patterns much less evaluate them and act upon the wisdom they impart. You have probably knit yourself into a social trap where this kind of truth acceptance is not well received. That's your problem. Other readers are making better choices.
This reminds me of the guy railing about cold fusion in physics the other day.
How so?
Surprisingly, he failed his tests on thermodynamics.
I did not know that we were discussing the academic shortcomings of your classmates.
Ah, not the Moonlanding hoax?
Ah, not another believer?
Can't you be more creative than that? Or at least come up with a new argument.
I do that all the time. It's old shoe. My readers expect that from me.

No, you've changed your story. Multiple times now.


It happens.
I did not change my story I just accomodated those pigheads that could not see the Japanese paying White US personnel to spy for them. Instead, to accomodate them, I said we could say the German spies got the intel and shared it with their japanes allies as part of their triangular defence pacts. But since most here are more busy looking for witches they forget it was accomodation that did not change the original premise one bit. It is a myth that I changed my story, I brought it down a few notches for the blowhards, lol.
 
Have you ever heard of the concept of rational induction? It's where you synthesize the information aquired for expected logical patterns. Obviously you have the attention span of a ferret on a double cappucino so you can't grasp complex patterns much less evaluate them and act upon the wisdom they impart. You have probably knit yourself into a social trap where this kind of truth acceptance is not well received. That's your problem. Other readers are making better choices.

Mr. Pot, there's a Mr. Kettle on the line for you. Shall I put him on? Says it has something to do with colors...
 

Eleven11

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Yes, that explains the radiation sickness and cancer. Or maybe the Jews put plutonium in the water. Oy vey!

Firebombs don't do this...
Petrol is loaded with carcinogens in case you missed it earlier. People got sick and some died along with the cattle that are the oily grass. Are you now going to say that petrol is a safe and natural body lotion? The US had high powered x-ray machines in their medical installations they were using on people. I have read a report where a pregnant woman that survived the bombing was irradiated at these installations so badly she miscarried. How much you want to bet that file was classed as a bomb-related tragedy?
 
The Germans hardly got any spies in the USA, and surely not into anything as high-tech as the Manhattan project. The Nazi's wheren't as clever as people think they are. Also, how would they transmit their messages? They couldn't have send it by airmail, and any long-distance radio would've surely been picked up. Unless, ofcourse, they're using Jew-Gold-Powered Nazi Cell Phones, but I'd doubt those even existed.

Also, petrol doesn't cause cancer by just being covered by it, IIRc.
 

Eleven11

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The Germans hardly got any spies in the USA, and surely not into anything as high-tech as the Manhattan project.
Why are you using the word HARDLY if you are certain? Either you believe it or you don't. There's always someone in a position of power ready to take a bribe or spy for someone or a nation. Just because you are a Japanese Intelligence denier does not mean the Japs did not have a sophisticated web of spies and informants.
The Nazi's wheren't as clever as people think they are.
That is why I said the Great Patents Heist was a hoax so the tribe could steal any patent at leasure from it's non-affiliated inventor and claim the Germans invented it first. A big time scam again. The NAZIS regime was an icon for something far more familiar and sinister.
Also, how would they transmit their messages?
They are very creative. Most are never detected.
They couldn't have send it by airmail, and any long-distance radio would've surely been picked up.
Why do you use the word SURELY if you are certain. You attest and doubt in the same breath.
Unless, ofcourse, they're using Jew-Gold-Powered Nazi Cell Phones, but I'd doubt those even existed.
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Irrelevant.
 
