Since the Anjous have a extreme bad luck in siring heirs in the late 14th century is it possible for a daughter of Louis of Hungary to marry Jogaila and Casimir III bears a son who will rule Poland and how will this union will be ruled?
I think Kunigunde of Poland could be married to Louis of Hungary in order to transfer Red Ruthenia to Hungary along with a treaty, I think it is possible for a eldest daughter of Louis to marry Jogaila of Lithuania and like in OTL he does not have sons and Jogaila becomes Catholic, the Jagellions only legitemized their rule dynastically after Casimir IV married Elisabeth of Austria.Polish-Hungarian threaty said, that had Casimir III had a son, Hungary would have had a right to buy Red Ruthenia for a 100 000 florens. Problem is it was a big quote and Hungary would have had problems with paying it. Not to mention the fact that Poland would have not been be so eager to sell it, treaty or not. THAT might be a good reason for a Hungarian-Lithuanian alliance against Poland, only I'm not sure Hungary would have been so interested in fighting for it. Louis of Hungary did incorporate Red Ruthenia into Hungary IOTL, but in 1387 Jadwiga returned it to Poland with, IIRC, almost no Hungarian opposition at all. Only at the time Hungary would have had to deal with Poland AND Lithuania. With Lithuania on their side Hungarians might have been willing to try their luck.
However, would Lithuania have been interested in Hungarian crown? Jogaila had a reason to feel threatened by the Teutonic Order. Could he have counted on Hungarian help against them? I doubt it. Poland was much more natural ally against the Order, so I think Jogaila would have been more eager to make an alliance with Poland than with Hungary. OTOH a crown of quite prosperous kingdom would have been tempting to him. Only somehow I have my doubts about Hungarians giving their throne to a pagan barbarian from the north. An ally, to retake Red Ruthenia, yes. A king? I have my doubts. Hungarians had no interests whatsoever in fighting the Order, and accepting Jogaila as their king might have drawn them into Lithuanian-Teutonic conflict.
I agree and I wrote about it before, but ITTL Casimir III has a son, so Jogaila can not become king of Poland. The question is, would Hungarian-Lithuanian union have been possible? I doubt so, mostly because IMHO Hungary would have not been interested.
What about Galicia? It was under Hungarian control, IOTL Poland regained this control smoothly, but with Lithuania on its side. What if Lithuania is with Hungary (not happening, I agree), or neutral, or wants it for itself?
What about Galicia? It was under Hungarian control, IOTL Poland regained this control smoothly, but with Lithuania on its side. What if Lithuania is with Hungary (not happening, I agree), or neutral, or wants it for itself?
I think Lithuanians can still marry to the Hungarian Angevins to be recognized as a Christian State so that the Teutonic Order stops bothering them and ally with them against Russia and Lithuania and Hungary become allies.
Originally posted by ctesiphon
I wrote earlier about Galicia, only I called it Red Ruthenia.
I'm pretty sure Poland would not attack Hungarian-Lithuanian alliance. Since Casimir III has a son (I call him John for TTL) it is I think safe to assume that John continues his father's policy to reunite Corona Regni Poloniae (The Crown of the Kingdom of Poland - all lands that used to belong to Poland), especially Silesia. In such case John will not antagonize Hungary but most probably accepts the payment (100 000 florens, as it had been established in 1350) and uses the money to pay for his war against Bohemia. His chances are good, I believe.
Other scenario is Hungary decides thay can/will not pay, but they take Red Ruthenia by force, with Lithuania as ally. I doubt it would happen, since Hungary had excellent relations with Poland and no reason to make them worse. Hungary and Poland had common enemies (Lithuanians, Tatars and Bohemians) so why trample an old and trusted friend (Poland) in a hurry to gain a new, unknown one (Lithuania).
If Lithuania tries to take Red Ruthenia by itself, Poland will fight, possibly with Hungarian support. Since Lithuanians have to keep an eye on the Teutonic Order, antagonizing Poles might not be a good idea.
Originally posted by kasumigenx
The christianization of Lithuania was a big problem for the Teutonic Order. Suddenly they become useless - they were supposed to fight pagans and there were no pagans around. Theoretically they should decide they did their job in this part of the world and start looking for some new pagans to fight. Of course the Order had no intention of leaving its more or less honestly conquered lands, so they keep claiming that the baptism of Lithuania was a hoax and Lithuanians are still pagans. They did it IOTL, they would do it ITTL. The baptism of Lithuania does not protect it from the Order.
And while Lithuania itself might be interested in such an alliance, I doubt the Hungarians would be. It would anatagonize Poland and might force Hungary to fight the Order - a war Hungary had no business to fight.
Why not have a Pommeranian Duchy and Lithuania be on personal union in order for them to encircle the Teutonic Knights
Originally posted by kasumigenx
Which Pomeranian duchy? IIRC all Pomeranian duchies at the time had rulers from the house of Griffin; besides, Pomeranian duchies were rather small - hard to see any of them as a strong ally. Poland (or even Hungary) was OTOH much bigger and stronger.