Petrol is loaded with carcinogens in case you missed it earlier. People got sick and some died along with the cattle that are the oily grass. Are you now going to say that petrol is a safe and natural body lotion?
Please explain why everyone who lived through the firebombings of Tokyo and Dresden did not get cancer. This is what the results of the Tokyo firebombing looked like:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...kushu_1945-3.jpg/800px-Tokyo_kushu_1945-3.jpg

Those black things? They are human corpses. Why didn't the 'Hiroshima firebombing' leave tons of charred bodies everywhere? They vanished, almost like they were.... vaporized or something. Or maybe the Jews stole them.
The US had high powered x-ray machines in their medical installations they were using on people. I have read a report where a pregnant woman that survived the bombing was irradiated at these installations so badly she miscarried. How much you want to bet that file was classed as a bomb-related tragedy?

Do you have any evidence this report exists? Can you share it with us? People got sick immediately after the bomb, before US troops even occupied the country.
 
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Eleven11

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Please explain why everyone who lived through the firebombings of Tokyo and Dresden did not get cancer. This is what the results of the Tokyo firebombing looked like:
The cancers and effects are SHORT-TERM with fuel related cancers and fuel-induced miscarriage or birth deformities. My wife was working in the petrol fueling jets when she got pregnant and they moved her away from there fast. Our son was born with a transposition of the great arteries. Won't say it was the fuel but she was there some time while unknowingly pregnant. The illnessess reported as atomic related in later years were toxins being laundered in atom bomb smoke and mirrors. Lots of ways people could get sick back then from the conditions related to the loss of their usual place of residence. People were made homeless and malnutrition illness was everywhere and being called atomic.
Those black things? They are human corpses. Why didn't the 'Hiroshima firebombing' leave tons of charred bodies everywhere?
The firestorm of a conventional M-69 attack will raise temperatures TO CREMATORY LEVELS and beyond. The bodies you show in the picture appear to have been stacked there by people that removed them from a shelter perhaps. That would be why they are not incinerated.
They vanished, almost like they were.... vaporized or something. Or maybe the Jews stole them.
Incineration works that way.
Do you have any evidence this report exists?
I have a copy somewhere.
Can you share it with us?
Sure.
People got sick immediately after the bomb, before US troops even occupied the country.
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Of course. That is when the fuel toxins are the worst. The long term is not related to those dates but other illness of other sources made to look like radiation sickness. I am sure prognostic fraud was rampant and encouraged by the occupation forces.
 
Why are you using the word HARDLY if you are certain? Either you believe it or you don't.

First of all, I request you change your attitude, as I did nothing to deserve the style of your response. I do not disagree with your person, but with your arguments. At least, I didn't untill now.

Secondly, hardly is used to enter some nuance into it all, as the Nazi's did had some spies, they just didn't infiltrate top secret military organizations. All things are relative, and the world isn't as black and white as you make it out to be.
 
The cancers and effects are SHORT-TERM with fuel related cancers and fuel-induced miscarriage or birth deformities.

Um.... no. Radiation increases your chances of having cancer over a lifetime. And that is what happened to Hiroshima survivors. Also, you conveniently glossed over Tokyo and Dresden. Care to explain why people there didn't get cancers? Or in Kobe or Coventry or any OTHER place that was firebombed? Dresden killed more people than Nagasaki.
 
The long term is not related to those dates but other illness of other sources made to look like radiation sickness. I am sure prognostic fraud was rampant and encouraged by the occupation forces.

Which is why the Hibakusha continued to die of cancers after Japan regained sovereignty.

Okay.

E: Gah, Ian pre-empted me!
 

bard32

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Imagine the Enola Gay reporting back to base that the bomb failed to explode.The Americans want their bomb back but the Japanese are infuriated and have seized the device and hidden it in the mountains. Japan, a former ally of Germany, recruit former NAZIS scientists to reverse-engineer and reassemble the bomb. The US government has decided not to say a word to the public about the failed attempt and loss of the device because the project was secret anyways. The Japanese end the war without suffering another single loss, the American naval fleets and assets in the Pacific returned home and the war was over. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were never bombed.
Where would Japan get the German scientists? The United States and the
Soviet Union got the lion's share and there's no way they'll give up their most
prized assets.
 
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